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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Cardiac posted:

I used to be in Stockholm like 1-2 times a year until like 5 years ago and I can’t recall it being this bad.

I live here. It's always this bad, but sometimes the bad is different. Really cold winters break femurs, the subways and commuter trains. Heavy snow mostly breaks the roads. Warm winters causes death by leaves to anything that uses rails and death by drowning of idiots who think that they can use the "frozen" Mälaren as a shortcut everywhere.

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TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

Zudgemud posted:

Could be something related to how bad salting can be for the environment, I think that was a reason for it being stopped here several years ago.

Also, if you are visiting Stockholm for the reason I think you are, you can see our posters there (they are not very cool).
excuse me, but road salt is chemical terrorism and a crime against humanity, see http://www.absolutvetande.se/vagsaltningens-beklagliga-konsekvenser/5027/

fredrik wersäll* knew but covered it up

quote:

Från: Ansvarsfull-Kompetens <ansvarsfull.kompetens@gmail.com>
Datum: 29 november 2018 10:32:42 CET
Till: jimmie.akesson@riksdagen.se, registrator@msb.se, fragamarcus@tv4.se, hogsta.domstolen.adminskrivelser@dom.se, hogsta.domstolen@dom.se, frida.rylander@aklagare.se, vti@vti.se, vadret@tv4.se, ulrika.ihrfelt@dom.se, ulf.kristersson@riksdagen.se, trafikverket@trafikverket.se, tove.lifvendahl@svd.se, tomas.tobe@riksdagen.se, tomas.eneroth@regeringskansliet.se, svea.hovratt@dom.se, stockholms.tingsratt@dom.se, stefan.nilsson@barometern.se, stefan.lisinski@dn.se, statsradsberedningen.registrator@regeringskansliet.se, staffan.lind@dom.se, sakine.madon@vlt.se, richard.jomshof@riksdagen.se, richard.appelbom@mittmedia.se, registrator@smhi.se, registrator@naturvardsverket.se, registrator@jk.se, registrator@foi.se, registrator@brottsoffermyndigheten.se, registrator.akcity-stockholm@aklagare.se, petra.lundh@aklagare.se, peter.hultqvist@regeringskansliet.se, per.hermanrud@tv4.se, per.bolund@regeringskansliet.se, paula.bieler@riksdagen.se, oscar.sjostedt@riksdagen.se, olsson@friaadvokater.se, nyhetstips@dn.se, nyhetsmorgon@tv4.se, nyheter@svd.se, motor@metro.se, morgonstudion@svt.se, morgan.johansson@regeringskansliet.se, mikael.oscarsson@riksdagen.se, mattias.karlsson@riksdagen.se, mats.knutson@svt.se, mats.eriksson@aklagare.se, martin.tiden@aklagare.se, martin.kinnunen@riksdagen.se, maria.ludvigsson@svd.se, maria.krafft@trafikverket.se, mari.heidenborg@jk.se, magdalena.andersson@regeringskansliet.se, lotta.groning@expressen.se, lena.erixon@trafikverket.se, landetrunt@svt.se, kompetensforsorjning.kansli@polisen.se, karolina.skog@regeringskansliet.se, kansliet@lagradet.se, kalla.fakta@tv4.se, jurist@motormannen.se, jonas.sjostedt@riksdagen.se, johan.forssell@riksdagen.se, jessica.rosencrantz@riksdagen.se, jerzy.sarnecki@criminology.su.se, jan.bjorklund@riksdagen.se, isabella.lovin@regeringskansliet.se, info@svenerikalhem.se, info@civilrightsdefenders.org, info@ahap.se, hogstaforvaltningsdomstolen@dom.se, hakan.rosenqvist@bt.se, gw@tv4.se, granskning@svt.se, faktakollen@svd.se, f.wersall@gmail.com, emil.kallstrom@riksdagen.se, elisabeth.svantesson@riksdagen.se, elisabeth.marmorstein@svt.se, ebba.busch@riksdagen.se, debatt@metro.se, debatt@dn.se, dan.eliasson@msb.se, christian.vonszalay@dom.se, christian.diesen@juridicum.su.se, christer.granberg@polisen.se, charlotta.lindmark@trafikverket.se, carolin.dahlman@kristianstadsbladet.se, beatrice.ask@riksdagen.se, axel.peterson@dom.se, ardalan.shekarabi@regeringskansliet.se, annie.loof@riksdagen.se, andreas-v.nordstrom@polisen.se, anders.ygeman@riksdagen.se, anders.thornberg@polisen.se, anders.perklev@dom.se, anders.eka@dom.se, allan.widman@riksdagen.se, adam.marttinen@riksdagen.se, 71717@expressen.se

