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chaosapiant posted:I haven’t really been keeping up with F76 so I’m curious...lorewise....does it butcher the existing canon or is it harmless self insert story wise? vault tec built the vault and selected only the brightest citizens for the singular goal of controlling and rebuilding the wasteland, which they hope to accomplish by handing you a deck of cards, a handful of wood chips, and a party hat before pushing you out the door directly into chinese death robots
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The White Dragon posted:now you have me thinking of a stylistically cel shaded fallout game that has a 50s Better Living ad aesthetic Congrats, you have put more creativity into Fallout than Bethesda has since they bought the IP!
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chaosapiant posted:I haven’t really been keeping up with F76 so I’m curious...lorewise....does it butcher the existing canon or is it harmless self insert story wise? Supposedly they hosed up and included the brotherhood of steel 50 years before they came out of their bunker for the first time.
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Feb 7, 2019 03:30
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chaosapiant posted:I haven’t really been keeping up with F76 so I’m curious...lorewise....does it butcher the existing canon or is it harmless self insert story wise? It butchers the lore of not only the original games but their own fallout games as well, I usually don't care about lore stuff but it's things that are painfully obvious, the only argument for it existing as it does is laziness since they could reuse more assets.
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Feb 7, 2019 03:34
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Donovan Trip posted:It butchers the lore of not only the original games but their own fallout games as well, I usually don't care about lore stuff but it's things that are painfully obvious, the only argument for it existing as it does is laziness since they could reuse more assets. Even for Bethesda, that’s extremely lame.
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Deadguy2322 posted:Even for Bethesda, that’s extremely lame. And yet, as Bethesda as you can get.
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Xarbala posted:And yet, as Bethesda as you can get. Very true.
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Donovan Trip posted:It butchers the lore of not only the original games but their own fallout games as well, I usually don't care about lore stuff but it's things that are painfully obvious, the only argument for it existing as it does is laziness since they could reuse more assets. That poo poo is so frustrating. No game should be a slave to lore; if you have a great idea and need to rearrange past events to fit a new narrative, that’s ok. But to just be lazy and not give a poo poo about your own game’s world building is frustratingly lazy and dumb. Maybe I’m weird, but they’ve retroactively made it difficult to enjoy the past Fallout games as well because in the back of my mind, the story I’m being told is being increasingly made false.
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chaosapiant posted:I haven’t really been keeping up with F76 so I’m curious...lorewise....does it butcher the existing canon or is it harmless self insert story wise? How do you feel about the Brotherhood of Steel, the Enclave, and Supermutants all having been around Appalachia at the same? Oh, and caps as currency, again? And Deathclaws running around as well?
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chaosapiant posted:That poo poo is so frustrating. No game should be a slave to lore; if you have a great idea and need to rearrange past events to fit a new narrative, that’s ok. But to just be lazy and not give a poo poo about your own game’s world building is frustratingly lazy and dumb. Maybe I’m weird, but they’ve retroactively made it difficult to enjoy the past Fallout games as well because in the back of my mind, the story I’m being told is being increasingly made false. I think it goes beyond laziness. It feels like they are actively hostile towards the lore of past games even their own.
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SwitchbladeKult posted:I think it goes beyond laziness. It feels like they are actively hostile towards the lore of past games even their own. They never really showed Fallout any respect, and this is just what a decade of that disrespect has lead up to. It’s a pretty weird feeling how, suddenly, everyone else in the world finally sees what a bunch of greedy hacks Bethesda have always been, all at the same time.
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Feb 7, 2019 05:14
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SwitchbladeKult posted:I think it goes beyond laziness. It feels like they are actively hostile towards the lore of past games even their own. I think a while back someone posted an interview with the lead writer and he seems like a huge narcissist that would ratfuck an entire franchise just to put his mark on it, yeah.
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Deadguy2322 posted:They never really showed Fallout any respect, and this is just what a decade of that disrespect has lead up to. Fallout 76 broke a lot of the illusions that were holding the company up as the AAA markets golden boy. "Well they're one of the last holdouts for single player, narrative driven experiences"//And then they make an online multiplayer only game with 0 story. "Well at least they make interesting characters" and then they make a game without any NPCs. "The bugs are charming! Modders will fix them anyway" The bugs have reached their absolute gamebreaking peak and people are getting banned for mods. It's not funny anymore. Also they bugged up their own website to Doxx their users. "Well at least they're not as scummy as other devs" Literally Every Business Decision for this game.
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Flytrap posted:Fallout 76 broke a lot of the illusions that were holding the company up as the AAA markets golden boy. I’m still shocked that the gaming media went from awarding Skyrim every Game of the Year award even though it was totally broken on a major platform to the point where it shouldn’t have passed certification, to actually saying that Bethesda makes broken poo poo with zero effort.
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I don't want y'all to get too excited because there's a bit of conjecture required but here's a story about how a company tried to C&D a YouTuber for making a poor review of a game that came out around the time FO76 did and got his address by promising to send him swag, notably bobblehead toys, a custom PS4, and Funko pops. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/9z5mms/i_do_reviews_i_reveiced_a_cease_and_desist_after/ quote:Recently I posted a review about a newly released game, it was very critical on a lot of points in the game but no where was I saying anything that was a lie. For some crazy reason this video received a massive influx of views compared to my normal 8-13k views and received over 1.6M views. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/anjzhv/update_cease_and_desist_letter_after_posting_a/ quote:I finally found an attorney ...
