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anyone got a good strategy guide for speedrunning the complete sherlock holmes? trying to work out how to shave a few extra minutes off my previous time..
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Skip to the one where a rich guy is drinking ground-up monkey brains for immortality but now he swings around his mansion late at nights.
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Feb 10, 2019 13:11
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Mr. Squishy posted:Skip to the one where a rich guy is drinking ground-up monkey brains for immortality but now he swings around his mansion late at nights. Yes, exactly what I’m looking for
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Feb 10, 2019 14:06
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I don't know what to read. I've finished Mrs Dalloway and To The Lighthouse, along with Powers of Horror and The Collected Schizophrenias in non-fiction, and have two academic textbooks on Modernism and Postmodernism, and Intertextuality on the go. I have Ulysses in my Kindle, but the two hundred page mark seems right for my headspace at the moment. Also the idea of transitive writing with multiple steps in the immediately experienced, like much of modernism. I tried reading Donna Tartt's The Goldfinch, but while beautiful and romantically written it was too much for me in that's all it seemed it was.
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Feb 10, 2019 14:22
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Feb 10, 2019 18:51
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Mrenda posted:I don't know what to read. I've finished Mrs Dalloway and To The Lighthouse, along with Powers of Horror and The Collected Schizophrenias in non-fiction, and have two academic textbooks on Modernism and Postmodernism, and Intertextuality on the go. I have Ulysses in my Kindle, but the two hundred page mark seems right for my headspace at the moment. Also the idea of transitive writing with multiple steps in the immediately experienced, like much of modernism. I tried reading Donna Tartt's The Goldfinch, but while beautiful and romantically written it was too much for me in that's all it seemed it was. try A Regicide by Alain Robbe-Grillet, Thomas Bernhard or Laszlo Krasznahorkai.
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Feb 10, 2019 19:01
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Mrenda posted:the idea of transitive writing with multiple steps in the immediately experienced you'd probably enjoy william faulkner (start with as i lay dying). but the corncob vernacular turns some people off him.
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Feb 10, 2019 20:38
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Sorry for the tease but I remembered I bought Ulysses when I got my kindle so I'm lumping into that right now. The introduction from some academic was too long so I skipped over the last half of it. This despite skimming a Kafka introduction once, seeing a bit about, "the kind of people who don't read introductions" skipping it, then never finishing The Castle.
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Feb 11, 2019 00:09
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not finishing the castle is what kafka would have wanted
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Feb 11, 2019 00:31
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CestMoi posted:not finishing the castle is what kafka would have wanted heh
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Feb 11, 2019 00:43
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CestMoi posted:not finishing the castle is what kafka would have wanted Even without the funny of not finishing a book the writer didn't finish I was just thinking, "The only winning move is to not play." Which is something I didn't feel with The Trial. My enduring memory of The Castle is just thinking, "Be happy with what you have" something I know K couldn't do because he was pushed by his mission. So I decided to end the madness of circling down a book of madness that is The Castle and go madly about my own world. With the Trial there was a threat that meant he had to keep going, and so me.
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Feb 11, 2019 00:44
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Foul Fowl posted:you'd probably enjoy william faulkner (start with as i lay dying). but the corncob vernacular turns some people off him. I never understood why Magical Realism never fluorished in the states despite being invented there by Faulkner
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Feb 11, 2019 17:47
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Pacho posted:I never understood why Magical Realism never fluorished in the states despite being invented there by Faulkner what
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Feb 11, 2019 17:49
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now that's a post
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Feb 11, 2019 18:12
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Pacho posted:I never understood why Magical Realism never fluorished in the states despite being invented there by Faulkner 
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Feb 11, 2019 18:34
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Mel Mudkiper posted:what I had a lit teacher that kinda had something against GGM and argued that he based Macondo on Faulkner's oeuvre and Yoknapatawpha specifically. She made parallels between Colonels Sartoris and Aureliano Buendía, etc.
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Feb 11, 2019 19:42
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sorry about your racist teacher
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Feb 11, 2019 20:22
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chernobyl kinsman posted:sorry about your racist teacher Pacho posted:I don't know what's going on in the U.S. but here in latin america the school curriculum ease us into reading with age appropiate "fun" literature.
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Feb 11, 2019 20:27
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That's not the first time I've seen the idea espoused. Just seems like whitewashing to me, even if Faulkner counts among Marquez' influences. Macondo shares some superficial similarities with rural American towns, what a loving surprise.
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Feb 11, 2019 20:27
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magic realism is a uniquely latin-american thing, and gently caress any teacher that tries to say otherwise, lest he challenges the idea that only Great White Men are brilliant
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Feb 11, 2019 20:42
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Pacho posted:I had a lit teacher that kinda had something against GGM and argued that he based Macondo on Faulkner's oeuvre and Yoknapatawpha specifically. She made parallels between Colonels Sartoris and Aureliano Buendía, etc. That seems uncontroversial compared to what you said, that magic realism originated in the US, a distinctly different claim which makes no sense
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Feb 11, 2019 20:55
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The magic of Faulkner, is his prose!
