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fighting games everywhere throughout all time and space are all bad, only barely better than MOBAs
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Feb 15, 2019 06:46
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the best fighting game is Warriors Orochi 3 duel mode
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Feb 15, 2019 06:48
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Sega All Stars Racing needed a story mode that's basically Space Jam with Danica Patrick.
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Feb 15, 2019 09:46
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QuarkJets posted:fighting games everywhere throughout all time and space are all bad, only barely better than MOBAs It's always fun to hear about some controversy in the "fighting game scene", as if anyone outside of that tiny group cares at all, lol.
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Feb 15, 2019 10:41
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Lambert posted:It's always fun to hear about some controversy in the "fighting game scene", as if anyone outside of that tiny group cares at all, lol. The speedrunning community is much the same
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Feb 15, 2019 12:20
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the best was hearing about the fighting game community getting all pissed off over Super Smash Brothers because it borrowed fighting game mechanics but had way wider appeal
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Feb 15, 2019 12:24
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like imagine if the let's play community got all lovely and pissed off when streaming started becoming popular oh wait that probably happened
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Feb 15, 2019 12:25
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QuarkJets posted:the best was hearing about the fighting game community getting all pissed off over Super Smash Brothers because it borrowed fighting game mechanics but had way wider appeal Smash Bros players don't help their case though. There's some amazing stories that come out of them. Like the pro player who shat the bed of the guy who put him up for the night
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Feb 15, 2019 13:06
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QuarkJets posted:fighting games everywhere throughout all time and space are all bad, only barely better than MOBAs  Not while Heritage for the Future exists, bitch!
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Feb 15, 2019 13:19
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QuarkJets posted:the best was hearing about the fighting game community getting all pissed off over Super Smash Brothers because it borrowed fighting game mechanics but had way wider appeal It’s ok though you can remove the oddities by removing items and make the terrain more fair if you play on final destination (a flat equidistant just map).
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Feb 15, 2019 13:29
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If Smash Bros. is anything like One Piece Grand Battle (as I assume it is), I don't want to ever play it.
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Feb 15, 2019 13:30
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Smash is a party game for drunk people, people pretending it's sport or even e-sport deserve just mockery
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Feb 15, 2019 13:33
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Melee has grown stagnant to the point where there are discussions of specific character tactics and putting limits on stuff like edge-hogging to take the teeth out of Hungrybox's Puff strategy. That's right- they want to change tournament rules and have "refs" count things like how many times a person has regrabbed a ledge without touching the ground because of one dude.
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Feb 15, 2019 13:37
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StarMinstrel posted:It’s ok though you can remove the oddities by removing items and make the terrain more fair if you play on final destination (a flat equidistant just map). Even playing casually you get kinda sick of the items after a while because of how many basically take over the match.
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Feb 15, 2019 13:47
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even playing casually you get kinda sick of the items after a while because of how many basically take over the match. at that point normal people just stop playing smash brothers. the items are supposed to take over the match and make it random and fun, because smash bros is supposed to be casual where anyone can win the match (being a kids game).
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Feb 15, 2019 13:54
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Rutibex posted:at that point normal people just stop playing smash brothers. the items are supposed to take over the match and make it random and fun, because smash bros is supposed to be casual where anyone can win the match (being a kids game). Nintendo officially hosts tournaments and makes balance changes depending on the outcomes
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Feb 15, 2019 13:57
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Pyromancer posted:Smash is a party game for drunk people, people pretending it's sport or even e-sport deserve just mockery i loled pretty hard the first time i heard that there are actually people who demand you only play on final destination with all the fun drunk poo poo disabled
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Feb 15, 2019 14:58
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ASenileAnimal posted:i loled pretty hard the first time i heard that there are actually people who demand you only play on final destination with all the fun drunk poo poo disabled I've legit met people like this and it's the worst. Also the pro smash scene is full of ego lords. There was a big stink a few years ago because some pros wanted to be moved up on the brackets by default for a certain tourney. Also something about 'warm up stations" just for the top dogs which I imagine is a codeword for anal sex.
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Feb 15, 2019 19:55
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People who talk about the "pro" scene of some video games are the worst, only slightly above the people who are in said pro scenes.
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Feb 15, 2019 20:17
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I understand the the current debate gripping the Smash Bros Pro Scene is whether or not Ice Climbers are broken 
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Feb 15, 2019 20:19
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I understand the the current debate gripping the Smash Bros Pro Scene is whether or not Ice Climbers are broken If you keep having it slap on arbitrary rules to ban some unintended uses of in-game mechanics (wobbling) while allowing other forms of the same loving thing (wave-dashing) in your party battle game to dress it up like a real fighter, then it probably isn't a real fighter. Play a real man's fighting game like SFV- where it was recently discovered that Blanka has timestop powers. https://twitter.com/i/status/1095716996929339392 BUUURAAAAANKA-CHAN!!!!
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Feb 15, 2019 21:31
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Twelve Batmans posted:If you keep having it slap on arbitrary rules to ban some unintended uses of in-game mechanics (wobbling) while allowing other forms of the same loving thing (wave-dashing) in your party battle game to dress it up like a real fighter, then it probably isn't a real fighter. This is a lot of words I don't understand about a game where Pikachu beats up Mario
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Feb 15, 2019 21:45
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Barudak posted:People say this and then they meet somebody actually good at Soul Caliber. It happened in my group of friends with SC4 where everyone was super into it regularly then one lady spent some time practicing and just bodied anybody else. A few years ago a friend and I were hanging out and decided to try out the online in soul caliber 4, we both considered ourselves pretty decent in our local fighting games scene. This was years after it's release, and so we only found one single lobby with one single dude. He used elaborate custom characters every single match, like a wonderfully detailed Mario using Astaroths skillset, or a picture-perfect Chun Li. Anyway my buddy and I swapped every match and this dude absolutely bodied us, 0-20, and then kicked us out of his lobby, even though we were the only two accounts in the entirety of xbox live looking for a match at the time. My friend and I still talk about that, it was such an odd and singular experience.