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mormonpartyboat posted:vault tec built the vault and selected only the brightest citizens for the singular goal of controlling and rebuilding the wasteland, which they hope to accomplish by handing you a deck of cards, a handful of wood chips, and a party hat before pushing you out the door directly into chinese death robots I mean, that SOUNDS like Vault Tec, yeah
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Flytrap posted:Fallout 76 broke a lot of the illusions that were holding the company up as the AAA markets golden boy. All of this except they weren't actually banning people who were using mods. But to be fair, Bethesda's handling of this game has been so bad people are willing to believe anything negative about Bethesda that gets posted to Reddit. Fallom posted:I don't want y'all to get too excited because there's a bit of conjecture required but here's a story about how a company tried to C&D a YouTuber for making a poor review of a game that came out around the time FO76 did and got his address by promising to send him swag, notably bobblehead toys, a custom PS4, and Funko pops. You left out the Atom shop price hike.
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When was that?
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:it keeps hackin and whackin and smackin pippin that meat
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chaosapiant posted:I haven’t really been keeping up with F76 so I’m curious...lorewise....does it butcher the existing canon or is it harmless self insert story wise? its fine
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SwitchbladeKult posted:I think it goes beyond laziness. It feels like they are actively hostile towards the lore of past games even their own. They canonically blew up Morrowind because people liked that setting better than the one in Oblivion 
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thats just dunmer getting what they deserve
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Deadguy2322 posted:They never really showed Fallout any respect, and this is just what a decade of that disrespect has lead up to. The upcoming Elder Scrolls is still going to sell gangbusters. Their reputation has taken a hit, though, I feel like their products will be scrutinized more closely and with less goodwill by gamers and the gaming press alike.
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chaosapiant posted:I haven’t really been keeping up with F76 so I’m curious...lorewise....does it butcher the existing canon or is it harmless self insert story wise? Name anything in the fallout universe: turned out it didn't actually have any unique backstory or origin, it was just always around since day one everywhere.
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I was watching the metal gear survive previously recorded and Rich Evans goes into a bit about how there's so few triple AAA developers who care to release a quality non asset flip quick cash grab product and Bethesda was one of them and lmao
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The number #1 asset Bethesda reused has been their janky rear end engine.
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Like even Fallout 76 aside there were 7 years of yearly+ Skyrim repackages
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As long as they don't Fallout 76 up Starfield or ES6, I will probably buy them and play them for many hours, bugs be damned. For the love of god, just don't make them always online or multiplayer. The Morrowind formula still works.
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FO76 is a prototype for things to come. Why do you think they so stubbornly hold on and force changes through? They are loving this IP up so the others don't need to get bogged down in weird experiments and workarounds for the main games. Skyrim 2 and Starfield: Skyrim are still going to be buggy, janky messes as all Bethesda titles are regardless but they'll have gotten the microtransations down at least.
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Yeah, Fallout 4 pretty definitively established Fallout as the experimental area Bethesda uses to test ideas. A voiced protagonist for Elder Scrolls 6? Insane idea! Well let's try it in a Fallout game first, see how it does
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Fallom posted:I don't want y'all to get too excited because there's a bit of conjecture required but here's a story about how a company tried to C&D a YouTuber for making a poor review of a game that came out around the time FO76 did and got his address by promising to send him swag, notably bobblehead toys, a custom PS4, and Funko pops. this is fantastic.
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What's funny is that given the time period and location 76 happens in.... as well as the fact that Vault 76 appears to have been one of those rare control vaults designed to actually do what it loving said it would do, which is reconquer the world after the radiation cleared... it would have been extremely fertile ground for an Enclave faction. As the good guys OR bad guys, really.
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Lmaooooooowned you paid money for this game [/quote] I preordered.
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Bethesda's fallout canon is on par with fallout tactics and its Vault 0, a weapon stores. Control vaults? gently caress You!
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Today's inside the vault: scorch beast attacks to be less annoying; tell us what enemies you like/ hate; well rested will last 50% longer for a limited time; also buy stuff from the atom shop. No mention of the latest fuckup.
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Backhand posted:What's funny is that given the time period and location 76 happens in.... as well as the fact that Vault 76 appears to have been one of those rare control vaults designed to actually do what it loving said it would do, which is reconquer the world after the radiation cleared... it would have been extremely fertile ground for an Enclave faction. As the good guys OR bad guys, really. The Enclave is one of the factions running on automatic.
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The Brotherhood themselves weren't in Appalachia. This was a group of soldiers who listened to Roger Maxson via satellite and took up the Brotherhood ideology, using power armor left over from the massive riots and public disturbances thanks to all the mining and automation going on West-Tek hosed around with FEV and released it into the Huntersville water supply, thus making Super Mutants, Snallygasters, and Grafton Monsters The game explains this, but since it's all in Holotapes and Terminals, nobody cares because they can't sit down and have an NPC lay it all out for you
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Vinylshadow posted:The Brotherhood themselves weren't in Appalachia. This was a group of soldiers who listened to Roger Maxson via satellite and took up the Brotherhood ideology, using power armor left over from the massive riots and public disturbances thanks to all the mining and automation going on The whole Taggerdy, a surviving US Ranger, deciding to help co-found the Brotherhood of Steel with "her good friend" Maxson over the radio was really stupid and clearly just an excuse to shoehorn in the BOS.
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Vinylshadow posted:The Brotherhood themselves weren't in Appalachia. This was a group of soldiers who listened to Roger Maxson via satellite and took up the Brotherhood ideology, using power armor left over from the massive riots and public disturbances thanks to all the mining and automation going on more accurately already had power armor because they were (mostly) US army remnants
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The new Sim Settlements expansion for pip boy 4 (conqueror) lets you kill off the Concord crew including Preston and as expected, it owns. Literally noone is safe as you can pull a new execute move when they are sitting on the ground being all npc like. I felt kinda bad stabbing Grandma 7 times but i had no choice, well i did but gently caress those guys
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