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speaking of battle suits, was the plot from like, Chapter 4, with the bald headed guy who stole suits and was then attacked by spooky looking dudes ever resolved or was that the joke e: these guys  
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I don't think we've learned much more about The Organization (maybe Metal Knight is involved???) but Hammerhead wasn't kidnapped and was later seen trying to hold down a regular job in a cameo I think. Oh they also provided those combat suits that were given to the mooks sent in to rescue the kid and they were behind the robot that attacked King in his introduction. Captain Cappy fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Jan 27, 2019 19:27
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I believe that the robot that wanted to fight King was from The Organization and also that robot helping the Monster Association, maybe? But no real payoff yet.
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Jan 27, 2019 19:32
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Expect My Mom posted:speaking of battle suits, was the plot from like, Chapter 4, with the bald headed guy who stole suits and was then attacked by spooky looking dudes ever resolved or was that the joke I remember him showing up for a couple panels later on. I couldn't tell you the exact details, but it was something to the effect of him working at a job while watching the TV news covering a monster attack. I think.
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Jan 27, 2019 22:16
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Maybe it's a future story dealing with Genos backstory and lots and lots of robots
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Jan 27, 2019 22:34
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AtomikKrab posted:Zombieman Spin off Comic When?
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Jan 28, 2019 03:19
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Captain Quack posted:It's a manga that exists in-Universe:
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Jan 28, 2019 03:51
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I'd like to see a Zombieman noir story that borrows heavily from Watchman and isn't just gags on gags. Some humor is fine, but gosh darn it, this was so loving good.
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Feb 6, 2019 08:59
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Just read through the entire manga in a few sittings. ... Then I decided to read through this thread. No idea what I was thinking. In any case: 1. I appreciate the fight scenes 2. Really feels like the comic is trying to make a point about heroism, power and obsession. 3. I know this was partly disproved in numerous examples, but re: point 2, Saitama being part monster (either due to eating monsters or due to extreme determination) would actually make sense.
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Feb 7, 2019 21:30
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The core joke of the manga is that Saitama is just that powerful because he is
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Feb 7, 2019 22:50
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Xander77 posted:2. Really feels like the comic is trying to make a point about heroism, power and obsession.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:55
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Expect My Mom posted:I have absolutely no idea where you'd get this idea, a real reach Genos's initial revenge motivation and the Hero Association, hierachy probably.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:57
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RareAcumen posted:Genos's initial revenge motivation and the Hero Association, hierachy probably. 
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Feb 7, 2019 22:58
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Expect My Mom posted:I have absolutely no idea where you'd get this idea, a real reach But if "it's a gag comic, the source of Saitama's power will never be revealed because it's less funny that way" was true for One's webcomic, I'm not sure it's the case for this version.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:02
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RareAcumen posted:Genos's initial revenge motivation and the Hero Association, hierachy probably.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:10
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Xander77 posted:A bit of a stretch, I know. Saitama revealed the source of his power like, really early on.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:36
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Xander77 posted:
Saitama is not part monster, though he did have a very intense training regime that he adhere’d to 100% after he decided to become a hero and protect people from monsters. Maybe it makes him a monster in a figurative sense like “man Saitama’s training gave him the strength of a monster (not an actual monster since in this world there are actual monster, more like monster-energy general word use indicating extreme)” or “Saitama is a monster in the gym” etc.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:39
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Xander77 posted:Then I decided to read through this thread. No idea what I was thinking. I don't believe you. 
