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onesixtwo
Apr 27, 2014

Don't you realize that being nice just makes you get hurt?
I know i've already posted a couple times but yeah. If i was in a raid group, i'd absolutely push for Selos over Mangler / any other TLP at the moment. More rare spawns? Reduced instance lockouts? Less exp grinding? The raiding schedule for Selos is going to be absolutely intense for some guilds, badly so knowing they'll have four eras worth of targets to hit right away.

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Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

I will be surprised if they don't bump the 1 month unlock schedule before launching it. It's way to loving obvious that one month is too short

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


1 month basically means 3 months of PoP, doesn't it? Between that and 6 weeks of Luclin to start with faster exp I think it'll work out fine for a while.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

Republicans posted:

1 month basically means 3 months of PoP, doesn't it? Between that and 6 weeks of Luclin to start with faster exp I think it'll work out fine for a while.

For awhile..

Eccles
Feb 6, 2010
Why even bother with 1 month unlocks at all on Selo? If they had opened all expansions at launch with everything else the same they might have had something.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Tai posted:

For awhile..

They can always bump it up to 6-8 weeks after GoD unlocks if there's enough demand for it.

God those exp rates sound so good, though. I remember having so much fun just messing around with other classes on Ragefire during an exp bonus event I ended up trying out dual boxing for the first time and leveling a druid to go with my mage in almost no time at all. I might actually give rangers a try since I won't have to suffer three eras of being a lovely melee with some spells.

Did they ever nerf PoP-era Headshot? I remember that being absolutely silly during my time in Agnarr.

Republicans fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Feb 13, 2019

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
I think the demand is already there heh

Krazuel
Nov 23, 2004

Not doing that again!
Amtrak is recruiting for Selos.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/amtrak-selo-server-tl-aos-ri-leadership.254359/

=P, mostly not goons, but just as grognard and goony, generally not casual.

Krazuel fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Feb 13, 2019

onesixtwo
Apr 27, 2014

Don't you realize that being nice just makes you get hurt?

quote:

We are a hardcore guild. Formed for the sole purpose of being number 1 on the server. The leaders of this guild have crushed every guild they've gone against in all prior TLPs. This is the 20th anniversary guild of champions, all other guilds are just impersonating.

Casual Server looking good!

Krazuel
Nov 23, 2004

Not doing that again!
Yeah nothing casual about the selos server, and the other is just.. not a thing.

Dreaddor
Apr 7, 2006

Never thought I would consider playing a live server again.. I haven't played in about 7-8 years and i might not understand half of the things I read in the last few pages but I'll be damned if Selo's hasn't caught my eye. Having semi-fast travel with Luclin spires makes traveling not as daunting without diminishing the size of the world while the increased exp rate doesn't make the idea of playing seem like labor... gently caress

I might have to resub for this but only if there are enough goons. I wouldn't last long without a core group of like minded idiots to gchat with.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


I am gonna miss not progressing though classic/kunark/velious at least for even a little while, mostly for the various items that become unavailable later like the all/all dark elf illusion mask. If they can make stuff like that be available until PoP launches or something I think that would be great.

So has someone figured out the relative exp rates on all the servers yet? Almost twice as fast as Ragefire sounds like faster than most live servers and maybe closer to FV?

Republicans fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Feb 13, 2019

Krazuel
Nov 23, 2004

Not doing that again!
DE mask and some of the other stuff you can gamble for at the casino, and some other stuff a few expansions down the road from the noble vendor.

It would be nice if they put them in though.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


How could make a "hardcore" server not suck, BTW? I was thinking instead of slow exp you give it fast exp like Selos but as well as the increased exp penalty on death you reduce the amount of exp you can get back from a res.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

Republicans posted:


So has someone figured out the relative exp rates on all the servers yet? Almost twice as fast as Ragefire sounds like faster than most live servers and maybe closer to FV?

They said exp isn't as fast as live i.e where Phinny is right now

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

Republicans posted:

1 month basically means 3 months of PoP, doesn't it? Between that and 6 weeks of Luclin to start with faster exp I think it'll work out fine for a while.

Two months is likely if they open LoY with PoP (they've done this on every TLP server except Agnarr)

Hoohah
Jun 27, 2004
Chimp

Tai posted:

They said exp isn't as fast as live i.e where Phinny is right now

Phinigel has live-for-era rates...

Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009
Will be really interesting to see what guilds manage during the first month when its Luclin. Getting enough tanks geared enough to kill Emp Ssra will be a challenge.

The rest of Sssra is zergable but I can see lots of 60s running around in banded for a while !

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


I keep thinking I'll start with some other class every time a new progression server opens but I almost always end up playing a monk. Magician was fun when their pets were ridiculously overpowered.

Anarch
Feb 22, 2011

In the midnight hour...

Republicans posted:

How could make a "hardcore" server not suck, BTW? I was thinking instead of slow exp you give it fast exp like Selos but as well as the increased exp penalty on death you reduce the amount of exp you can get back from a res.

