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Thanks everyone. I just have one more question. I’ve pretty much got the reading order for Aaron’s Thor figured out, but do I need to read Original Sin or can it be safely skipped?
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Or skip every Marvel event book that’s not Infinity. I agree with Jordan about Lemire, I will read anything by him. Plutonia and Royal City are really good too. I also liked Rucka’s Wonder Woman but think his first run is better. You may also want to check out Rebirth Detective Comics, Tynion does a great job with the wider Bat family that’s really good to read.
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Dec 29, 2018 14:09
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:Thanks everyone. I just have one more question. I’ve pretty much got the reading order for Aaron’s Thor figured out, but do I need to read Original Sin or can it be safely skipped? That's a tough one. It's not very good (but not terrible, either), and has an event that's very important to Thor, but I'm fairly certain is recapped in the Thor series. You should *probably* read the Original Sin: Thor & Loki mini, though, as it's important to both.
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I liked Orignal Sin, but yeah you absolutely have to read the Thor/Loki mini tie-in.
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Dec 29, 2018 16:11
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The important thing in the main series of Original Sin is literally one panel, it happens immediately after the OS: Thor and Loki mini, so just ask here, the chat thread or the question thread and someone will put it in spoiler tags for you. There's a good chance you already know what it is through osmosis if you've been reading Marvel threads at all.
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Dec 29, 2018 18:04
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If I want to read Hellblazer am I better off just starting at the beginning and going all the way through or should I pick and choose certain arcs? At 20+ volumes reading the whole thing seems like a pretty big (and pricey) commitment.
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Dec 31, 2018 04:34
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Sarchasm posted:If I want to read Hellblazer am I better off just starting at the beginning and going all the way through or should I pick and choose certain arcs? At 20+ volumes reading the whole thing seems like a pretty big (and pricey) commitment. Start at Ennis. I like the earlier stuff but it drags a lot in places.
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Start at the beginning. Which is to say, start with Swamp Thing. 
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So I watched and loved the Spider-Verse movie this weekend. I know that's based off a series, but I don't quite know where to start and, more importantly, if that series has the lighthearted, funny narrative and extremely vibrant and dynamic artistic direction. I particularly liked the awkward teen relationship between Miles and Gwen, as well as the schlubby B-list Spider-Man who has made bad choices in life and wants to correct them. Any guidance? Particular runs or series to scratch those itches?
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Jan 14, 2019 15:04
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I can't think of anything that matches that particular art style, but for the characters: There's Spider-Gwen starring Spider-Gwen. There's a 5 issue miniseries followed by a 34-issue ongoing. It crosses over with Miles for a couple issues. I haven't read this other than the crossover (which was fun), but it had its fans. For Miles: Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man, Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man, all written by Brian Michael Bendis, and Saladin Ahmed just started Miles Morales: Spider-Man. He also has a pretty important role in Secret Wars, but recommending that kind of requires recommending all of Hickman's Avengers, too (which is fantastic, mind, but it's a lot). For Spider-Man Noir there's Spider-Man Noir and Spider-Man Noir: Eyes Without a Face, neither of which I've read, but other than the Spider-Verse and Spider-Geddon miniseries, that's about it for him. (I think SP//DER comes from these as well, though the design is way different and I have no idea if they're remotely similar characters as I haven't read either of them.) Older shlubby Peter isn't really a thing, though the recent Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man series by Chip Zdarsky is a good Spider-Man series with some dimension-hopping stuff if that's your bag. Most or all of this should be available on Marvel Unlimited. (Spider-Geddon is probably not there just yet, but will be eventually.) You can also join us over in the Newspaper Spider-Man thread for a less, uh, competent Peter. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Jan 14, 2019 16:23
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Endless Mike posted:I can't think of anything that matches that particular art style, but for the characters: No mention of Peter Porker: The Spectacular Spider-Ham? Because that's the best one. And Spider-Gwen is great, but upbeat it is not. It's very much a return to the very original angsty Spider-Man. But the art is pretty good and dynamic.