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Feb 7, 2019 23:52
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Yeah I'm really confused by people who think the fiction is "lying" to them or something. Even when something like Saitama's power is explained by the man himself, a lot of people just ignore it and say that just can't be the answer, rather than just believing it until proven otherwise. In this universe, I can sort of see why someone could get there i guess because people do become Monsters through extreme dedication to something, like Crab Man or the guy who turned into a car, but those are all cases born out of selfishness. But If Saitama's sincere desire to be a hero and save people turned him into a Monster, or if he just got strong by complete accident, then that's just stupid. He's an example of how anyone can be a powerful hero by having constant determination. To think that there must be something else behind would just be dumb, it would make it a weaker story and would probably make me drop it entirely anyway Xander you should read/watch Mob Psycho if you want to experience a completed ONE work now that you're caught up.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:58
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Expect My Mom posted:Yeah I'm really confused by people who think the fiction is "lying" to them or something. Even when something like Saitama's power is explained by the man himself, a lot of people just ignore it and say that just can't be the answer, rather than just believing it until proven otherwise. Because immediately after the explanation the fiction says 'no way you're lying.' As a joke. And people miss that for some reason.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:02
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I can kind of see the logic. Man obsessed with crabs turns into powerful crab man. Man obsessed with hair turns into powerful hair man. Man obsessed with reptiles turns into a powerful reptile man. Therefore a man obsessed with becoming powerful turns into a super powerful man.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:13
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I suppose Saitama could be said to be a 'monster' in the sense that he removed his limits through hard training and dedication, but unlike the monsters he kept his humanity and doesn't go around trying to kill everyone. OTOH Maybe it's not Saitama who's part monster, but the monsters are part Saitama...
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Feb 8, 2019 00:31
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I think "how did saitama get this powerful?" and "is it really as simple as saitama said? Is there more to it?" Are questions the comic intentionally wants the reader to be asking. The characters question it and many characters frequently wonder at how saitama got as atrong as he did, there's a bit of an air of mystery/unanswered questions around it I don't think the comic intends for it to be a major focus of the reader though. In general, "saitama is crazy strong" is just the basic premise of the comic, something the reader is supposed to just accept and internalize for the rest of the comic to build on top of it.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:44
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Xander77 posted:I know this was partly disproved in numerous examples, but re: point 2, Saitama being part monster (either due to eating monsters or due to extreme determination) would actually make sense. Thanks! I liked coming up with the theory (I am stating my claim here and now) because it's a neat theory that is fun to come up with evidence for. It's like fantasy football, doesn't have any connection to reality, but drat it I will argue for it. Donkringel fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Feb 8, 2019 |
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Feb 8, 2019 01:03
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if you can become a really strong monster through bad obsessions what about becoming a really strong hero by having good obsessions
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Feb 8, 2019 02:10
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I always took it as people becoming monsters due to obsession and heroes through determination. I mean it's not a literal 1-for-1 thing cause you got artificial monsters, non-human monsters, and natural monsters, but still.
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Feb 8, 2019 02:31
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Kild posted:if you can become a really strong monster through bad obsessions what about becoming a really strong hero by having good obsessions Also they don't look too weird. like Watchdogman and Pig God are pretty weird, but not like, bug-lizardman weird. Truly the mark of a hero is good hygiene and skin care. It's what separates man from monster 
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Feb 8, 2019 02:38
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Monsterification seems to be about obsession from what we've seen so far. The heroes are just weirdos with superpowers though. And some are just robots or science experiments or child geniuses
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Feb 8, 2019 02:43
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Genos is someone I would call almost a Monster. He completely threw away his humanity to become a brain in a very frail jar because he was obsessed with revenge. He's definitely a hero now, and still cared about innocent people in his introduction, but even he questions where his Lust For Revenge would have taken him if he hadn't met Saitama, who is clearly a parallel for Genos is like, four or five different waysKild posted:if you can become a really strong monster through bad obsessions what about becoming a really strong hero by having good obsessions
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Feb 8, 2019 02:44
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Saitama is a hero because he was obsessed with becoming a hero. That's the reason he wanted to become strong, after all.
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Feb 8, 2019 03:06
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Saitama’s not even that obsessed, he’s only a hero as a hobby, and he always shows up late.
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Feb 8, 2019 03:19
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There's literally no difference between heroes and monsters you idiots you fools.
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Feb 8, 2019 03:32
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If we're talking about edge cases, Zombieman is basically the same as Armored Gorilla. Made by the same process, in the same building, by the same mad scientist. Currently, they're both productive members of society. It's just that Zombieman went and got a job from the hero organization, while Armored Gorilla was causing havoc until he got enough of the crap kicked out of him to decide to quit and work in a soba shop.