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Feb 11, 2019 21:03
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Ok, from a quick google it is pretty clear that Faulkner was an acknowledged influence on Marquez but yeah almost nothing in Faulkner is "magical" in any sense that approaches "Magical Realism" except possibly the Bear
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Feb 11, 2019 21:08
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I don't think it's a racism thing. mdemone posted:That's not the first time I've seen the idea espoused. Just seems like whitewashing to me, even if Faulkner counts among Marquez' influences. Macondo shares some superficial similarities with rural American towns, what a loving surprise. ulvir posted:magic realism is a uniquely latin-american thing, and gently caress any teacher that tries to say otherwise, lest he challenges the idea that only Great White Men are brilliant Literature here in Latin America has moved beyond (even reacted against) magical realism and one of the reasons was this idea of conflating our realities with provincialism and magical thinking when that kind of stories could happen anywhere. If you're curious google the McOndo movement. My teacher was a realist and really into Mario Vargas Llosa who had a very public fallout with GGM. I do need to read more Faulkner, tho
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Feb 11, 2019 21:15
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Pacho posted:Literature here in Latin America has moved beyond (even reacted against) magical realism and one of the reasons was this idea of conflating our realities with provincialism and magical thinking when that kind of stories could happen anywhere. If you're curious google the McOndo movement. My teacher was a realist and really into Mario Vargas Llosa who had a very public fallout with GGM. I do need to read more Faulkner, tho yeah, by all means, I’m not trying to argue that MR is the only literary movement in latin-america or anything like that
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Feb 11, 2019 21:22
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I mean in Marquez’s memoirs he literally says Faulkner was an influence for Macondo but that isn’t at all related to magical realism as a genre or concept
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Feb 11, 2019 21:32
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ulvir posted:yeah, by all means, I’m not trying to argue that MR is the only literary movement in latin-america or anything like that Yeah, I just wanted to point out that my teacher wasn't a racist white woman dissing latin america literature, it was in the context of examining magical realism and other movements. Saying that Faulkner invented magical realism in the US was a cheeky half-joke in our college but I'm honestly sad that the form wasn't really exported to other settings (afaik) and was circumnscribed to the "latin american experience." For example, I think the ending of Birdman is 100% magical realism set in New York but Iñarritu is mexican so he probably has a similar literary background as other latin american artists
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Feb 11, 2019 21:43
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i’m going to be quite blasphemous now (bringing up something that’s not a book) but one of the new shows on Netflix, Russian Doll, seems really inspired by magic realism
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Feb 11, 2019 22:01
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isn't the master and margarita p much magical realism or does it get disqualified because the magic is actually Satan
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Feb 11, 2019 22:54
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Pacho posted:Yeah, I just wanted to point out that my teacher wasn't a racist white woman dissing latin america literature, it was in the context of examining magical realism and other movements. Saying that Faulkner invented magical realism in the US was a cheeky half-joke in our college but I'm honestly sad that the form wasn't really exported to other settings (afaik) and was circumnscribed to the "latin american experience." For example, I think the ending of Birdman is 100% magical realism set in New York but Iñarritu is mexican so he probably has a similar literary background as other latin american artists surely guys like rushdie are using magical realism in a non latin american context?
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Feb 11, 2019 23:06
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I also feel somewhat confident enough to call The Vegetarian by Han Kang and Life and death are wearing me out by Mo Yan magic realist books
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Feb 11, 2019 23:13
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ulvir posted:I also feel somewhat confident enough to call The Vegetarian by Han Kang and Life and death are wearing me out by Mo Yan magic realist books I'm reading Kangaroo Notebook and feel like it could also fit
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Feb 11, 2019 23:16
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A human heart posted:surely guys like rushdie are using magical realism in a non latin american context? I think a lot of this is a form v function v form and function combined debate. When I've seen people argue for only LA magical realism they're saying that the form and function both combine as a particular telling of LA struggles and colonialism. That just having the form of magical realism doesn't amount to magical realism. The function of dealing with LA colonialism wouldn't be magical realism without the magical parts. And magical realism addressing something outside of LA struggles wouldn't either. For me I'm trying to get into the ideas of modernism, where it was a particular form of writing, but most of it deals with the development of the person in relation to more freedoms in society (as seen in the early 20th century.) My wondering is if using the forms of modernism as a function to tackle not just the change in the person, but directly the inability to comprehend a society (from the perspective of the society being broken/scattered/disjointed) is enough to bring us into postmodernism.
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Feb 11, 2019 23:18
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ulvir posted:I also feel somewhat confident enough to call The Vegetarian by Han Kang and Life and death are wearing me out by Mo Yan magic realist books Eka Kurniawan is undoubtably magical realist and he is Indonesian There was also a vietnamese woman who usee the style but I cannot remember her name
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Feb 12, 2019 00:43
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Sorokin's Ice Trilogy is magical realism, fight me
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Feb 12, 2019 02:03
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Something tells me that decades after a movement has been born, it doesn't necessarily have to be bound to the same geographical location it came out of
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Feb 12, 2019 07:33
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Mrenda posted:For me I'm trying to get into the ideas of modernism, where it was a particular form of writing, but most of it deals with the development of the person in relation to more freedoms in society (as seen in the early 20th century.) My wondering is if using the forms of modernism as a function to tackle not just the change in the person, but directly the inability to comprehend a society (from the perspective of the society being broken/scattered/disjointed) is enough to bring us into postmodernism. to me, what brought about postmodernism in the arts and architecture, was a mix of rejecting the modernist notion that there was a sharp divide between what was considered art and not, and a rejection of the modernist notion that they had to do away with traditions. note: this is super oversimplified, but it very much is just a continuation in many other respects (we wouldn’t have the world of art that we have today, were it not for the early dadaists and the later popart, for instance)
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Feb 12, 2019 10:56
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Pacho posted:I never understood why Magical Realism never fluorished in the states despite being invented there by Faulkner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_realism#Origins
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Feb 13, 2019 08:32
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drat, i bet the dude who went to school in latin america wasn't expecting this wikipedia link
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A human heart posted:drat, i bet the dude who went to school in latin america wasn't expecting this wikipedia link I'm shocked
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