Hardcore: Just make Selo the hardcore server.
Casual: Just clone Selo with 2-3 month expansion unlocks. Maybe FV loot rules for easy mode.

Anarch fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Feb 13, 2019

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

Baconroll posted:

Will be really interesting to see what guilds manage during the first month when its Luclin. Getting enough tanks geared enough to kill Emp Ssra will be a challenge.

The rest of Sssra is zergable but I can see lots of 60s running around in banded for a while !

I think the cultural crafted plate is going to be huge for hardcore raiders here. The plate sets that are available in Luclin are extremely good, on par or better than Kael quested plate. Feed everything to one guild smith and crank out sets for every tank, then make a fortune selling it to other guilds who are behind the curve

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Solarin posted:

I think the cultural crafted plate is going to be huge for hardcore raiders here. The plate sets that are available in Luclin are extremely good, on par or better than Kael quested plate. Feed everything to one guild smith and crank out sets for every tank, then make a fortune selling it to other guilds who are behind the curve

Oh yeah, that's some good poo poo. I'm amazed large races can equip some of the human stuff, notably the rallos zek plate.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES
All I care about is that they upped Underfoot key drop rates.

I don't know why they couldn't just tell us they were going to do that forever ago, but at least it's happening.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

xZAOx posted:

All I care about is that they upped Underfoot key drop rates.

I don't know why they couldn't just tell us they were going to do that forever ago, but at least it's happening.

They did

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

Tai posted:

They did

Where?

There's a miles long thread of people asking with no response. All we ever got was "well when Phinny gets to Underfoot, we'll have a community discussion" forever ago.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

Some guy on the forums posted that a dev PM'd him saying they would fix it. Not sure if that's what tai means

FranktheBank
May 14, 2007
In the beginning...the universe was created. his has been widely regarded as a bad move and has made a lot of people very angry.
I think Selos lockout time will just result in more "back in the day feel" where there was really only 1-2 guild pushing cutting edge content and the vast majority were doing 1-3 expac old stuff. Also having the option to skip from velious raids to PoP raids and not have to do VT slogfest for "progression".

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

Solarin posted:

Some guy on the forums posted that a dev PM'd him saying they would fix it. Not sure if that's what tai means

Yeah, I had even commented about that here, that hardly counted heh. "HE TELL ME" doesn't carry much weight, especially when Prathun could've just posted.

Doctor Party
Jan 3, 2004

Doctor Party Woohoo!
So how long until someone is sixty on new server? Is this like an under 24 hours thing? What's the strategy for extreme early game power leveling?

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Yea it’s within 24 hours. People are insane and have no life.

They get a group of 6 or more people who sit down and play nonstop and poop in socks, etc.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

I'd guess the goal is to hit the point where they can just barely survive AE in the deep or velks and then lock down every pick of it to power level the poo poo out of a whole guild/people who are paying you for PLing. It will go insanely fast with AEing and 50% xp potions, and the anniversary xp bonus they probably will have

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

Republicans posted:

1 month basically means 3 months of PoP, doesn't it? Between that and 6 weeks of Luclin to start with faster exp I think it'll work out fine for a while.

A dev posted recently that right now it's planned as one month for all three, so your post is right

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
The lack of spells 50+ while trying to get to 60 ASAP is going to be funny. Then having to go farm seb juggs for spells too.

suuma
Apr 2, 2009
Well, spell Research.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

suuma posted:

Well, spell Research.

Thought they tweaked research so some spells could only be researched after X amount of expansions were released. Agnarr is PoP locked yet you can only research classic spells.

Also research is a chore. Racers won't be able to do both.

Peechka
Nov 10, 2005

Tai posted:

Thought they tweaked research so some spells could only be researched after X amount of expansions were released. Agnarr is PoP locked yet you can only research classic spells.

Also research is a chore. Racers won't be able to do both.

They can feed one guy an entire guild worth of drops every day to make spells. The same poo poo will happen with Luclin era plate for tanks, all you need is one crafter being fed mats by entire guild.

suuma
Apr 2, 2009

Tai posted:

Thought they tweaked research so some spells could only be researched after X amount of expansions were released. Agnarr is PoP locked yet you can only research classic spells.

Also research is a chore. Racers won't be able to do both.

You can't research some Luclin spells during Luclin (so like, KEI and RGC are drop only) but it opens up after PoP.

I don't know what the actual expansion by expansion cut off is.

suuma fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Feb 14, 2019

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

I want to say 50-59 kunark spells are researchable during that era. The 60 spells are restricted by a drop that only is available in Luclin. During Luclin my guild was able to craft several of the wizard nuke from Emp.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
How come Agnarr can only research classic spells and nothing else? Is this just limited to Agnarr?

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Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009
I guess on the Selos server Magician epics will be really rare - with classic being skipped pretty much no-one will bother doing sky. I can't see many guilds wanting to spend the time keying all the way up the 7th island.

I know a single group of luclin era players could kill the mobs that drop the crown of elemental mastery so it certainly can be farmed, but its debatable whether a single boxed group could key themselves.

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