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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Jehde posted:

The reliability in which goons dismiss any complaint against quality as "just hating fun" is fascinating. You're allowed to enjoy what Clarkson, Hammond, and May do while still wanting them to do better.

:agreed:

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Jehde posted:

The reliability in which goons dismiss any complaint against quality as "just hating fun" is fascinating. You're allowed to enjoy what Clarkson, Hammond, and May do while still wanting them to do better. The repetitiveness is getting too much for me though, I'm naively hoping they change things up once they ditch the tent.

But people have been complaining about the repetitiveness and the crudeness of the jokes and the immaturity since literally fifteen years ago. Every season of Top Gear, and every season of The Grand Tour, and guess what, I don't think they're going to change their formula. If I am at all tired of the same old jokes on The Grand Tour, then I am doubly tired of everybody trying to turn it into something it isn't, like Fifth Gear.

Anyway, latest episode is good. Is that the same Ford Ranger we (ie Murica) are going to be getting, or are we getting a new generation Ranger?

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

The tiny Hammond statue legit got me. I cracked up when they revealed how small it was.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

CornHolio posted:

But people have been complaining about the repetitiveness and the crudeness of the jokes and the immaturity since literally fifteen years ago. Every season of Top Gear, and every season of The Grand Tour, and guess what, I don't think they're going to change their formula. If I am at all tired of the same old jokes on The Grand Tour, then I am doubly tired of everybody trying to turn it into something it isn't, like Fifth Gear.

Anyway, latest episode is good. Is that the same Ford Ranger we (ie Murica) are going to be getting, or are we getting a new generation Ranger?

Yeah mostly the same.

quote:

The American Ranger is derived from the Ford T6 global midsize truck architecture designed by Ford of Australia. While already designed to accommodate left-hand drive use, the T6 chassis underwent further modifications for use in North America. To better accommodate American crash standards and increase its payload, the frame was revised to include fully boxed frame rails.[4] All versions of the Ranger sold in North America have a 127-inch wheelbase, regardless of cab or drivetrain configuration

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
did they actually do that with live ammo?

another good episode. show is good.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




The Walrus posted:

did they actually do that with live ammo?

another good episode. show is good.

the ending had me incoherent with laughter.

I'm guessing live ammo, good scripting and careful editing.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Mar 23, 2021

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


No, they absolutely did not use live ammo. It was blanks and then small explosive charges (for the .50) or added in post for the AK bullets. Once I noticed it tbh really took me out of the segment.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


I used to be a bit of a Top Gear apologist. Any time someone would complain about the dumb scripted goofing around poo poo episodes I'd be like "well its still more entertaining than 99% of everything else on TV"

After how good Grand Tour has become I was disheartened to see it descend back into Top Gear / GT Season 1 bullshit. The only good parts of that episode were with the Jag.


*edit* apparently this has been argued quite a bit over the last page and a half, carry on

Basticle fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Feb 2, 2019

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Would you give James May live ammo while he's bouncing around in the back of a pickup with an AK?

It was a reasonably entertaining episode but I wish they'd made some effort to make the fuel "race" seem like an actual race instead of just random shots of them driving around offroad. The statue gag got a chuckle from me though, obvious as it was.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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bloom posted:

Would you give James May live ammo while he's bouncing around in the back of a pickup with an AK?

It was a reasonably entertaining episode but I wish they'd made some effort to make the fuel "race" seem like an actual race instead of just random shots of them driving around offroad. The statue gag got a chuckle from me though, obvious as it was.

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

This avatar is paid for by "Avatars for improving Lowtax's spine by any means that doesn't result in him becoming brain dead by putting his brain into a cyborg body and/or putting him in a exosuit due to fears of the suit being hacked and crushing him during a cyberpunk future timeline" Foundation
The statue proportionate to the tyranny.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Camrath posted:

No, they absolutely did not use live ammo. It was blanks and then small explosive charges (for the .50) or added in post for the AK bullets. Once I noticed it tbh really took me out of the segment.

I noticed it too and just went "ehh" and kind of tuned out.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye
Here is my test for if TG/GT is good or not:

- get blazed
- watch show
- if I giggle like a retard at the dick and fart jokes and ogle the beautiful shots of cool cars, it’s good
- if I lose interest and watch YouTube instead it sucks

That’s proven to be a pretty good test for the last 20 seasons or so of TG and so far it’s indicated about 80% success rate of the new show.

Also it’s only one sketch but as far as new stuff I really liked the sketch with the helicopters and gun fighting in the first season where everybody kept dying and resetting. It was really weird and very different while being funny and entertaining to watch.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

i own every Bionicle posted:

- if I lose interest and watch YouTube instead it sucks

Sometimes I set myself up for failure ahead of time. Like the two Colombia episodes I assumed would have a lot of amazing shots and no tent poo poo and I would enjoy them more, so I pulled them up on my tv. This last episode I figured eh we're back to normal I'll just watch it on a web browser taking up half my screen while I chat with people. Did I end up distracted by web pages and Spider Solitaire because the episode started right out of the gate lovely or because I wasn't giving it a fair chance in a small window? I don't know for sure but at least the Jaguar segment made me pay attention. If every episode of every show I watched was so good it demanded 100% of my attention I'd either never get anything done or I'd have to give up most of the shows I watch.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I would pay real world money for the Clarkson Head

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
I'm enjoying the season, but the forced "ha ha THE GAYS" jokes and Clarkson (the character) making GBS threads on the attempts for one of the saddest, most depressing cities in the first world to become something brighter irks the gently caress out of me.

