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Cardiovorax posted:Kenshi.txt Another thing to add - resist the temptation to savescum. I know I couldn't resist the urge when I started thievin', but after recruiting a decent posse in Shark and trying to snatch some blades from the Hounds, I decided instead of reloading that I would hightail it out of there with my new group of low-level/extremely specialized recruits. My ninja took an arrow to the gut, but we managed to book it relatively unscathed. The person I tried to steal from would not let that grudge go, however, so once they chased us into the middle of the swamp we turned around and beat them senseless. Now we're going to carry their unconscious body around in case we need to leave some snacks in order to escape some hungry critters. None of this would've happened if I save scummed just to snatch that stupid high-quality horse chopper, and I would've been poorer for it.
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LuiCypher posted:Another thing to add - resist the temptation to savescum. I know I couldn't resist the urge when I started thievin', but after recruiting a decent posse in Shark and trying to snatch some blades from the Hounds, I decided instead of reloading that I would hightail it out of there with my new group of low-level/extremely specialized recruits. My ninja took an arrow to the gut, but we managed to book it relatively unscathed. The person I tried to steal from would not let that grudge go, however, so once they chased us into the middle of the swamp we turned around and beat them senseless. Now we're going to carry their unconscious body around in case we need to leave some snacks in order to escape some hungry critters. Yeah, I fell into the habit of savescumming on my first run through. It's much better to just let the game play out.
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Feb 12, 2019 21:29
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Yeah, Kenshi actually is a bit like Dwarf Fortress, Shadow of War or Rimworld that way. It's the craziness that comes from taking your hits and dealing with the consequences that makes for the best stories.
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I was sorely tempted to save scum when I made my trip to and from Mongrel to find Señor Beep and somehow managed to lose two tank characters to Fogmen. I feel like Fogmen must use stealth because I was keeping a close eye on my group and only realized people were missing when the jailed icon showed up over their portrait. It was eerie. Oh well, I guess Beep gets to be a tank!
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Feb 12, 2019 23:22
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I had to save scum when I was trying to escape the swamp with 10 guys and 12 spiders rushed us. Limbs flew everywhere and within about 10 seconds my whole squad was being eaten alive.
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Feb 13, 2019 05:08
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The less bullshit blood spider range mod is the greatest. Why does something that can do like 120 damage to a vital body part have such huge range?
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Feb 14, 2019 17:40
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Now the Fog Islands Dramatic Society performs their reenactment of the Battle of Pearl Harbor.
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it's really fascinating how the world of kenshi has re-invented everything from cybernetic limbs to hydroponic farming, but no one has figured out what a wheel is or what they're good for. nope, just gonna slog all my trade goods in a backpack, like a schlub.
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jfood posted:it's really fascinating how the world of kenshi has re-invented everything from cybernetic limbs to hydroponic farming, but no one has figured out what a wheel is or what they're good for. What I really want, is to line the UC and Holy Nation slaver routes with IEDs.
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I'm on the fence about getting Kenshi, everytime I read about this game I have the urges to get it but I've never been good with sandbox games. As far as I've seen, the game seems really slow and it appears you need a lot of real time hours to get anything going on, is that true? Or it does have some ways to speed things up?
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There are mods that do things like include a universal XP multiplier or purchasable research items that you can normally only find in ruins. Kenshi is a game that is very easy to play at the pace you want it to, not least because there are so many different ways to play it. Just getting a group of guys and roaming around beating stuff up is not very time intensive, but even building a whole base is something you can do in a single afternoon. Don't get me wrong, there's certainly a bit of a time investment involved, but it's not MMO grade. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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Feb 16, 2019 14:23
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There's plenty to do just exploring the world at low levels, you level athletics fairly fast, so soon you will be able to run from everything. Reaching Endgame can take a while, but you don't have to reach endgame to have something to do. Think of it like you would of Dwarf Fortress in that regard. Except Beak Things, you can't run from Beak Things. Drag them into someone else so they become their problem instead.
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Angry Lobster posted:I'm on the fence about getting Kenshi, everytime I read about this game I have the urges to get it but I've never been good with sandbox games. As far as I've seen, the game seems really slow and it appears you need a lot of real time hours to get anything going on, is that true? Or it does have some ways to speed things up? It has a demo! Get the demo, see if you like it!
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Nice, I'll give it a try, I don't mind a little grind now and then, I've played plenty of roguelikes and rpgs, but it's not my main focus.StrixNebulosa posted:It has a demo! Get the demo, see if you like it! Oh, missed that, it's so rare nowadays for games to have proper demos, sometimes I miss the 90's.
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Feb 16, 2019 15:43
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It's a pretty good demo. You can basically play forever, but your stats only go to a max of 20 out of 100. If you just want to see what the content is like, it's great.
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I bought it once, didn't get it the first time out and refunded. then, you know, tried it again... then bought it again and love it.
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A lot of starter guides encourage turtling up and collecting ore to gradually acquire funds, which is valid, but I had more fun sneaking into cannibal-infested ruins and grabbing all the tech before they woke up and ate me.
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Before downloading the demo I'm watching some let's plays in youtube (one of them by the clinically insane Robbaz) and I'm having a blast 
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Yeah don’t just park on a copper vein like I did on my first run. It’s reliable but boring. Sneak through a town to build up your stealth, and start grabbing everything that isn’t nailed down. Soon you’ll be cracking safes and nabbing tens of thousands worth and then you can pretty much go do anything.
