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oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

franglaterre nevada is silly because they got it due to border contiguity from the north (iirc), which just doesn't make logistical sense imo. so there's a game engine artifact built into this, but what are you gonna do

at this point in real history California was one of the leading oil producers in the world, SF and LA had aqueducts to Yosemite and the Owens Valley, the Okies were harvesting so many crops the government had to burn them in the middle of the great depression (see grapes of wrath), and a fuckload of hydropower is gonna show up in cascadia soon. but maybe the region just hasn't had the labor and capital invested in it that it had irl?

also, has economical air conditioning been invented yet? that could matter for Las Vegas and other places like Florida

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SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I suppose it's because of how the AI calculates targets for wars, neither Albionora or Ibriz ever thought they could take France on, despite the logistics working against France. I suppose the lust for the northwest passage was kinda lacking in this timeline.

I don't suppose Victoria 2 models the Indian wars either, which would leave the whole midwest region stable as a rock, whereas in the real world it was where most US troops were stationed, like other colonial fronts. I don't even think America's system of managing Native American nations even makes sense in a North America that stayed so fractured for so long.

Does Victoria 2 model the whole deal where wealthy landowners tried to destroy small communities in order to expand? Because it seems like something that's pretty important to the internal politics throughout the new world, and probably doable with pops, but may also count as uncomfortable crimes against humanity that the game tries to avoid.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Nah, sadly v2 doesn't do terribly much with internal colonization. Best you get is native pops being drowned out and parceled by floods of immigrants into the land.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
V2's handling of the US is honestly hot garbage

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Sampatrick posted:

V2's handling of the US is honestly hot garbage

Yeah vanilla v2 is good at simulating European politics and pretty much that. It's capabilities in other areas are lacking to save the least.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

as a damnyankee nation we gain several bonuses

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

Playing the US in V2 is an exercise in patience what with all the God drat pop-ups.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
Playing v2 is an exercise in waiting

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
Okay, so for my own convenience, here's the list of generals/ministers so far:

Mahja al-Isbiliyya - minister/admiral in People's Republic of Ibriz
Tariq al-Dhib - general for Iberian Union
Aljadid Almiriykh - general/admiral/minister in Iberian Union
Al-Siriyi Design Bureau - for People's Republic of Ibriz
Patrick Ledbetter - general for New England
Amir Al-Qatat - general for Waono
Theophilus Aeromancia - general for New England
Ibn Bibil III - general for Iberian Union
Jovan Dreissi - general for Balkan Federation
Lidija Dreissi - female general for Balkan Federation
Jalb Al-Ahmaq (Abu Hamaqatan) - infrastructure minister for Iberian Union
William Anderson - minister for New England
Ali Al-Jayin - general for Iberian Union
Filib Al-Kabsh the Third - admiral for Iberian Union
Commissar Mukhtar - minister for iberian Union
Lysander Weuste - general for socialist Germany
Gabriel-Jacques de Salignac de La Motte - general for Francia
Al-Thalassi - admiral for Iberian Union
Al-rusim khataan taht-Impy - minister in Iberian Union
Tiqnu al-Dhib - general in Iberian Union
Ghalib Sabah al-Daniyyah - admiral in Iberian Union
Reza Habib - general/admiral/minister in Iberian Union
Samak al Mahar - nuclear scientist for Berber Union
Franz von Frick - general/admiral/minister for any Germany
Shahm Alkhinzir - minister in Iberian Union
Daniel Glands - minister in New England
Habib al-Salaan - general/admiral/minister in Benin/Kongo
Peter Irving - general for New England
Hasa Al-Yawm - general/admiral/minister for any Ibriz
Mario Pato - minister in Iberian Union
Ricardo Etxeberria - general for Iberian Union
Friederich Neumann - general for communist Germany
Meurt Froid - general for Francia
Ivan Draggo - general/admiral/minister in Russia
Walid al-Layun - general/admiral/minister in Iberian Union
Amur Pavlov - general for Russia
Giuseppe Calabrese - general/minister in Provence
Lenivaya Zmeya - general/admiral/minister in Russia
Robert Morrow - minister in New England
Rev. Ailes - minister in democratic/socialist England/Francia
Hafez Nagar - general for Almoravid Morocco
Yves-Marcel le Tombe - general for Francia
Nadiyah al-Khattab - general/admiral/minister in Iberian Union
Mirza al-Din - general/admiral/minister in Iberian Union
Sabah Didi - female general for Iberian Union
Finsint Al-Ubwassumi - propaganda minister in Iberian Union
Alwan al-Almania the IVth - general/minister in Islamic Republic of Ibriz
Matilda Gießwein - general for communist Germany
Franciszek Ryba - general for Russia
Otto von Schattenburg - general for liberal Germany
Andrei Vyelkin - general/admiral/minister in Russia
Alberto Alface - general for Iberian Union
Tybalt Tenpenny - minister in New England
Paul Popper - general/minister in socialist/liberal Germany
Suhail al-Baas - general/admiral/minister in Berber Union/any Ibriz
Clay Ó Cuilinn - supreme leader of Celtic Union
Aslan Resulbegovic - general/admiral/minister in Balkan Union
Nur al-Zear - general/admiral/minister in Almoravid Raj
Ka'baald al-Shujae III - general for Iberian Union
Vernon Fenton IV (plus traits) - general for New England
Faras al-Nabiu - admiral for Iberian Union


