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Pook Good Mook posted:Not a contract or property lawyer, but won't it be incumbent upon them to prove the contents of a written contract if you ultimately sue them for trespass? I got the agreement. My wife pays this bill, so she signed it back in 2010. It's a one year term with an auto-renew. 30 days notice to terminate and "removal charge may be charged" with no amount for the charge given. It does spell out the equipment fee ($55, not the $85 they told my wife). Later on it references a Schedule of Charges, so I asked for that. lol it has an arbitration agreement with a 30 day opt out. Whole thing is two pages long. Happy to send this to anyone that's interested after I redact it. Just baffles me they don't want to dig it up themselves and bank up removal fees. It does give them the option to make me buy the tank instead of removing it. Look Sir Droids fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 6, 2019 |
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Got a trial today and im hungover as gently caress am I doing it right?
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I mean, "come get it, it's yours, I don't want it" is surrendering it the idea that you have to dig it up yourself to surrender it is insane
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"Customer will be responsible for any removal charges" and "for any necessary excavation and landscaping associated with removal." It's loving dumb. The tank is 25 years old. They don't actually want it. Just do it yourself and charge me some fee, but why are you making me call in a third-party for your old rear end tank you don't actually want?
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Look Sir Droids posted:"Customer will be responsible for any removal charges" and "for any necessary excavation and landscaping associated with removal." because extracting an underground propane tank is a good way to incur some serious environmental liability and they probably rightly think you will lose your poo poo at the cost if they try to charge it to you and they don't want to eat the cost themselves
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evilweasel posted:because extracting an underground propane tank is a good way to incur some serious environmental liability and they probably rightly think you will lose your poo poo at the cost if they try to charge it to you and they don't want to eat the cost themselves They said it's usually $300-400. And they, the propane company, still has to come out there and disconnect it, pick it up out of the hole, and haul it off. Which they don't charge a fee for. Like, just charge me the $300-400 yourself and do it all yourself then.
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algebra testes posted:Got a trial today and im hungover as gently caress am I doing it right? 2/10, wrong order of operations
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Look Sir Droids posted:They said it's usually $300-400. And they, the propane company, still has to come out there and disconnect it, pick it up out of the hole, and haul it off. Which they don't charge a fee for. Like, just charge me the $300-400 yourself and do it all yourself then. You're missing the part about environmental liability and the tendency of any homeowner to scream at them when the removal process damages MAH TREES or a water main or whatever.
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algebra testes posted:Got a trial today and im hungover as gently caress am I doing it right? You got this poo poo! Edit: Nice time to revisit this classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ow98Q841j8 Tokelau All Star fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Neither vic or def turned up adjourned for 2 months. Alas the other trial is going so I don't get to fly home at 1030 instead I have to watch my boss do a trial.
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Vox Nihili posted:This is the lawyer and law student thread.
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SlyFrog posted:Toona Says Relax I appreciated this. But I really want to know how Matlock Vapors got it.
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Selachian posted:Pros and Cons
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What are you going for, didn't you read what the man wrote? Who would loving want to be in here? Is the term actually "criminal lawyer" because that can mean something else.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Is the term actually "criminal lawyer" because that can mean something else. Tell us about it. It isn't funny, but basically Victoria's legal system is about to implode because it turns out a handful of criminal defence lawyers were acting as police informants, for those who've missed the story.
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Woof. Wouldn’t want to have any part of that.
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Whitlam posted:Tell us about it. It isn't funny, but basically Victoria's legal system is about to implode because it turns out a handful of criminal defence lawyers were acting as police informants, for those who've missed the story. Wow that's really really bad. Prison sentences for every lawyer and for the cops and prosecution for aggravated dereliction of duty in using privileged information to obtain convictions but of course lol that'll never happen.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Wow that's really really bad. Prison sentences for every lawyer and for the cops and prosecution for aggravated dereliction of duty in using privileged information to obtain convictions but of course lol that'll never happen. I don't know if it's still true but last I heard the original lawyer at the centre of it fled the country with her kids, refusing witness protection because she said she didn't think they'd be able to keep her safe. Which kind of lol, kind of she's almost definitely right.
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joat mon posted:I appreciated this. But I really want to know how Matlock Vapors got it. dont sass me, granddad, im the one who gets to pick which nursing home you go to Whitlam posted:Tell us about it. It isn't funny, but basically Victoria's legal system is about to implode because it turns out a handful of criminal defence lawyers were acting as police informants, for those who've missed the story.
