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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Q: what do Magneto and Gilgamesh have in common?

A: Porn fanfic exists about them

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Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



I don't know how you guys talked about Landknechts without talking about their sense of fashion

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar
I'm the artificially padded masculinity

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I'm "circus-clown chic".

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
i got a pun

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pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Elyv posted:

I don't know how you guys talked about Landknechts without talking about their sense of fashion

In a movie I saw they had male civilians in the 1600s wear little metal bibs around their neck for fashion. Was this a thing? I know some other parts of high fashion were influenced by Landsknecht outfits. Like the slit sleeves were seen on many ladies dresses.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




pidan posted:

In a movie I saw they had male civilians in the 1600s wear little metal bibs around their neck for fashion. Was this a thing? I know some other parts of high fashion were influenced by Landsknecht outfits. Like the slit sleeves were seen on many ladies dresses.

Was it a gorget?

It's something that started out as a piece of armor to protect your neck and ended up being purely decorative.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Alhazred posted:

Was it a gorget?

It's something that started out as a piece of armor to protect your neck and ended up being purely decorative.

That's exactly what it was, thank you!

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

pidan posted:

In a movie I saw they had male civilians in the 1600s wear little metal bibs around their neck for fashion. Was this a thing? I know some other parts of high fashion were influenced by Landsknecht outfits. Like the slit sleeves were seen on many ladies dresses.

Yeah, that's probably the case, though I'd say that was more from military fashion in general and not necessarily from the Landsknechts in particular. During the high and late middle ages, armour usually incorporated a gorget to protect your neck and upper chest, like this:


Over time, as armour became less complex and more standardised (such as around the Landsknecht era), those became rarer in practical use. However, they still remained a part of ceremonial and parade armour. Of course, having such a big honking piece of metal in front of your face is a bit impractical, so over time gorgets in particular got smaller, lighter, and more ornate. Eventually sometime in the 17th century, these miniature gorgets turned into signifiers of rank within the military, and made their way into civilian fashion as well.

e: f,b

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

pidan posted:

That's exactly what it was, thank you!

These are still in use today in various Western militaries to denote various functions like Officer of the Day, Security Chief, etc

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nuclear War posted:

These are still in use today in various Western militaries to denote various functions like Officer of the Day, Security Chief, etc

and green officers use it to make sure they don't lose their house keys.

MeatRocket8
Aug 3, 2011

John Kellogg, who invented Corn Flakes, is also responsible for introducing the US to male circumcision, for anti masteurbation puritanical beliefs.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

ChocNitty posted:

John Kellogg, who invented Corn Flakes, is also responsible for introducing the US to male circumcision, for anti masteurbation puritanical beliefs.

He also introduced us to sewing young girls’ vulvas shut, which thankfully didn’t catch on to quite the same degree.

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

Ariong posted:

He also introduced us to sewing young girls’ vulvas shut, which thankfully didn’t catch on to quite the same degree.

someone was trying real loving hard to get into a real lovely heaven

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

Put the boots to him, medium style.

Hair Elf
John Kellogg was just weirdly obsessed with young men blasting rope. The whole point of corn flakes was because he advocated a bland diet as a way to discourage ppl from jackin it.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Ariong posted:

He also introduced us to sewing young girls’ vulvas shut, which thankfully didn’t catch on to quite the same degree.

What the gently caress

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.


Nzgina (1583-1663), ruler of the kingdoms of Ndongo and Matamba in what is now modern-day Angola, is remembered today as a shrewd ruler and tactician. She notably kept a harem of 50-60 husbands whom she called concubines. These concubines were of a third-gender caste in Ndongo society known as chabados. Chabados were born male, wore women's clothing, often held important religious and leadership positions, and married and had sex with men. The chabados that belonged to Nzgina slept in the same room as her ladies-in-waiting and were reportedly executed on the spot if they attempted sexual relations with the women.

Visiting Catholic priests were dismayed by this caste of people, writing, "Men attyred like Women, and behave themselves womanly, ashamed to be called men; are also married to men, and esteeme that unnatural damnation an honor."

Marquis de Sade would later report that Nzinga would immolate each lover after a single night of passion, although this is considered a bit of fancy.

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Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar
Yeah I don't know if I'd trust de Sade to tell the truth about that sort of thing

probably wrote that part of his letter or whatever with one hand

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice

Alhazred posted:

Was it a gorget?

It's something that started out as a piece of armor to protect your neck and ended up being purely decorative.

Don't Norwegian officers still wear these on occasion? I swear I remember seeing it on the stiff necked dorks that were on barracks or mess hall duty.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Government Handjob posted:

Don't Norwegian officers still wear these on occasion? I swear I remember seeing it on the stiff necked dorks that were on barracks or mess hall duty.

Some do. I stole the one I had to wear when i was a guard at the army war college :hehe:

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Slippery posted:

Yeah I don't know if I'd trust de Sade to tell the truth about that sort of thing

probably wrote that part of his letter or whatever with one hand

How do you write?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Slippery posted:

Yeah I don't know if I'd trust de Sade to tell the truth about that sort of thing

probably wrote that part of his letter or whatever with one hand

P sure that's the only way he ever wrote

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Elyv posted:

I don't know how you guys talked about Landknechts without talking about their sense of fashion



Not pictured: the landsknecht assaulting a nun, accompanied by the artist's quirky comments

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Beachcomber posted:

How do you write?

:lol:

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice

Biplane posted:

Some do. I stole the one I had to wear when i was a guard at the army war college :hehe:

Yeah I Googled it after posting to confirm and it brought me back to being yelled at for not saluting the picture of His Royal Highness King Harald V of Norway when entering the chow hall.

