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TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
oh thats loving normal.

as wrong as that is.

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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
like, there are at least a dozen proposals for things like this being developed right now, all of them being spoken of in rosy terms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qv76bBjjI

the unspoken thing they don't ever mention in the press release material is that they typically have about 15 minutes or so flight time before the batteries die

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
yeah battery density hasnt changed much, and li-ions are still pretty susceptible to exploding and making big fire

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Coxswain Balls posted:

gently caress, is that blood spray off to the side in that image?

Unless the plane is leaking red fluid.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Coxswain Balls posted:

gently caress, is that blood spray off to the side in that image?

Probably not, de-icing spray tends to be that color.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Coxswain Balls posted:

gently caress, is that blood spray off to the side in that image?

It's possible that it's hydraulic fluid, which is the same color, but I had the same unsettling thought. I'm not super familiar with how readily aircraft not designed in the 1960's piss hyd fluid everywhere.

e: or deicing fluid, that makes sense too.

Cojawfee posted:

Does the plane not have any safety measures for not pressuring the inside up to marianas trench levels?

Normally yes, but it's always possible for those systems to fail. Especially if, say, it's super cold and the valve that's supposed to regulate cabin pressure freezes shut.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

PittTheElder posted:

Probably not, de-icing spray tends to be that color.

If that’s de-icing spray, it’s not doing a very good job.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

quote:

The amount of gunfire confused the officers into thinking they were being fired at from the vehicle. In the end, thirteen officers fired a total of 137 bullets into the car, with Officer Michael Brelo firing 49 of those shots
I mean

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


Also Brelo not only kept firing after everyone stopped, but he jumped on the hood and fired an entire magazine through the windshield.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


nvm

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

chitoryu12 posted:

Also Brelo not only kept firing after everyone stopped, but he jumped on the hood and fired an entire magazine through the windshield.

Wow

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Can't tell if the surprise is sarcastic or not. I lived in Cleveland while that was going on and during the years long aftermath so it seems normalized and I thought widely known. I think brelo got a job somewhere else.

If you think that was some poo poo you should listen to season 3 of the serial podcast. It's some Wire poo poo.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

KoRMaK posted:

Can't tell if the surprise is sarcastic or not. I lived in Cleveland while that was going on and during the years long aftermath so it seems normalized and I thought widely known. I think brelo got a job somewhere else.

If you think that was some poo poo you should listen to season 3 of the serial podcast. It's some Wire poo poo.

Good recommendation here. That podcast made me truly hate our vengeance system. I can't bear to call it a justice system anymore.

schmug
May 20, 2007

chitoryu12 posted:

Also Brelo not only kept firing after everyone stopped, but he jumped on the hood and fired an entire magazine through the windshield.
Just making sure the threat was neutralized. Totally not racially motivated at all. lol

KoRMaK posted:

Can't tell if the surprise is sarcastic or not. I lived in Cleveland while that was going on and during the years long aftermath so it seems normalized and I thought widely known. I think brelo got a job somewhere else.

If you think that was some poo poo you should listen to season 3 of the serial podcast. It's some Wire poo poo.

Same. I'm sure it went national, but this country is so hosed it probably got glossed over a bit because...

Think he did get hired somewhere and then almost immediately quit because of harassment or some poo poo.

BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011

sorry for the facebook video, but it's good

https://www.facebook.com/NortheastMaritimeInstitute/videos/403311717075819/

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

https://www.newsweek.com/california-gardena-metal-cutting-machine-death-german-machined-company-los-1328109

Newsweek posted:

A manufacturing worker has died in California after reportedly getting stuck inside an industrial metal cutting machine that switched on, police said.
...
He declined to say if the death was ruled accidental or intentional.

Local incident, ouch.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016



quote:

“It appears that the employee was conducting some sort of maintenance on the machine when the machine was turned on,” Cuff said.

Lock. Out. Tag. Out.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

chitoryu12 posted:

Also Brelo not only kept firing after everyone stopped, but he jumped on the hood and fired an entire magazine through the windshield.

Oh that mother fucker. He was not found guilty of voluntary manslaughter because 12 other people fired. :wtc: Fire the US police, literally. I am surprised the police aren't getting ambushed on the regular instead of it being some imaginary thing that they justify every action with.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


luxury handset posted:

like, there are at least a dozen proposals for things like this being developed right now, all of them being spoken of in rosy terms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qv76bBjjI

the unspoken thing they don't ever mention in the press release material is that they typically have about 15 minutes or so flight time before the batteries die

But what if we do aerial battery hotswaps with a fleet of orbiting service drones?

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
Shortly after I started working at the airport in 2016, someone erected the shoddiest bit of scaffolding I've ever seen holding up some large steel beams, holding up larger steel beams, holding up a whole lot more of said larger steel beams. It's taken me 3 years to take pictures of it because it's just the busiest service tunnel that bisects the entire airport that everyone needs to use, constantly.