paragon1 - general for Russia
Jihad Joe - general for People's Republic of Ibriz
Ralepozozaxe - general for Iberian Union
ThatBasqueGuy - general for People's Republic of Ibriz
Lord Cyrahzax - general for Islamic Republic of Ibriz
Jack2142 - general for Khedivate
Super Jay Mann - general for Berber Union
WereVolvo - general/admiral/minister in Iberian Union
Red John - general in Iberian Union


I'll give it another run through later if I missed something, but let me know if I messed yours up. If anyone else wants to add themselves, feel free, because this will be the last thing I add to the mod.

Also, I actually like a few of these names, so I'm probably gonna use a couple of them as country leaders instead.

hashashash fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Feb 16, 2019

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Might as well chuck me in, I've even got a username that sounds Russian already. Andrei Vyelkin can be a general or admiral or leader or whatever you need.

Average Lettuce
Oct 22, 2012


I'd like Alberto Alface, a Portuguese general (or whatever you need) in the Iberian Union.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Jalb Al-Ahmaq is hella ready to keep this revolution rolling, can't you tell?

Tybalt
Jul 19, 2013
If you still New English ministers then put me down as Tybalt Tenpenny, some posh and misguided fop who takes credit for the work of his subordinates.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
I wanted to NOT be Iberian Union for Habib Al-Salaan. I think making him an ex-pat to Benin (or Khedive) as anything would be fine

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009
Could you do a Paul Popper - a non-fascist German or Austrian something?

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I'd like to be in as Shal al-Baas for anywhere in Gharbia

Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Feb 13, 2019

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

Slaan posted:

I wanted to NOT be Iberian Union for Habib Al-Salaan. I think making him an ex-pat to Benin (or Khedive) as anything would be fine

Oops, fixed.

Clayren
Jun 4, 2008

grandma plz don't folow me on twiter its embarassing, if u want to know what animes im watching jsut read the family newsletter like normal
Put me down for a Commie in the Celtic Union. I'm guessing they have Gaelic as a primary language given the many years of Celtic Union independence, so I can be Clay Ó Cuilinn in the Celtic Union.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

Put me down in the Balkan Union as Aslan Resulbegovic.

Jesenjin
Nov 12, 2011

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

Put me down in the Balkan Union as Aslan Resulbegovic.

Why would a Persian named person with Muslim Slavic patronimic surname be in Balkan Union, where there wasn't any major Muslim invasion and foothold like the Ottomans in our timeline?
But Aslan Resulbey, an exile/adventurer/what ever else fits the bill from Anatolian Republic, I can see that happening.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

Jesenjin posted:

Why would a Persian named person with Muslim Slavic patronimic surname be in Balkan Union, where there wasn't any major Muslim invasion and foothold like the Ottomans in our timeline?
But Aslan Resulbey, an exile/adventurer/what ever else fits the bill from Anatolian Republic, I can see that happening.

You know, I wasn't really thinking of the implications of the in-game lore and history. I just wanted to put my cousins name in the videogame because it would be cool.