Ämne: Varför ISHALKA?
Vad halkan kallas är betydelselöst! Det är hur halkan skapas som är väsentligt!
SMHI m.fl. svamlar om:
1. Frosthalka
2. Blixthalka
3. Snöhalka
4. Ishalka
Allt detta är trams. Det heter NATURLIG HALKA om den orsakas av naturen, vädret och årstiden.
Vidare har vi SALTHALKA som utgör ONATURLIG HALKA vilken Lena Erixon är vållande till genom kemisk terrorism med vägsalt.
Vi har alltså:
1. NATURLIG halka som vi kan förutse, bedöma och anpassa oss till för att köra säkert.
2. ONATURLIG halka som vi inte kan förutse, bedöma och anpassa oss till.
Praktiskt taget samtliga vägtrafikolyckor i vinterväglag är en konsekvens av saltningen som resulterar i:
– direkt vållande
– indirekt vållande
Lena Erixon, likt Gunnar Malm och Ingemar Skogö, SKA LAGFÖRAS och frihetsberövas på livstid. Skogö, t.ex. avrättade sex oskyldiga busspassagerare i ”Rasbo”. Fredrik Wersäll är medveten om detta, men har MÖRKAT!
Det existerar i Sverige ingen annan aktiv handling som tillnärmelsevis kan jämföras med saltningen när det gäller omfattning av brottsliga och samhällssaboterande konsekvenser.
Den som inte förstår och åtgärdar saknar rätt till månatligt understöd från allmänna medel.
Du, Anders Perklev, har varit försumlig och tidigare i höst rymt till Svea hovrätt. Du har trots mina anvisningar, också via snigelpost och pappersbrev, nonchalerat att föra Skogö till tingsrätten. Skäms Perklev, din skojare! Nu får vi förlita oss på att Petra Lundh är friskare, intelligentare och mer ansvarstagande.

e:

quote:

Bengt Jonasson (@AbsolutVett)
2018-11-29 09:55
Det är inte endast:
1. SMHI som förolämpar oss
2. Fristående meteorologer som förolämpar oss
också
3. Public Service förolämpar oss
med:
sina respektive kränkande DRAVEL och SVAMMEL om HALKA.
Hur i helvete kan man ha mage att ta ut skatt för sånt jävelskap? FY!

Med vänlig hälsning,

Bengt ”LinkedIn” Jonasson

Civilingenjör utan gränser

* I had no idea who the guy was but apparently he's the Marshal of the Realm???

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I... Huh?

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

im Bengt "LinkedIn" Jonasson, civil engineer without borders

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe
I got a friend who works for Volvo. His department used to have "fancy fridays" when they dressed up in suits for work and then went out for drinks afterwards. Now they have a new american boss who has instituted "hawaiian fridays" where people are expected to dress in aloha shirts. So now my friend goes to work on fridays wearing a three-piece suit, tie and a ghastly floral-pattern shirt. It's awesome/terrible.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
The best part about working in sweden is that you can just dismiss your boss entirely if he wants you to do anything that isn't directly work related and there's no risk of being fired like in America

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Zzulu posted:

The best part about working in sweden is that you can just dismiss your boss entirely if he wants you to do anything that isn't directly work related and there's no risk of being fired like in America

Clearly someone has never worked under a non-permanent contract.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

TheFluff posted:

excuse me, but road salt is chemical terrorism and a crime against humanity, see http://www.absolutvetande.se/vagsaltningens-beklagliga-konsekvenser/5027/

fredrik wersäll* knew but covered it up


e:


* I had no idea who the guy was but apparently he's the Marshal of the Realm???
Uh.... I'm pretty sure I can very accurately predict when the roads have been salted.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

Poil posted:

Uh.... I'm pretty sure I can very accurately predict when the roads have been salted.

no but you see there's natural and unnatural slipperiness...

