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I meant more that the Allied player wouldn't actually play more than a turn at most, just that they'd unfuck what AI decisions they could.
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I could take over the Allied position! I have no idea how to play the game, but I promise I would order every ship in my fleet to battle the Tokyo Bay Fortress. I think this is acceptable because then everyone would be getting a slightly more effective AI, while Grey racks up big kill numbers as I accidentally run all my ships out of gas.
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Hey, I was talking to my wife about WWII naval history and got her interested in the Battle of Midway. What's the best documentary out there to watch on it?
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Cantorsdust posted:Hey, I was talking to my wife about WWII naval history and got her interested in the Battle of Midway. What's the best documentary out there to watch on it? read shattered sword
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Mycroft Holmes posted:read shattered sword
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The John Ford one isn't bad but the revelations from Shattered Sword throw a lot of the documentary narratives into weird places.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:read shattered sword out loud, to her
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Mycroft Holmes posted:read shattered sword Shattered Sword isn't light reading but goes in extreme depth especially as an AAR. I'd liken it to getting an NFL playbook, scouting report, call signs ect after the game is over. It's great for some but for many, probably this case, is too much. The hypothesis, highlighted points, and the conclusion are all you need. So start reading.
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Reuben Sandwich posted:This or wait to see what Montemayor's Midway video is like whenever he finishes it. Shattered sword IS light reading. In terms of mil history, they get ALOT denser then that. Ever read Erickson? His "Road to Berlin" book is some 1200 pages, full of the driest "XXXth battatlion fought at Y place..." and goes for 10 pages about it to where you get all the battles, men, divisions and whatnot confused as gently caress.
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Roland Emmerich is also working on a Midway movie. IMDB lists the cast as: Patrick Wilson as Edwin Layton, one of the two intelligence officers (Joe Rochefort being the other) that broke the Japanese codes that tipped off the US that the next target was Midway Woody Harrelson as Chester Nimitz Luke Evans as Wade McCluskey, the commander of Enterprise's Dauntless dive bomber squadron. He missed the Kaga narrowly during his own attack run, but it was McClusky's decision to chase after the destroyer Arashi's wake that lead his planes straight to the Japanese carriers. Saint Celestine posted:Shattered sword IS light reading. In terms of mil history, they get ALOT denser then that. Ever read Erickson? His "Road to Berlin" book is some 1200 pages, full of the driest "XXXth battatlion fought at Y place..." and goes for 10 pages about it to where you get all the battles, men, divisions and whatnot confused as gently caress. David Glantz and Jonathan House recently released a book on Stalingrad that summarizes the whole campaign in a single volume, since their first attempt ballooned into a four-volume saga, and even this Cliff's Notes take is still chock full of "... and then the 151st, 203rd, and 96th Infantry Division fought the 12th and 9th Rifle Corps and 3rd Tank Corps" and comes in at 640 pages. gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Saint Celestine posted:Shattered sword IS light reading. In terms of mil history, they get ALOT denser then that. Ever read Erickson? His "Road to Berlin" book is some 1200 pages, full of the driest "XXXth battatlion fought at Y place..." and goes for 10 pages about it to where you get all the battles, men, divisions and whatnot confused as gently caress. Cantorsdust posted:Hey, I was talking to my wife about WWII naval history and got her interested in the Battle of Midway. What's the best documentary out there to watch on it?
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Aaaaa I've read Shattered Sword already, that's what got me talking to her in the first place. But there's no way I'm going to get her to read it. That's why I was hoping for a documentary. I looked a few online but none of them went into any of the interesting details about force dispositions, differences in military doctrine, differences in damage control doctrine, the details of the sorties, etc. I was disappointed.
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habeasdorkus posted:I meant more that the Allied player wouldn't actually play more than a turn at most, just that they'd unfuck what AI decisions they could. This doesn't work. Anytime the AI "takes over" from a human player it teleports a bunch of ships and units around, so it would just go back to broken troop convoys sailing into the waiting guns of the IJN the next turn.
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   We've not seen this in a while.   Time for some cleanup.  We stray into range of their ground based assets.  Lots of crippled, but no confirmed kills.  There we go.   A much quieter day.  Only one kill. Plus three old ones.  This resupply mission is going rather well, don't you think?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Roland Emmerich is also working on a Midway movie.
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9 February 1945 Another Japanese escort, No. 61 this time, is totaled by a mine strike on the Indochinese coast.
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Your pilots are getting really good at bringing the superforts down. Suppose when you hit the summer and they start bringing them by the bucketload from Europe you'll be ready!
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Grey Hunter posted:
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frankenfreak posted:Expecting a lot of historical accuracy and insight from this! I hope so, the latest Dunkirk movie was a disaster on the historical accuracy aspect.
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Grey Hunter posted:
Well, that's some excellent foreshadowing.
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Or these guys are just behind the death wind of my carriers, and safe.
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I don't really want a human taking control of the allied side for long, i just want someone or something to gather a decent allied fleet so that Grey can do one last large scale naval mission before the game ends. At this point allied CAP should be tremendous but the japanese air forces are super experienced and they still have intact fleets available. It would be incredible to see.
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Grey should invade Hawaii the day before the end of the game triggers.
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  I add another wave of hulk to my tally.   My plane numbers drop mid upgrade.  Combat efficiency remains unaffected.  It's murder out there.  And it feels gooooood.
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Why is a coastal patrol ship worth 9 points?
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Flavius Aetass posted:Why is a coastal patrol ship worth 9 points? Because it's one of these.
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I wonder if we have the naval equivalent of Mark Clark in this time. Just replace Rome with Rabaul.
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And that sunk ship, Taney, is last remaining combat ship from Pearl Harbour still afloat in OTL.
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Goddamn, that's some murder.
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How many times has Cabot silently, secretly slipped under the lapping waves, supposedly awarding her sweet points, only to resurface and continue to do nothing to the IJN?
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mercenarynuker posted:How many times has Cabot silently, secretly slipped under the lapping waves, supposedly awarding her sweet points, only to resurface and continue to do nothing to the IJN? 4~ish, I think?
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3 days, 4 convoys. The press gangs are sweeping the streets of America with weapons at the ready. They know that if they fail, it is they who must face a trip to the bottom.
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The Cabot is actually an experimental submarine aircraft carrier
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vyelkin posted:The Cabot is actually an experimental submarine aircraft carrier I thought that was strictly a Japanese and French thing. Speaking of which, did my lucky ship I-400 ever actually get built Grey?
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The Grey Ghost of Greyverse is the Cabot.
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Flavius Aetass posted:Why is a coastal patrol ship worth 9 points? The Treasury-class cutters are basically destroyer escorts painted in coast guard colors.
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Cantorsdust posted:Aaaaa I've read Shattered Sword already, that's what got me talking to her in the first place. But there's no way I'm going to get her to read it. That's why I was hoping for a documentary. I looked a few online but none of them went into any of the interesting details about force dispositions, differences in military doctrine, differences in damage control doctrine, the details of the sorties, etc. I was disappointed. Watch the movie "Midway" or even "Tora! Tora! Tora!". They are still relevant movies that are watchable today.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:This doesn't work. Anytime the AI "takes over" from a human player it teleports a bunch of ships and units around, so it would just go back to broken troop convoys sailing into the waiting guns of the IJN the next turn. Aww, that's too bad. I was hoping the human player could at least put together a major CV force that could aim to defeat the enemy in one decisive stroke!
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  One day, one of these will be loaded.  I'm still bombing here btw.  An effective enemy strike! Shock!  With no air cover, there is nothing they can do to stop me here.  Another day of killing.  My own ship was sniped by a superfortress in Saigon.
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