Thinking back its weird I only got two formal reprimands during my service, I was the most lackluster dude in a company of losers that made Beetle Bailey's camp look like a well functioning war machine.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Government Handjob posted:

Yeah I Googled it after posting to confirm and it brought me back to being yelled at for not saluting the picture of His Royal Highness King Harald V of Norway when entering the chow hall.

Do you have to wait for him to return the salute?

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar
ugh y'all know what I meant drat it ( :) )

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




In 1619 Jan Janszoon was a successful privateer for the dutch crown, but too much of his loot was taken by the state and he had fallen in love with a moorish woman. So he decided to ditch his dutch identity, converted to islam and became a pirate called Murat Reis. He got circumcised and apparently kept his foreskin on display in his bedroom and proudly showed it to vistors. In 1624 he became the president of the pirate republic Sale. In 1627 he raided the icelandic city Grindavík. In 1635 he was captured by the knights of Malta, he escaped in 1640. Murat Reis then disappears from history and the only thing we know about his last years is a sentence from an old dutch biography that reads "he did not die of natural causes". His son, Anthony Janszoon van Salee, emigrated to America and his descendents is said to include Jackie Kennedy, Humphry Bogard and the Vanderbilts.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Government Handjob posted:

Don't Norwegian officers still wear these on occasion? I swear I remember seeing it on the stiff necked dorks that were on barracks or mess hall duty.

It's gorget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorget and the duty officers for example in the Norwegian and Finnish army still carry it to signify who is on watch duty at the barracks.

Edit: If someone is carrying a gun with live ammo and is not MP, it is usually this guy.

Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 17:30 on Feb 13, 2019

Duodecimal
Dec 28, 2012

Still stupid

Government Handjob posted:

I was the most lackluster dude in a company of losers that made Beetle Bailey's camp look like a well functioning war machine.

That's a heck of a cultural reference for a Norwegian.

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice

Duodecimal posted:

That's a heck of a cultural reference for a Norwegian.

Beetle Bailey (Billy) was/is pretty big in Norway and still runs in a bunch of newspapers and has its own comic book.

gleebster
Dec 16, 2006

Only a howler
Pillbug
Should have just held up a picture of yourself saluting.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Government Handjob posted:

I was the most lackluster dude in a company of losers that made Beetle Bailey's camp look like a well functioning war machine.

To be fair, that’s most of the norwegian armed forces.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Biplane posted:

To be fair, that’s most of the norwegian armed forces.

Who needs an army, when you have winter on your side.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Government Handjob posted:

Beetle Bailey (Billy) was/is pretty big in Norway and still runs in a bunch of newspapers and has its own comic book.

Same in Denmark, at least last I checked.

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

pidan posted:

Who needs an army, when you have winter on your side.

And mountains.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl
And the USA

aardwolf
Apr 27, 2013

Alhazred posted:

Humphry Bogard and the Vanderbilts.

I would listen to the hell out of this band and admit it: you would too :colbert:

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Zudgemud posted:

And mountains.

We for real have mountains filled with US war supplies, tanks, humvees etc.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I was reading about King Tut's throne (specifically while researching Ancient Egyptian furniture, because I'm weird) and came upon this source. I found one passage slightly odd...

quote:

The King Tut Throne follows the Amarna artistic tradition developed under Akhenaten, the lone Pharaoh that attempted to sway the nation to the worship of one god, the sun disc Aten. Akenaten’s movement was eventually overturned by later Pharaohs, but the prominence of the Aten continued as an appeasement to those in Egypt who worshiped it. Since this throne harkens back to the declining Amarna tradition, it is no surprise that one of its most prominent features is the placement of Aten top and center of the seat, with its life-giving, sustaining rays extending as arms and hands down towards Tutankhamen and his queen Ankhesenamun. This is one place on the throne where nothing but pure, unbroken, unadorned gold is used, since a deity as prominent as Aten would be represented whenever possible in the divine metal alone.

Further, if we look closely at the hands extending down from Aten, we can see that two of them hold the familiar symbol of the Ankh at the nostrils of Tut and his queen. In ancient Egypt, the ankh represented divine life or eternal life, and so it’s not too difficult to see here the imagery of divine life being imparted to the nostrils of the divine king and his queen.

Even if we stopped right here, we have to marvel at how much the ancient Egyptians intuitively understood about the true God, and yet were too blinded by their worship of something less to realize it. From the very beginning, God has revealed Himself as One God, the supreme and sovereign Creator, who is the originator and sustainer of all things. And, for those who care to accept it, the Book of Genesis provides a written record of God creating the heavens themselves, including the highest thing that Akhenaten could imagine as supreme -- the sun.

Later, God will use humanity’s intuitive association of gold with deity to emphasize his identity as the true God when he reveals to Moses the specifications for temple worship. In fact, if Moses indeed gave instructions according to what he saw, and not just what he heard, the dwelling place of the eternal God is decked out in more gold than even Tut himself could imagine.

Getting back to Genesis, it’s interesting that the Bible says specifically, “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being...” Unlike the representation on Tut’s Golden Throne, where divine life is imparted to the nostrils of the Pharaoh and his queen as privileged beings, the Bible claims that God personally imparted the “breath of life” -- the kind of life that He Himself possesses -- to every human being on earth. Like the life represented by the ankh, it is eternal, unending, and forever, but unlike the life pictured by the ankh and reserved for the Pharaoh, God’s true breath of life imparts significance to every person created in His image.

Surprise, it was a Biblical archaeology site the entire time!

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