4 totally structural scaffolds I guess. Someone's gotta know the airport already from this alone. That poo poo has been there, unchanged, for 3 years. Safe enough to stand for 3 years, not safe enough to touch. :ohdear:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s good thing there are no heavy and poorly maintained vehicles driven recklessly around this scaffolding.

Tarantula
Nov 4, 2009

No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.
For some reason youtube recommended the love parade disaster. Video maybe :nms: because there were deaths at the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster

quote:

With the slogan "The Art of Love", the event was one of the program elements of RUHR.2010, an effort to highlight cultural events in the Ruhr area, one of 2010's European Capitals of Culture.[8]


A 2008 photograph of the tunnel that leads to the site of the disaster
The festival was staged on the area of a former freight station. The capacity of the enclosed location was limited to 250,000 people,[9] but more than one million visitors were expected, based on the experience of previous years.[citation needed]

Entrance should have been granted at 11:00, but was granted at 12:00 CEST.[10] A 240-metre tunnel from the east and a series of underpasses from the west met at a ramp that was supposed to be the only entrance and exit point of the festival area.[11] A smaller ramp existed between the underpasses from the west. Because of overcrowding, police at the entrance began announcing over loudspeakers that new arrivals should turn around and head back.[12][13] The side of the tunnel that was the entry of the parade area was closed, but people continued to enter the tunnel from the rear, despite being told it was closed. The deaths occurred as the ramp between tunnel underpasses and the festival area became overcrowded.[14][15]

There was some debate as to how the deaths occurred. Some reports suggested they were caused by people falling off a staircase as they tried to escape the tunnel.[16] However, autopsies showed that all of the fatalities were due to crushed rib cages.[16][17] A 2012 scientific analysis of the causes of the disaster dismissed the earlier descriptions of the incident as stampede or crowd panic, and instead found evidence of a phenomenon called "crowd turbulence".[1]

Just watching people stuck in a crowd like that is making me a little anxious. Lesson to be learned? Large crowds and tunnels are bad.

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

oohhboy posted:

Oh that mother fucker. He was not found guilty of voluntary manslaughter because 12 other people fired. :wtc: Fire the US police, literally. I am surprised the police aren't getting ambushed on the regular instead of it being some imaginary thing that they justify every action with.

I know this is slight whataboutery but I’m always surprised/amused when Americans slam the UK for having CCTV cameras everywhere yet seem to tacitly accept living under an engorged and militarised police force more than happy to brutally murder you at the drop of a hat then pat themselves on the back for it

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Tarantula posted:

For some reason youtube recommended the love parade disaster. Video maybe :nms: because there were deaths at the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster


Just watching people stuck in a crowd like that is making me a little anxious. Lesson to be learned? Large crowds and tunnels are bad.
William Langewiesche has a piece on a similar incident
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/the-mecca-stampede-that-made-history-hajj

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Tarantula posted:

For some reason youtube recommended the love parade disaster. Video maybe :nms: because there were deaths at the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster


Just watching people stuck in a crowd like that is making me a little anxious. Lesson to be learned? Large crowds and tunnels are bad.

I went to a Love Parade in Berlin back in the 90s. It started off at this giant square filled with thousands of people, and whenever one side started to push it rolled like a wave over the whole crowd. It was really scary, there was nothing you could do but go with the flow, and hope it doesn't get worse.

HarmB
Jun 19, 2006



Butterfly Valley posted:

I know this is slight whataboutery but I’m always surprised/amused when Americans slam the UK for having CCTV cameras everywhere yet seem to tacitly accept living under an engorged and militarised police force more than happy to brutally murder you at the drop of a hat then pat themselves on the back for it

Neither is great, but I'd take camera shots over gunshots

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Butterfly Valley posted:

I know this is slight whataboutery but I’m always surprised/amused when Americans slam the UK for having CCTV cameras everywhere yet seem to tacitly accept living under an engorged and militarised police force more than happy to brutally murder you at the drop of a hat then pat themselves on the back for it

I doubt the Americans who know or care enough to criticize UK CCTV cameras are "more than happy" about our police state either.

More like "Some Americans are alarmed at our orwellian surveillance state. Other Americans put up Blue Lives Matter flags. These are non-overlapping group of people."

d3lness
Feb 19, 2011

Unicorns are metal. Gundanium alloy to be exact...

Imagined posted:

I doubt the Americans who know or care enough to criticize UK CCTV cameras are "more than happy" about our police state either.

More like "Some Americans are alarmed at our orwellian surveillance state. Other Americans put up Blue Lives Matter flags. These are non-overlapping group of people."