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I'd personally recommend tagging along a friendly group, like Shek Kingdom patrols or a trade Caravan, and then just "helping" them out in combat while nabbing whatever you can from the attackers.
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Yeah, that's a legitimate strategy and a bit more fun than basically doing the same by spawn camping bandits near a city gate. Plus, you'll get to see the world and develop a feeling for where all the cities are. I definitely do not recommend ore mining as an early game strategy. It's really a trap that will just ruin your enjoyment of the game, because it takes forever for only marginal gains.
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You can also just use a custom start so you have better skills and some basic equipment to start.
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Also, the in-game editor that lets you spawn literally anything. Although, at that point, you're not really playing the game anymore.
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Power Walrus posted:Yeah don’t just park on a copper vein like I did on my first run. It’s reliable but boring. Sneak through a town to build up your stealth, and start grabbing everything that isn’t nailed down. Soon you’ll be cracking safes and nabbing tens of thousands worth and then you can pretty much go do anything. Eh, I find clicking all around to sneak and steal, managing the stuff you steal in your inventory and leveling up the necessary skills way more tedious than just building a copper storage then automating people on a node while you watch TV or something. Plus bandits and stuff will walk by so your guys will get combat experience at the same time. Once you're strong enough to go loot ruins the money you make from stealing is paltry in comparison too so it doesn't continue to be useful like laboring will. But that's my opinion, some people may like roleplaying a thief.
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Stealing is so powerful that I'd say it's only allowed if you don't savescum 
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Cardiovorax posted:It really isn't, you just have to know what to steal. Hauls of 60k+ are perfectly possible if you pick the right kind of store. That equates to about 500 chunks of copper. Yeah a single trip to the limb store is equal to like weeks worth of mining.
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^You don't mine to buy stuff like 20k limbs obviouslyCardiovorax posted:It really isn't, you just have to know what to steal. Hauls of 60k+ are perfectly possible if you pick the right kind of store. That equates to about 500 chunks of copper. After you've leveled up skills that aren't used for any other purpose by tediously micromanaging a character, sure. I'd rather get some starting money on copper then go loot some beak thing eggs or technology when my guys get tough enough. I mean currently I can and do just walk into a town with my guys and take out all the guards in combat. I don't bother looting the junk in town because the time it would take to go around doing that isn't even worth the money it'd produce. GokuGoesSSj69 fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:After you've leveled up skills that aren't used for any other purpose by tediously micromanaging a character, sure. I'd rather get some starting money on copper then go loot some beak thing eggs or technology when my guys get tough enough. That said, breaking into a store at night and lifting a box full of chain sheets is something you can do at basically any skill level, really, and they sell for nearly 2k per.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:^You don't mine to buy stuff like 20k limbs obviously I meant stealing wise. A single chest in there is equal the weeks worth of mining income so why waste your time mining for money.
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Cardiovorax posted:I find it a lot less tedious than sitting around waiting for the game to finish generating money for me. I mean, at that point, you might as well use the editor and save on electricity costs by skipping over the wait entirely. It's not like you're really having fun playing the game anyway. No, I wouldn't be having fun it I was micromanaging a guy sneaking around and stealing stuff. Might as well just use an editor at that point because no one can play the game differently than me  socialsecurity posted:I meant stealing wise. A single chest in there is equal the weeks worth of mining income so why waste your time mining for money. They get combat xp from wandering patrols at the same time you get money to buy whatever schematics you may need. It's not even like you need to be super rich. I'm sitting on 400k with nothing to spend it on and like I said I don't even really loot most things. GokuGoesSSj69 fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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If you don't want to start out stealing stuff or mining, hunting game (or making others hunt it for you) is a pretty good way of earning money earlygame. Skins are worth a fair bit, and the meat can keep you fed without having to spend on food (just build a camp fire to cook it). If you can find a Beak Thing Nest, you can make bank. Just drag someone else towards the nest to keep them occupied while you snag their eggs.
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Is people wanting to join you after breaking them out of a cannibal's pole something in the base game or would recruitable prisoners or reactive world? Someone approached me in the Flotsam Village after I freed them from cannibals and they are swole.as.gently caress. Like they're way too powerful for this to have been a vanilla event.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Might as well just use an editor at that point because no one can play the game differently than me I mean, if you dislike that phase of the game so much, it only makes sense to come up with some way to skip over it that involves actually playing the game, like a background that lets you start with cash monies right away. Seems only reasonable. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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Is it possible to instigate the Shek Kingdoms into fighting the UC after you've taken out the HN? I know I had the option for it when I brought the Bugmaster and got the alliance, but I chose the HN at the time, and now the leaders don't seem to have anything more to say to me.
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Is there a source where I can find all world state characters and their effects? I checked the wiki but they are all spread out amongst their related areas/content and there isn't one central location.
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Feb 16, 2019 23:12
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Obviously you mine with a few guys while a ninja runs around stealing everything and while you wait for shops to respawn you take the whole crew hungry bandits hunting while the ninja hides around the corner.
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Well... took my whole squad back to Squin to get some supplies I’d left behind, came back to find my outpost just totally gone. Even my buildings in progress with nothing added. I’m all for not save scumming, but I reloaded after that. 
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