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I guess there is old, fat Spider-Man in Earth X, but I'm definitely not recommending that to someone looking for Spider-Verse-style stuff.
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Thanks for the help! I think I actually have vol 1 of Spider Gwen on comixology already, so I guess I'll start there.
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Jan 16, 2019 13:47
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Spider-Gwen is a very cool character with a really cool supporting cast. The problem is the writer frequently would spend more time on "Earth 65 version of THIS character" to the point where the book really felt it had no focus. Like you can do a book set in it's own universe while simultaneously having a main cast of regular characters and doing some basic world building. But a lot times it just seemed like the world building took priority and left the book kinda boring. The new series is dealing with some crossover stuff fresh out of the gate, but even with that I think I like the characterization of Gwen better than I did in the older series.
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Hey all, first time posting in the comics subforum! I started working at a game and comic shop that opened last January in the Boston, Massachusetts area (I am a board game designer outside of work, and am now the games & events lead, in addition to the main game buyer for the shop), and fell into reading Marvel comics. (Proximity and exposure is a dangerous thing for my wallet...) I've had a fantastic time with Marvel's heroes as of late, especially with my pattern of "read a team book/issue, find the individual series for the characters and read those. Repeat until a new team book comes out." So here's why I'm posting. I have been struck by a lot of recent characters' social, technological, and mental health awareness. "Tony Stark: Iron Man" offers insane looks at real-world technological issues, ranging from VR and industrial espionage to online dating and robot rights. "Unstoppable Wasp" is the most delightful and cool yet tragically optimistic character I've ever read. The ending of "The Unbelievable Gwenpool" left me in tears at a game night (it was mad awkward), and is one of the coolest examples of a "text" (from an English major standpoint) I have encountered in any medium. Etc. So what should be next on my reading list? Here's what I've read/am reading lately: The Unstoppable Wasp (all trades, and staying current as it's released) The Unbelievable Gwenpool (all trades) Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (staying current from last year's #1) Tony Stark: Iron Man (staying current from last year's #1) The Life of Captain Marvel (concluded, and honestly? I didn't like this one that much; it was slow at times, and weirdly paced, without adding much to her character; felt a bit like they just needed an excuse to retcon her) Captain Marvel (just finished the new #1, and also enjoyed v1-3 of the 2014 series) The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl (read the first 2 trades, will probably get more as money allows) West Coast Avengers (staying current from last year's #1) Champions (I have the first 'season's' trades 2-5 on order, and am reading the new #1 onwards this year) America (while I have both trades, as of 3/4 through #1, I actually haven't liked this solo book; it's all over the place with the writing, and I don't like the time skips with 0 explanation) Ironheart (just started last month, and I'm in on the ground floor, baby!) Hawkeye (loved the Fraction stuff, and just bought the next two trades today) Killmonger (ongoing since #1) Marvel Rising (the Squirrel Girl/Ms. Marvel mini series) There's probably more, but it's late, I'm tired. haha. Of these that are still ongoing, West Coast Avengers, Unstoppable Wasp, Tony Stark: Iron Man, and Champions have made me the happiest when they arrive on our shelves. Of the concluded series, Gwenpool is tops for me, by far. Partly because I loved Dr. McNinja, and Hastings' "rule of cool" writing style always gelled with me. The ones I've liked least so far are America (despite loving her in all the other stuff I've read), The Life of Captain Marvel, and the new Captain Marvel series (mostly due to that last page for that first issue... I am pissed at the direction I think they're going to take the series, especially since I like her in Avengers). The next series I will likely be getting as trades (based mostly on their inclusion in other stories I've liked) include... Mockingbird Ms. Marvel (though this one will be slower to acquire, like Squirrel Girl, since there's a lot to read at this point) Hawkeye: Kate Bishop Generally I avoid reading Spider-people since there's TOO FREAKIN' MANY BOOKS thanks to this ridiculous Spidergeddon event plus the movie (which I DID enjoy), and I don't tend towards the street-level stuff like Daredevil, since it's not flashy enough. haha. So, who's got recommendations for me? And who's gonna come visit me in the Boston 'burbs at my shop?  PS: For those wondering, I read ONE DC series: Teen Titans, specifically from #20 on, with Damian Wayne leading as Robin, because man, that team is gonna implode SUPER fast once everyone realizes the secrets that have been piling up are gonna rip them apart. It's a great train wreck story, (and Crush rocks).