I'm pretty sure if you look up "rättshaverist" in a dictionary this guy's pictured right there. I've never seen anyone choosing this particular hill to die on before, though. :v:

TheFluff fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Feb 6, 2019

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Venstre admits there were "slip ups" (fodfejl) during Iraq.

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

SplitSoul posted:

Venstre admits there were "slip ups" (fodfejl) during Iraq.

Once you reach a certain pay grade or had enough media exposure1, you become immune to legal consequences.

1Lykkehjulet excluded

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Katt posted:

In Ulricehamn they just add more sand on the snow until you got an icecream sandwich of like 4 layers of snow and 3 of sand and the only way to drive anywhere is to drive around the whole town to the top of the hill and then drive down to your destination. Meanwhile the state road going through the town doesn't have a snowflake on it because the municipality has no saying on the salting there.

More salt. All the salt.

And yet a single day doesn't pass by without some sort of R40 disaster.

And hey, saw you guys got a McDonald's, welcome to the big league! :D

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Use salt on sidewalks you cowards. I was bleeding from both palms this morning after slipping on the ice and then slamming my hands into the gravel which does jack all for pedestrians.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Clayton Bigsby posted:

And yet a single day doesn't pass by without some sort of R40 disaster.

And hey, saw you guys got a McDonald's, welcome to the big league! :D

I'm no hill billy. I only work there I would never live there :v:

It might be a good place to retire though.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Ofaloaf posted:

Use salt on sidewalks you cowards. I was bleeding from both palms this morning after slipping on the ice and then slamming my hands into the gravel which does jack all for pedestrians.

Face to bloodshedhands

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits

Ofaloaf posted:

Use salt on sidewalks you cowards. I was bleeding from both palms this morning after slipping on the ice and then slamming my hands into the gravel which does jack all for pedestrians.

Embrace your inner pensioner and get a pair of broddar

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Ah, now it's really winter in Stockholm.



https://twitter.com/anniecroona/status/1093391056505397248

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Feb 7, 2019

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Fader Movitz posted:

Embrace your inner pensioner and get a pair of broddar

We used to have them for free in Gothenburg but now the new M led local government has pulled the support citing costs. This is totally ignoring the enormous cost for any health care associated with old people slipping on ice here. I assume the yearly total cost for the whole broddar program is less than one or two ice broken pensioners becoming hospitalized and getting a tacked on health burden that will increase general care costs, and that total cost will go up, but that cost will come from another budget so the city gives no poo poo.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

The total cost is basically a rounding error in the municipal budget. It is ludicrously cost-effective from a societal perspective.

zokie
Feb 13, 2006

Out of many, Sweden
You are missing the obvious, once someone old has a fall and a major fracture their life expectancy plummets. M just like other conservatives are a death cult

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA

Zudgemud posted:

We used to have them for free in Gothenburg but now the new M led local government has pulled the support citing costs. This is totally ignoring the enormous cost for any health care associated with old people slipping on ice here. I assume the yearly total cost for the whole broddar program is less than one or two ice broken pensioners becoming hospitalized and getting a tacked on health burden that will increase general care costs, and that total cost will go up, but that cost will come from another budget so the city gives no poo poo.

Like you say it’s different budgets so nobody pays attention.

Also aren’t there other reasons behind salting or putting gravel on surfaces? I think someone told me that once the snow and ice is there gravel works better then salt?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Affi posted:

Like you say it’s different budgets so nobody pays attention.

Also aren’t there other reasons behind salting or putting gravel on surfaces? I think someone told me that once the snow and ice is there gravel works better then salt?

As long as it doesn't keep snowing gravel reigns supreme.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Looks like Støjberg is good with e-mail like Abuella, proving she outright lied not only to parliament, but to the Ombudsman himself. He has now reviewed the e-mail acquired by Information and it undermines her entire explanation. She claimed it had nothing to do with her unconstitutional and ECHR-violating instructions to separate asylum seekers without appeal, and therefore wasn't subject to the Ombudsman's request for relevant documents, when in fact it was solely about that and states clearly that there were to be no exceptions to the instructions. Rule of law is dead if this doesn't result in impeachment.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

It is kinda interesting how bad the ice situation is in Stockholm. Especially in comparison to larger cities with more snow.

Also, the mass transit is kinda interesting in that it took me more than one hour to go a rather short distance.
Which was kinda ridiculous considering it was one of the posher areas of Stockholm. Obviously housing prices have little to do with actual transport here. Which I find funny considering I have about one hour to central Copenhagen from home.