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Feb 8, 2019 04:46
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I've been saying the whole "obsession" thing for years and instead people were theorizing that Saitama is strong because he eats monsters. Meanwhile you have a guy who's super strong because he believes wearing tanktops make him strong. It's a really common theme in Japanese media, OPM uses it for the background. Also to go with the joke, everyone else is overly aware of why they're strong the way they are to different degrees (the monsters in particular know exactly the dumb reason that made them monsters, crab man knows his reason, phoenix man thinks it's all about the costume so when he loses the costume he loses his power. It's all in his head, the costume had no real power). Saitama is dumb as a bell, almost fails on a written test, and doesn't overthink his own power while Genos' entire purpose is theorycrafting why Saitama is strong. Genos lives in a world of logic and reason and thus only grows when the doctor gives him new implants, while Saitama is too dumb to realize that working out the way he did should in no way "break his limiter" or make him strong enough to punch a meteor. Garou further extends this by being too conscious about being a monster instead of being dumb about it. Metal Bat literally talks about his fighting spirit, the most cliché of all shounen clichés, as a thing that gives him power.
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Feb 8, 2019 06:37
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I always took it as people becoming monsters due to obsession and heroes through determination. Yeah I think that's it. I'd extend on "obsession" and include anxieties as well. Considering ONE writes satires about the social structures in Japan (both in OPM and Mob Psycho) the most clear cut rule I see is that the monsters usually become monsters because of their anxieties and the heroes through belief. Genos doesn't believe Saitama's stupid reason, so he can never be stronger than his body allows. It's also interesting that he's a cyborg, because thinking as a writer, it's a genius move to do that. It can be made ambiguous if becoming stronger is tied to your body or not, but that's also the perfect source of confusion. Think about it - even if Genos were to accept Saitama's premise, he literally cannot work out the way Saitama does. You'd have to be even dumber to do a work out routine being a cyborg and believe it works. Even if he accepted the premise that power is tied to willpower, he's still comically limited by not being able to train under any of the conditions Saitama did. His entire project is doomed from the start. There's been more than a monster who couldn't get out of his costume, a monster who couldn't get a spider out of his ear. Then there are the obsessions, a monster who ate crab too much, a monster who loved cars too much. The main difference between Darkshine, Tanktop and Saitama is just how much they believe in their routines. Saitama literally states he wanted to be the hero who could one punch monsters he saw on TV. Even Bill Burr could see how obvious it was that the monsters are a reflection of social obsession and anxieties. "Or you can just get loving high and watch this bald-headed dude loving punch half a crab in the head and watch it explode" which is also equally valid. Elentor fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Feb 8, 2019 |
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Feb 8, 2019 06:53
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I have to agree with most everyone, the Child Emperor chapters mostly just felt like a waste of time. The conclusion was good though, as was the joke about the guy with a knife. I think it would have probably been better if I had read it in one sitting as others suggested. Xander77 posted:Then I decided to read through this thread. No idea what I was thinking. Haha, I did this too. Shame the Twitter links are usually broken by the time I get to them. Also, gonna also join the recommending Mob Psycho 100 train. It is very excellent. To the guy who was tired of conmen: I hope you give it another chance some time; Reigen truly is an amazing character. There's better emphasis on him helping people as the series goes on as well. Also sure are a lot of people in this thread claiming Common Rider isn't dedicated enough of a hero. Smh.
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Feb 8, 2019 07:16
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Remember that guy who quit blizzard’s group because Saitama told him to keep training? He’s been training both his body and mind by himself for like six months and he almost defeated Garou already.
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Feb 8, 2019 07:22
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it's not just his determination that made him strong but the fact that he faced that determination with effort and no slacking. he set goals that pushed him to the point he thought he was going to die and didn't waiver.
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Feb 8, 2019 07:40
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There's a dude who shadow boxed so much he became a shadow boxing monster instead of becoming a swole hero, presumably cause it was all he was obsessed with doing.
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Feb 8, 2019 07:49
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One of my favorite recurring jokes is the little box saying threat level: tiger next to monsters saying they're threat level god.
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