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mepstein73 posted:So, who's got recommendations for me? Patsy Walker, A.K.A. Hellcat! is another of Marvel's light and funny series, and based on the books you've read and liked I have no hesitation in recommending it.
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mepstein73 posted:So, who's got recommendations for me? She-Hulk by Charles Soule and Javier Pulido (who drew some issues of Fraction's Hawkeye) Superior Foes of Spider-Man by Nick Spencer and Steve Lieber. Astonishing Ant-Man by Nick Spencer and Ramon Rosanas
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Bendis' new youth focused DC stuff might be up your alley. Young Justice started really fun, and Naomi begins next week. and for more Damian, make sure you've read Super-Sons where he's teamed with the latest Superboy. There's a recent omnibus of the series. And if you like that, the same author did the excellent Superman Rebirth run, which features that Superboy, and a Batman and Robin run before that, featuring Damian. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jan 17, 2019 |
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Jan 17, 2019 08:23
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Hubbardologist posted:So I watched and loved the Spider-Verse movie this weekend. I know that's based off a series, but I don't quite know where to start and, more importantly, if that series has the lighthearted, funny narrative and extremely vibrant and dynamic artistic direction. I particularly liked the awkward teen relationship between Miles and Gwen, as well as the schlubby B-list Spider-Man who has made bad choices in life and wants to correct them. For that Matter, JMS' run also had Peter putting his life back together, including getting back together with MJ, but that does come with some baggage in the form of both the totem elements and later a bunch of events and storylines that are regarded as...not good (although how much is on JMS and how much is one editorial is still up in the air). Other than that, Endless Mike covered everything.
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Jan 18, 2019 20:35
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Oh yeah the one issue of FN Spider-Man was great but I'm hesitant to recommend that to someone looking for complete stories.
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Jan 18, 2019 21:55
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Tell me about Black Hammer. I've heard pretty breathless praise for it.
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It's pretty great. Kind of a cross between historical deconstruction and mystery story, but not as clichéd as you'd expect. Pretty much anything Lemire is a safe bet, I have yet to be disappointed by him.
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Hubbardologist posted:So I watched and loved the Spider-Verse movie this weekend. I know that's based off a series, but I don't quite know where to start and, more importantly, if that series has the lighthearted, funny narrative and extremely vibrant and dynamic artistic direction. I particularly liked the awkward teen relationship between Miles and Gwen, as well as the schlubby B-list Spider-Man who has made bad choices in life and wants to correct them. This isn't a Spider Book but if you want awkward teen romance and a lighthearted yet emotionally deep story then Kieron Gillen's Young Avengers from 2013 was a favourite of mine
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Help me Recommendation thread, you're my only hope! I work at a Library that is part of a group of six for my area that are currently going through their stock and having a re-fresh of their graphic novels. I've been trying to keep on top of that already with getting stuff in for my library, requesting from the stock buyers or straight up getting and donating books myself. We've 2 sections of GNs a younger reader/teens and an adult section, and I have to admit that my focus has lain mostly on the younger readers/teens as thats pretty much my main customers. I've been asked to help with picking new stuff for all of the libraries starting on a focus of the adult books which will now be aimed as 'Teen/adult' with 10 books that will be standard for all 6 libraries and then others that will be exclusive to each one more focused on what appeals to their customers. Here in lies my problem. I'm good at the weirder/indie/lgbtq/all ages ect books, but for the core 10 they have asked that they be Marvel and DC superheroes that are around 5 years old to stay fresh that stand on their own with an emphasis on being 'cool'. Since the birth of my kid I've barely touched superhero comics for about 3 years now. I'm kinda at a loss as to what to suggest that is this current that stands on its own rather than being a series. My list at the moment looks like this Spider-verse Sandman Overture Omegamen Secret wars (2015) and despite me saying I was leaning away from the series, Black panther 1 by Ta Nehisi Coates Spider-man: Miles morales (2016) As thanks to their respective movies we've go some very excited kids and teens who want to read comics right now. And then I'm stuck, are these even good picks as a 'fresh new 10?' what else do I add? I've been thinking hard on it all day but its apparent to me that on the cape comics I'm that old man with comics that are all over 10 years old each. Any ideas?