But that name is fine too.

fucking love Fiona Apple fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Feb 13, 2019

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Jesenjin posted:

Why would a Persian named person with Muslim Slavic patronimic surname be in Balkan Union, where there wasn't any major Muslim invasion and foothold like the Ottomans in our timeline?
But Aslan Resulbey, an exile/adventurer/what ever else fits the bill from Anatolian Republic, I can see that happening.

People were allowed to live outside their ethnic-designated territories before the invention of Globalism.

Also add Nur al-Zear to the Moroccan Raj's officer corps.

ZearothK fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Feb 13, 2019

Jesenjin
Nov 12, 2011

ZearothK posted:

People were allowed to live outside their ethnic-designated territories before the invention of Globalism.


It's not ethnicity I have most issue with. It is rather that begović part in the surname wouldn't exist in this timeline, as there would be any need to translinate it from turkish into slavic language.

Dreissi
Feb 14, 2007

:dukedog:
College Slice

Hashim posted:


Jovan Dreissi - general for Balkan Federation


Can I change this to Lidija Dreissi? World could use more female characters, especially in more liberal or communist countries.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Xelkelvos posted:

I'd like to be in as Suhail al-Baas for anywhere in Gharbia

Edit to the above to make it a first name that is actually real rather than one that merely looks real.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

Dreissi posted:

Can I change this to Lidija Dreissi? World could use more female characters, especially in more liberal or communist countries.

Sure, done.

The Bold Kobold
Aug 11, 2014

Bold to the point of certain death.
Ka'baald al-Shujae III rides again for Iberia!

...At least, I think they're the third now.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Hashim posted:

Al-Qatat - general for Waono

I should probably give this dude a first name, unless you already did. Amir Al-Qatat?

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Also, in case my dude becomes important somehow, his kunya is Abu Hamaqatan.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Is there some sort of name generator ya'll use or what? I don't really care what my Admiral is called.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Mantis42 posted:

Is there some sort of name generator ya'll use or what? I don't really care what my Admiral is called.

I've been using google translate for terrible, terrible translations. Habeas Corpus in Arabic comes to something like "order to fetch the person" in google translate. Swap person (corpus/body) with dork and you end up with Fetch the Foolish, Jalb al-Ahmaq (not ideal, but Ahmaq is closer in sound to a name). Abu Hamaqatan is your basic kunya in form (Abu is "father of" and is usually followed by either a son's name or a concept, e.g. Abu Bakr, "Father of the young camels" who was an early follower of Muhammad and later Caliph of the early Arab state who was called such because he raised camels) and means Father of the Folly/Stupidity.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Mine just means "Son of Bibil". What's his actual name? How can he be the Third with this format? Who knows?

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



Ibblebibble posted:

Mine just means "Son of Bibil". What's his actual name? How can he be the Third with this format? Who knows?

he's the third son of Bibil, clearly. Dad was real bad at coming up with names

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Ibblebibble posted:

Mine just means "Son of Bibil". What's his actual name? How can he be the Third with this format? Who knows?

Bibil ibn (Bibil ibn [Bibil ibn <Bibil>])

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

MaxieSatan posted:

Bibil ibn (Bibil ibn [Bibil ibn <Bibil>])

When we go into Stellaris I'm gonna be Ibn Bibil^40

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
If we get to Stellaris we need the evil human polity to be based on Almoravid Morocco, and make them fanatic purifiers.

Vinny Possum
Sep 21, 2015

THUNDERDOME LOSER

habeasdorkus posted:

If we get to Stellaris we need the evil human polity to be based on Almoravid Morocco, and make them fanatic purifiers.

Nah, Slaving Despots

(i think that's an ai personality, it's been a while since I played)

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Vinny Possum posted:

Nah, Slaving Despots

(i think that's an ai personality, it's been a while since I played)

That's more accurate. And I think it is an AI type.

pinchofginger
Nov 7, 2009
Fallen Rib
Vernon Fenton IV - New English General, reporting for duty. Preferably with the traits "Politically Connected", "Reckless" and "Inflexible Strategist"

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hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
So I started the first test game, and jesus christ Asia's a mess -



Also, rip commie ibriz



and egypt



and europe

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