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fadam
Apr 23, 2008

What's instant text and why is it so controversial with Pokemon runners?

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Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




fadam posted:

What's instant text and why is it so controversial with Pokemon runners?

Speedrunners the world over constantly argue about what is a "glitch" and if something is allowed or not in a "glitchless" run. I assume instant text does what it says on the tin. Text in early pokemon games is pretty slow.

I don't know how much time it saves, but in Xenogears if you use an instant text gameshark code, it brings any% down from 18 hours to under 12.

Ultima66
Sep 2, 2008

quote:

When the player activates the two message boxes with the price of the Bicycle (Bicycle ‎₽1000000) and the text "It's a cool BIKE! Do you want it?", the game sets bit 6 of memory address D730 in order to instantly display the text. Due to an oversight, bit 6 remains set when exiting the menu with B.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Ultima66 posted:

I was watching a recent Keizaron Pokemon Rando race vod and he brought up some drama he started by posting a pastebin and this is so stereotypical for speedrunners at this point it almost seems like a self-parody.

The pastebin was basically him saying Gunnermaniac only cares about going for world records, doesn't contribute to the community, and disappeared from the internet for a while leaving his stream to autohost Keizaron, who got extremely tired of trying to answer that Gunner isn't around and he has no idea where he is. Also I guess some poo poo about how Keizaron changed an emote to some anime waifu that Gunner has on his stream as a jab and Gunner banned/blocked Keizaron from everything and refuses to speak to him at all now.

https://pastebin.com/CeYrgcA8

FWIW in the comments in the Twitter thread people say that Gunner has always been kind of an rear end in a top hat that only cares about getting WRs and also his chat is unmoderated Twitch garbage. And Gunner just had a run at AGDQ, which Keizaron did interviews for so eh. I don't really like Keizaron that much either since he's a pretty obnoxious memelord, but he was ranting about how all the older Pokemon speedrunners are making themselves miserable just going for WRs to the point that they've become assholes that don't remember what fun is and it's unhealthy.

Why would you even do "fake fights" on Twitch, you know how fuckin' toxic Twitch chat is and how they crave stupid drama. Fuckin' memekids.

At least, if that's the worst we hear about Keizaron, that's great, considering the one goon blowing him up for GF abuse (apparently that poo poo was suspect).

Dias fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Feb 5, 2019

VHGS
Jul 24, 2013

Boogalo posted:

Speedrunners the world over constantly argue about what is a "glitch" and if something is allowed or not in a "glitchless" run. I assume instant text does what it says on the tin. Text in early pokemon games is pretty slow.

This is exactly it. It saves quite a bit of time, but you lose it if you open the start menu or use a pokemon center, which means the optimal route is very unlikely to actually finish a run. That's reason enough to hate it in my opinion, but I think there was some drama around the category definitions when it was discovered, too.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




VHGS posted:

This is exactly it. It saves quite a bit of time, but you lose it if you open the start menu or use a pokemon center, which means the optimal route is very unlikely to actually finish a run. That's reason enough to hate it in my opinion, but I think there was some drama around the category definitions when it was discovered, too.

That sounds like it at least requires some interesting routing decisions to the point where you have to choose safe vs risk having to heal and it should be in A category, just not glitchless. But of course everyone wants their category to be the MAIN category.

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.
it's cool how even in a callout pastebin he manages to make himself sound like kind of a tosspot.

boohoo man took a 2 month break??

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Dias posted:

At least, if that's the worst we hear about Keizaron, that's great, considering the one goon blowing him up for GF abuse (apparently that poo poo was suspect).

was there ever any followup to this? why do you say it was suspect?

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Overwatch Porn posted:

was there ever any followup to this? why do you say it was suspect?

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

yeah you might want to cease fire on Keiz until further notice

Further digging indicates the full story is kind of wild and Noise Complaint (the goon who posted about it) was screaming his head off in Keiz's chat some time back about how he was gonna get him banned which is not precisely the look I would expect from this scenario.

Still, that is "until further notice". The situation is complex and the thread probably isn't ever going to have all the information needed, so best not to be hasty.

also noise complaint is apparently an incel according to my own sources so cast that shadow of veracity where one may

Ultima66
Sep 2, 2008

Having seen Keizaron do races I fully believe someone told him to stop being so loud and he refused. The people in his Discord channels always make it a point to turn him down during races.

And that him being so loud might have upset his girlfriend and dog. Dude is like peak screaming Youtuber memelord.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ultima66 posted:

Having seen Keizaron do races I fully believe someone told him to stop being so loud and he refused. The people in his Discord channels always make it a point to turn him down during races.

And that him being so loud might have upset his girlfriend and dog. Dude is like peak screaming Youtuber memelord.


Yeah, the guy plays video games that are well known to have broken, bullshit RNG, then, when broken, bullshit RNG happens he gets mad at the game, starts swearing, and will hit his desk. He needs to get better at managing his frustration.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006


welp

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011


is he always like this? This is seriously like 20 paragraphs "Why don't people feel sorry for me"

"Someone had a mental break for 2 months, but feel sorry for me having to talk to people!"

"Nobody feels sorry for me because I did some lovely things BUT I WAS JUST MEMEING"

"I was on a committee to accept runs and we rejected one of another dudes and it made him sad but WHY DONT YOU FEEL SORRY FOR ME ABOUT IT."