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010
The metro has been making GBS threads itself the last few days. Was okay before that tho

The [not so] funny part is that much of it isnt even weather related. Its just gently caress you signalling faults on top of the familiar millions of tons of snow

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

At this point I think it would be quicker to make a list of which parts of swedish society that aren't underfunded than the opposite.

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever
Since HSB sold the hyresrätter I live in the new private owner, a skräcködla, has opted to not use a plough vechicle but rather a bunch of dudes with shovels. And to get them to clean the parking area you have to call them several times and THEY get pissed off.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

von Braun posted:

Since HSB sold the hyresrätter I live in the new private owner, a skräcködla, has opted to not use a plough vechicle but rather a bunch of dudes with shovels. And to get them to clean the parking area you have to call them several times and THEY get pissed off.

If you wanted better service you should have bought the appartment complex yourself. :colbert:

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

SplitSoul posted:

Looks like Støjberg is good with e-mail like Abuella, proving she outright lied not only to parliament, but to the Ombudsman himself. He has now reviewed the e-mail acquired by Information and it undermines her entire explanation. She claimed it had nothing to do with her unconstitutional and ECHR-violating instructions to separate asylum seekers without appeal, and therefore wasn't subject to the Ombudsman's request for relevant documents, when in fact it was solely about that and states clearly that there were to be no exceptions to the instructions. Rule of law is dead if this doesn't result in impeachment.

I think we already settled that when the Liberal government decreed that the grossly illegal invasion of Iraq by the Liberal government should not be investigated and any results of the investigation should be immediately quashed.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Potrzebie posted:

If you wanted better service you should have bought the appartment complex yourself. :colbert:
If you buy a place the sidewalks it's adjacent to will be clean, and the ones the city's in charge off will be a wall of ice and slush.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I think we already settled that when the Liberal government decreed that the grossly illegal invasion of Iraq by the Liberal government should not be investigated and any results of the investigation should be immediately quashed.

I agree, but it's still a lot more complex an issue than straight up lying to and obstructing the Ombudsman.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

von Braun posted:

Since HSB sold the hyresrätter I live in the new private owner, a skräcködla, has opted to not use a plough vechicle but rather a bunch of dudes with shovels. And to get them to clean the parking area you have to call them several times and THEY get pissed off.
Isn't it way more expensive to have several people doing the job one person could do much quicker? Unless of course they just dumped it on the janitors who are already doing the regular "maintenance" and repairs for the area.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Poil posted:

Isn't it way more expensive to have several people doing the job one person could do much quicker? Unless of course they just dumped it on the janitors who are already doing the regular "maintenance" and repairs for the area.

They could possibly be government subsidized workers who drive around in a lovely old truck doing labour jobs for several large property owners.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Or just be people on hire from an app working for like 30kr an hour.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Katt posted:

I'm no hill billy. I only work there I would never live there :v:

It might be a good place to retire though.

Yeah, just don't have kids there since the government's hosed the schools up massively. And brush up on your German for the summers.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Clayton Bigsby posted:

Yeah, just don't have kids there since the government's hosed the schools up massively. And brush up on your German for the summers.

I'd never raise kids there because they wouldn't stand a chance when they had to move to Gothenburg to find work.

Kids in Ulricehamn think Borås is like New York city. Either they get a job in a relatives café, work in elder care or they have to move basically.

Katt fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Feb 9, 2019

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever

Poil posted:

Isn't it way more expensive to have several people doing the job one person could do much quicker? Unless of course they just dumped it on the janitors who are already doing the regular "maintenance" and repairs for the area.

Fastighetsskötaren sent three dudes do shovel everything.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

von Braun posted:

Fastighetsskötaren sent three dudes do shovel everything.
In our building it's just one guy with amazing plowing skills and one of those articulated garden utility engines. He'll have the whole loving in order in less than an hour. When my partner was pregnant he'd throw hilarious amounts of gravel at our door. We tip him well every xmas.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Never seen this comic before, but this one seemed apt.

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Katt
Nov 14, 2017

His Divine Shadow posted:

Never seen this comic before, but this one seemed apt.



Translation:

Before:

The rail is loose!
I'll get my tools!

Now:

The rail is loose!
I'll send an estimate!

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