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https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1093539653230182400?s=19 Professional click zone
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1093539653230182400?s=19 lol this guy wrote an entire fake opposition brief to try to cover up his deadline fuckup
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Possibly more accessible paywall for this thread, the disciplinary opinion is on Westlaw. 2019 WL 436471
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for the D. Voxes and Toonas out there:quote:Per Curiam A three-month suspension for engaging in complex, convoluted fraud. Cool and normal profession My favorite detail is the partner writing a reply brief to a nonexistent response Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:for the D. Voxes and Toonas out there: I mean he's basically committed career seppuku... Soothing Vapors posted:My favorite detail is the partner writing a reply brief to a nonexistent response That is the best part. I wonder if he discussed it with the associate who was like "Hmm, this argument is actually bad. Can you believe this guy? lol"
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oh man i didn't realize that guy had been practicing for twenty loving years i assumed it was some first-year lawyer who had never had a real job completely over their head and panicking
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evilweasel posted:oh man i didn't realize that guy had been practicing for twenty loving years me too lol. I could totally see any first year freaking out and doing that poo poo. a 20 year vet? lol Phil Moscowitz posted:That is the best part. I wonder if he discussed it with the associate who was like "Hmm, this argument is actually bad. Can you believe this guy? lol" the partner should be disbarred for being such a sucker imo
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This is how I know I will never get disbarred.
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I somehow still have access to Westlaw. Neat.
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Toona the Cat posted:I somehow still have access to Westlaw. Neat. Is it through a corporate account? If so stop using it idiot
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gently caress is a westlaw Fake edit: ignore me, I'm at a work outing getting drunk on very expensive hipster beer made from cloudberries and no I'm not kidding.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:That is the best part. I wonder if he discussed it with the associate who was like "Hmm, this argument is actually bad. Can you believe this guy? lol" lmao Also quote:However, under the circumstances of this case, including the mitigating factors stipulated to here, the parties agree that the appropriate discipline to be imposed on respondent is a three-month suspension What mitigating factors? Dude was 20 yrs in. Look Sir Droids fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Whitlam posted:Tell us about it. It isn't funny, but basically Victoria's legal system is about to implode because it turns out a handful of criminal defence lawyers were acting as police informants, for those who've missed the story. Christ, that's awful. WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1093539653230182400?s=19 A good chaser - wait poo poo a twenty year vet? Oh my god I also thought it was a newbie when I first saw the story.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Is it through a corporate account? If so stop using it idiot Academic still.
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Look Sir Droids posted:What mitigating factors? Dude was 20 yrs in. They were stipulated to, OK? That means they're real.
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Dude’s dad had just died. It’s still inexplicable levels of fuckup, but that is a legitimate mitigating factor (even if 3 months is still ridiculously low.)
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Kalman posted:Dude’s dad had just died. It’s still inexplicable levels of fuckup, but that is a legitimate mitigating factor (even if 3 months is still ridiculously low.) the guy's dad died over a year afterwards: may 2018, all of the conduct was in 2017
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evilweasel posted:the guy's dad died over a year afterwards: may 2018, all of the conduct was in 2017 Was he sick? I can see the stress of caring for his dying dad causing him to miss deadlines being a mitigating factor. But yeah, lol 3 months. I mean, his career is over anyway. But still.
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Look Sir Droids posted:Was he sick? I can see the stress of caring for his dying dad causing him to miss deadlines being a mitigating factor. I read that as the diagnosis was during all of this happening but the death was well afterwards. Or maybe 2018 is a typo and it should be 2017, but either way, his dad was alive while he was fabricating opposition briefs.
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there's no amount of dead dad that justifies inventing entirely fictitious briefs and e-mail chainsevilweasel posted:I read that as the diagnosis was during all of this happening but the death was well afterwards. Or maybe 2018 is a typo and it should be 2017, but either way, his dad was alive while he was fabricating opposition briefs. not a typo, I found the obit while looking for this dumb bitch's picture to see exactly how sweaty and rumpled he looks
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evilweasel posted:the guy's dad died over a year afterwards: may 2018, all of the conduct was in 2017 You’re right, I misread - his dad was diagnosed with a terminal illness during the relevant timeframe. That’s even more stressful and distracting! (Don’t confuse that with saying that it’s enough to fully mitigate.)
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