It reminds me of my dad when he thinks he's being funny, but he's just pissing off everyone in the room.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
Well, what can you expect from a concept that is completely drained of new ideas? They are too big to ever go back to the pseudo-real "non-scripted" stuff of old Top Gear (not the later seasons) where you could believe that they were 3 friends messing about making a mess of reviews and road trips. Instead we are left with the big bucks fake poo poo that isn't fun anymore.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Are cheap car challenges one of the things they aren't allowed to do on GT? I guess Colombia was kind of one, used cars at least, but I'd love another real set of wrecks like the 100 pound challenge or the BL challenge.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

projecthalaxy posted:

Are cheap car challenges one of the things they aren't allowed to do on GT? I guess Colombia was kind of one, used cars at least, but I'd love another real set of wrecks like the 100 pound challenge or the BL challenge.

The cheap Porsche challenge and the 10,000 quid Italian supercar challenges were my favorite because they had no hope of succeeding no matter what they bought.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye

CornHolio posted:

The cheap Porsche challenge and the 10,000 quid Italian supercar challenges were my favorite because they had no hope of succeeding no matter what they bought.

Agreed, watching Clarkson’s car grenade and scatter parts all over the road was amazing. Loved that bit.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

projecthalaxy posted:

Are cheap car challenges one of the things they aren't allowed to do on GT? I guess Colombia was kind of one, used cars at least, but I'd love another real set of wrecks like the 100 pound challenge or the BL challenge.

The hosts are too old to be bothered to try anymore.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Falken posted:

I'm enjoying the season, but the forced "ha ha THE GAYS" jokes and Clarkson (the character) making GBS threads on the attempts for one of the saddest, most depressing cities in the first world to become something brighter irks the gently caress out of me.

It reminds me of my dad when he thinks he's being funny, but he's just pissing off everyone in the room.
Even the worst antics in 22 seasons of Top Gear never caused me to react more strongly than a tired eye roll, with the exception of Hammond's bit about Mexicans but that was Hammond, but now it's like he's actively trying to become what publications like the Guardian think he is. It's really quite unpleasant. I haven't yet figured out if he was holding back at the BBC or if it's just that the comedy bits aren't strong enough anymore to make the reactionism worth sitting through.

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003

the stupid barrel rolling into a chopper with pre-located fuel pyrotechnics and the shooting blanks with little buried explosives to kick up dirt kind of pissed me off.

The best episode of top gear IMO was when they took the old lovely British cars driving around Britain to all the shut down factories and it was funny when their clutch wouldn't give them enough power to do a hill start or their handbrake wouldn't hold them in place asnd the most dramatic thing that happened was a car superficially brushing against a signpost...

I don't understand people that need things to be big for entertainment.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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What happened to you?

I got covered in eggs

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

projecthalaxy posted:

Are cheap car challenges one of the things they aren't allowed to do on GT? I guess Colombia was kind of one, used cars at least, but I'd love another real set of wrecks like the 100 pound challenge or the BL challenge.

Also this is what Top Gear USA turned into, nothing but cheap car challenges, and that got cancelled so it apparently doesn't sell as well as silly antics.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


CornHolio posted:

Also this is what Top Gear USA turned into, nothing but cheap car challenges,

Yeah it was awesome. Its a pity that They are real stupid and got it cancelled though.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

CornHolio posted:

Also this is what Top Gear USA turned into, nothing but cheap car challenges, and that got cancelled so it apparently doesn't sell as well as silly antics.

Which sucks because they were getting really good at the end.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Problem is it is an impossible formula to solve. We all have our likes/dislikes that they try to balance to appease a greater audience for ratings.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Okay the aid workers joke was excellent

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
Great Jim Clark tribute this ep.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





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Chris Knight posted:

Great Jim Clark tribute this ep.

Yeah that was pretty cool, good episode overall as well.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I really loved that Jim Clark segment. Even if they do nothing but road trip specials next season, I hope they still have room for cool segments like this. I love all of their historical pieces.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


That Alpine is soo ugly. I don't care how zippy, nope.

But I would totally have that Kalashnikov

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Feb 8, 2019

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
Clarkson doesn't know what he's on about, that Kalashnikov looks great.

Good episode. It's nice when they get away from the juvenile humor for a bit, and they always come across as genuinely interested and passionate in these historical pieces.

HDC
Mar 11, 2006
The kalashnikov is a (badly) modded IZh-2125, so I’m not sure they can put it into production with the base car being discontinued more than two decades ago.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

Chris Knight posted:

Great Jim Clark tribute this ep.

It was absolutely fantastic. I never knew about him and was completely into that segment.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I wish Hammond had driven that Lotus 25 some more, but there was probably insurance reasons or whatever.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

bloom posted:

Good episode. It's nice when they get away from the juvenile humor for a bit, and they always come across as genuinely interested and passionate in these historical pieces.

Yeah the tone of this episode was way more palatable, and I enjoyed each segment to some degree.

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pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

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Cojawfee posted:

I wish Hammond had driven that Lotus 25 some more, but there was probably insurance reasons or whatever.

It's Hammond, he'd have ended up finding a cliff on a flat track to drive off

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