Remember kids, video games are bad because they cause school shootings. Don't forget to deify you tax backed bullies and bloated armed forces!

schmug
May 20, 2007

Tarantula posted:

For some reason youtube recommended the love parade disaster. Video maybe :nms: because there were deaths at the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster


Just watching people stuck in a crowd like that is making me a little anxious. Lesson to be learned? Large crowds and tunnels are bad.

lesson also learned: Love Hurts.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

https://i.imgur.com/fHXnEw1.mp4

LUBE UP YOUR BUTT
Jun 30, 2008


It starts out with one incident but then lol holy poo poo the number of hajj incidents and their combined death toll would be impressive it wasn’t so sad

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
After the Hajj, what is the next deadliest religious observance?

The Devil’s Advocate proposes “Shabbat”, noting that more than fourteen percent of Jews have died during Shabbat.

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Tarantula posted:

For some reason youtube recommended the love parade disaster. Video maybe :nms: because there were deaths at the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster


Just watching people stuck in a crowd like that is making me a little anxious. Lesson to be learned? Large crowds and tunnels are bad.

Things like this is why I don't do crowds.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

and then they trainfuckled

Messadiah
Jan 12, 2001

Platystemon posted:

It’s good thing there are no heavy and poorly maintained vehicles driven recklessly around this scaffolding.

I've walked under this without noticing, gently caress. Thanks.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Tarantula posted:

For some reason youtube recommended the love parade disaster. Video maybe :nms: because there were deaths at the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster


Just watching people stuck in a crowd like that is making me a little anxious. Lesson to be learned? Large crowds and tunnels are bad.

The lesson learned in that gently caress-up is a little more than that. The whole incident was basically the perfect storm of political posturing, cutting corners, cheaping-out on safety, lack of communication, nepotism, obscene amounts of organisational negligence and that was just the poo poo that went down before the festival. They were basically begging for any little thing to go wrong that would have caused mass panic and countless deaths in pretty much ANY setting.

What's so crazy about this incident is that what happened didn't even come remotely close to the worst case you could have had there. It wouldn't even register on a scale of 1 to 10 of the worst outcomes that could have happened in that setting. Mass brawl, fire, sudden bad change in weather / torrential downpour, literally anything.
There was never a real breakout of mass panic, twenty one people were just casually crushed to death with the majority of the mass slowly passing by barely even noticing. Only the people closest to that one tiny confined space were even aware that it wasn't just a bunch of people passing out, but people actually fighting for their lives.

Tens of thousands of people were funneled through a total of 1300 feet of tunnel from two directions into a comically undersized on-ramp to the festival area, and at some point, the police even blocked that on ramp, and "only" twenty-one people died. The infrastructure-planning was so batshit insane that only twenty-one people dying was quite possibly the best-case outcome you could have mathematically calculated for that dumb festival. If absolutely anything even minutely worse would have happened to spark an actual mass panic, the death toll would have probably been in the high hundreds easily.

The festival wasn't even close to halfway-through when poo poo hit the fan iirc. One of the accidentally-beneficial calls that were made was to keep the floats on the festival grounds running, instead of shutting the music down out of respect for the tragedy, because the on-ramp TO the festival area would have turned into THE ONLY EXIT from the festival grounds, and the "party" continuing kept removing people from the powderkeg-equation. Think two streams of around 40,000 people at the time pushing towards the T-section of the ramp, and then being compacted by a third stream started by the 200,000 plus people already in the festival area trying to leave.


And here's the kicker: Three weeks ago, the court handling the criminal prosecution over the past 8 years suggested that the proceedings could be concluded with no verdicts rendered. :suicide:

Duzzy Funlop fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Feb 13, 2019

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Platystemon posted:

After the Hajj, what is the next deadliest religious observance?

The Devil’s Advocate proposes “Shabbat”, noting that more than fourteen percent of Jews have died during Shabbat.

But you're not supposed to handle any tools during shabbat, just eat bread and go to town on each other.

Christmas is way more deadly with if you include black Friday tramplings and Christmas tree fires.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Moist von Lipwig posted:

But you're not supposed to handle any tools during shabbat, just eat bread and go to town on each other.

Christmas is way more deadly with if you include black Friday tramplings and Christmas tree fires.
AFAIK a lot of the Shabbat deaths come fires resulting from behaviors like leaving ovens/lamps/candles burning because the observant are not permitted to switch things on and off.

It's somewhat fascinating how much effort goes in to working around those kinds of rules too. Elevators that stop on every floor, random delays on refrigerator compressors so their starting up isn't a direct result of opening the door, lamps with shades so the light output can be controlled while the unit itself remains on, etc.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

wolrah posted:

random delays on refrigerator compressors so their starting up isn't a direct result of opening the door,

I've heard of the elevator thing but this is some fight club poo poo lol

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VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

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lol at everyone missing the Shabbat joke

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