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

SoftNum posted:

is he always like this?

Yes.

also re: him being a sex pest while he's a ginormous manchild try not to believe everything a random forum post says about someone even though it's not really much of a stretch. Still unsubstantiated and people who know his circumstances better than I do have told me their own version of events which are massively contradictory to the version we got. Mainly involving his ex mistreating their dog as leverage, which does actually track with what I know about him, guy loves dogs.

How much of that is just being filtered through his own narrative to his community I could not guess. It's vague and legal stuff pending enough that I don't think the Speedrun Thread Special of instantly devolving into a bizarre poorly informed witchhunt is apropos.

he is a twat tho so I still wouldn't be especially surprised if it does pan out that way

SuccinctAndPunchy fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Feb 6, 2019

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.
https://twitter.com/Succinct_Punchy/status/1093772329107234816


:shittydog: :shittydog: :shittydog: :shittydog: :shittydog: :shittydog:

abraxas
Apr 6, 2004

"It's a Yuletide!"





What happened that made you get such a massive improvement? Just optimized your run so much or good rng or what? Gimme the deets pls and thx

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

abraxas posted:

What happened that made you get such a massive improvement? Just optimized your run so much or good rng or what? Gimme the deets pls and thx

honestly I was at the point where I needed good RNG to not lose time. It's just a really really clean run.

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

I'm not sure if Punchy can be considered a speedrunner if he's happy with a run?? Congrats that's awesome, gonna watch the VOD.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


I recently watched PJ's Robotrek run from RPG Limit Break 2016. That was a real treat. While he doesn't manage to destroy any equipment, there's a lot of funny RNG.

I wish I could actually catch the dude streaming for once!


:dogcited:

:cheerdoge:

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

gj buddy

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.
https://youtu.be/YT6yCqPxUJc

commentary vod. Contains me extolling the virtues of dogs being the ultimate cute lifeforms above all else and also pulling a variety of expressions when I realise the run is actually hot as gently caress.

Stokes
Jun 13, 2003

Maybe Kris can come in, and we can throw M-80s at his asshole.
Congrats Punchy.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
its legit bullshit that i have to read discord to catch pastebin drama instead of it being here

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
ok

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


eonwe posted:

its legit bullshit that i have to read discord to catch pastebin drama instead of it being here

I hate to tell you, but forums are dying

(dead)

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:

eonwe posted:

its legit bullshit that i have to read discord to catch pastebin drama instead of it being here

Just like indie devs i got paid to make it discord exclusive at launch

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
too bad one of the frame savers guys is a sex pest, and the other wants to keep doing a podcast woth him

StupidSexyMothman
Aug 9, 2010

i was just getting into that podcast :smith:
so I'm in the market for a replacement podcast, any suggestions?

KariOhki
Apr 22, 2008
The RPGLB 2019 games list is out!

https://rpglimitbreak.com/games (if you see demon chocobo, refresh, site is being hammered)

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.


KariOhki posted:

The RPGLB 2019 games list is out!

https://rpglimitbreak.com/games (if you see demon chocobo, refresh, site is being hammered)

Nice, looks like a lot of awesome games and runs.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

oldskool posted:

i was just getting into that podcast :smith:
so I'm in the market for a replacement podcast, any suggestions?

There's a goon run podcast about A Link to the Past Randomizer if you're a Rando fan: http://gomodepodcast.com/

Full disclosure: I'm a producer, editor, and one of the co-hosts

Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

1 2 3!
If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine

eonwe posted:

too bad one of the frame savers guys is a sex pest, and the other wants to keep doing a podcast woth him

Did I miss the pastebin on this?

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

Golbez posted:

Did I miss the pastebin on this?

I too was curious so I looked into it and, yes, there is indeed a pastebin!

https://pastebin.com/6USe64Up

Stokes
Jun 13, 2003

Maybe Kris can come in, and we can throw M-80s at his asshole.
There are a lot of cool runs for rpglimitbreak this year. Glad to see it.

zoast got the Super Metroid any% WR back https://www.twitch.tv/videos/378760790?t=1h2m

I haven't watched a run of this game in a while but I can tell just how much more optimized the movement is from back when it was 42:xx. Crazy.

Edit: Here is the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWBff3f6bUA

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007

timp posted:

I too was curious so I looked into it and, yes, there is indeed a pastebin!

https://pastebin.com/6USe64Up

Don't forget the response pastebin from "Wendy," which includes screenshots:

https://pastebin.com/W7aLeDcy

TheMadMilkman fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Feb 11, 2019

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Absolutely NOT a dick pic

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


KariOhki posted:

The RPGLB 2019 games list is out!

https://rpglimitbreak.com/games (if you see demon chocobo, refresh, site is being hammered)

PJ is running Robotrek again!! :swoon:

Also hell yes Vagrant Story.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Oh boy. Breath of Fire IV, FF Tactics, two different Odin Sphere runs, Phantasy Star IV, Vagrant Story...that's a pretty nice lineup. Also a three-way .hack//INFECTION race. And a ten-person FFX relay race? This is going to be bonkers.

How does Breath of Fire Co-Op work?

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Switching in at different chapters, like they did with FF9 disc changes at the last GDQ?

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DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



TheMadMilkman posted:

Don't forget the response pastebin from "Wendy," which includes screenshots:

https://pastebin.com/W7aLeDcy

jesus

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