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I know you said you're avoiding series, but my Ms Marvel and Squirrel Girl avoid crossovers and the individual trades will have a complete story. Squirrel Girl has a stand alone graphic novel that doesn't need any continuity from the main series too.
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The recent Vision series *might* be worth putting in there. The 2013 Young Avengers series definitely is.
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Skwirl posted:I know you said you're avoiding series, but my Ms Marvel and Squirrel Girl avoid crossovers and the individual trades will have a complete story. Squirrel Girl has a stand alone graphic novel that doesn't need any continuity from the main series too. SG vol 1.5 crossed over with Howard vol 1.5 I think but other than that there wasn't any crossovers
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I'm not new to comics but I haven't been reading actively for about a decade other than a few things - namely Invincible and Rat Queens. After playing Spider-Man and enjoying the gently caress out of the Marvel movies (more recently "Into the Spider-Verse", which was loving fantastic), I'd like to read some Marvel trades but have no idea where to start. Any suggested trades from the last couple decades I should look into? I picked up Secret Wars on a whim but I'm having a hard time figuring out who everyone is, so something a bit more basic would be great. Edit: I realize this is an example of a "bad question" as far as the OP is concerned, but I literally have no baseline or idea where to start and don't want to waste money on something lovely. New Leaf fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 20:46
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Matt Fraction's Hawkeye Matt Fraction's Immortal Iron Fist Remender's X-Force(This will be confusing at first, but because it is a X-men book, you will grasp the idea as you go) Coates' Black Panther Tom King's The Vision For something on the sillier side: Ryan North's Squirrel Girl Chip Zdarsky's Howard The Duck It was not my thing but people tend to recommend G. Willow Wilson's Ms. Marvel as a modern Spider-man so you might enjoy it.
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Samuringa posted:Matt Fraction's Hawkeye This is awesome, thank you!
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I'd suggest Aaron's Thor, especially if you wanna (eventually) get to Secret Wars. Kinda hard not to recommend Hickman's Avengers runs leading up to Secret Wars, though I thought they fell a little flat. His Fantastic Four was amazing.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:28
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Uthor posted:I'd suggest Aaron's Thor, especially if you wanna (eventually) get to Secret Wars. mother of gently caress, I'm a goddamn moron for forgetting that one
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Aaron’s Thor is really long and reasonably complicated. I think the suggestions a couple posts up were pretty good and, importantly, represent fairly self contained work. Hickman’s Avengers falls into the same boat. It’s great stuff, but there’s a ton of it and he was trying to do this big epic that really works better as a whole.
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All-New Wolverine and Gwenpool because i will never not recommend it
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Has Aaron’s work on Thor been good throughout? I read The God Butcher and Godbomb tpb’s and liked them a lot, and I see he continued that and followed it up with The Mighty Thor.
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Feb 8, 2019 04:15
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Hell yes. And it’s still going.
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Aaron's Thor is pretty simple. You don't even need to know what Thor is the god of.
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Thanks for all the advice, goons! Really appreciate it. Made a big Amazon list so I can start picking things up. Matt Fraction's Hawkeye looks familiar - I might have read the first trade of that way back but not sure or I might have just come across it in the Funny Panels thread a lot. I have a buddy who used to give me trades to read but I don't see him so much anymore. Is there a particular Spider-Man title people recommend? I really enjoyed the Spider-Verse movie and the PS4 game (and ironically am horribly afraid of spiders IRL) and wouldn't mind getting into the Spider-Verse comics but not sure if there are some duds in there.
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I enjoyed Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows, though it is its own universe.
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