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Feb 16, 2019 01:52
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Olaf The Stout posted:A few years ago a friend and I were hanging out and decided to try out the online in soul caliber 4, we both considered ourselves pretty decent in our local fighting games scene. This was years after it's release, and so we only found one single lobby with one single dude. He used elaborate custom characters every single match, like a wonderfully detailed Mario using Astaroths skillset, or a picture-perfect Chun Li. Anyway my buddy and I swapped every match and this dude absolutely bodied us, 0-20, and then kicked us out of his lobby, even though we were the only two accounts in the entirety of xbox live looking for a match at the time. My friend and I still talk about that, it was such an odd and singular experience. I played Street Fighter 4 every Friday with a group of buddies before we went out, for I wanna say nearly a year. It was the first fighting game I actually played where I wasn't just slapping buttons randomly and hoping poo poo happens. I fancied myself pretty good at it. Eventually everyone got sort of sick of it and we just starting meeting at the bar instead of meeting up at my house beforehand to play. So I decided to start playing online. I never won a single match. Turns out I was bad at it the whole time, my friends just sucked as much as I did.
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Feb 16, 2019 04:32
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veni veni veni posted:I played Street Fighter 4 every Friday with a group of buddies before we went out, for I wanna say nearly a year. It was the first fighting game I actually played where I wasn't just slapping buttons randomly and hoping poo poo happens. I fancied myself pretty good at it. Eventually everyone got sort of sick of it and we just starting meeting at the bar instead of meeting up at my house beforehand to play. So I decided to start playing online. I never won a single match. Turns out I was bad at it the whole time, my friends just sucked as much as I did. i was good at fighting games before online play because of my highly superior social skills and wide group of friends but once netplay allowed any unemployed rear end in a top hat to just play all day, that was it for my fighting game career.
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Feb 16, 2019 04:35
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Funny thing is the latest Smash game is actually considered pretty good for the competitive scene, they've added a shitload of options to provide more variety for the competitive scene and so far no one's figured out if any characters are overpowered yet so it's not just Fox only, Final Destination. And Pichu is a terrifying adorable big headed electric mouse pirate.
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Feb 16, 2019 04:38
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QuarkJets posted:the best was hearing about the fighting game community getting all pissed off over Super Smash Brothers because it borrowed fighting game mechanics but had way wider appeal It's actually more because the smash community is insufferable. More than the typical pro gamer I mean
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Feb 16, 2019 04:49
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Away all Goats posted:It's actually more because the smash community is insufferable. More than the typical pro gamer I mean To use a horribly geeky analogy, it struck me as like card game pro communities; Magic the Gathering is the biggest game in town, and while it has plenty of horror stories, it's big enough to be relatively moderate at least by insular nerd community standards. While the Pokemon card game is popular with kids and some older people who tend to be more self-aware about how they're playing a kids' game, and usually just into it because they like the Pokemon. Yu-Gi-Oh! though is the worst of both worlds with the worst reputation for unwashed manchildren and immature teenagers desperate to prove their children's card game is a serious pursuit for serious people. I think Smash in this analogy is somewhere between Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! where there's a mix of actual kids, probably some pretty cool people who like a fighting game where Bayonetta can throw Pac-Man off cliffs, and monstrously obnoxious insecure manchildren that tend to be the ones everyone tells stories about.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:08
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Away all Goats posted:It's actually more because the smash community is insufferable. More than the typical pro gamer I mean then that's something they have in common and should bond over it
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Feb 16, 2019 07:29
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Serephina posted:
This is often the case with games considered "very good", I think there's something in not babying the audience. I've ALWAYS said with boardgames people are teaching me, do it with all the expansions and do the full fat version, don't hold anything back 'because it's a learning game'. I actually think it goes for computer games, that you actually have a better experience if at the start, when it's new and exciting, you are inundated, because actually you can pick up way more early on than you'd give yourself credit for, and it means then you're playing the full game longer.
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Feb 16, 2019 08:59
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!Klams posted:This is often the case with games considered "very good", I think there's something in not babying the audience. I've ALWAYS said with boardgames people are teaching me, do it with all the expansions and do the full fat version, don't hold anything back 'because it's a learning game'. I actually think it goes for computer games, that you actually have a better experience if at the start, when it's new and exciting, you are inundated, because actually you can pick up way more early on than you'd give yourself credit for, and it means then you're playing the full game longer. Yeah, and it's a lot better for replay value. Though it's tricky given some people will just try everything out while others will freeze up with choice paralysis or lock themselves into doing things one way without considering any alternatives.
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Feb 16, 2019 09:08
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I'm the biggeest SS2 fanboy there is, but even the devs knew in retrospect that the dive was too sharp. Lots of modern AAA games are wishy-washy in a lot of regards in their pursuit of the widest audience, but at least they're benefitting from experience as games-as-a-medium has been maturing. This past Xmas I bought a bunch of backlog titles such as Witcher3, Fallout: NV, etc, and it was sharp as night and day how much better intros in the recent/more polished titles where than the older ones.
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Feb 16, 2019 13:16
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Monopoly is great and a lot of fun. That's my unpopular board game opinion.
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Feb 16, 2019 16:00
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Shibawanko posted:Monopoly is great and a lot of fun. That's my unpopular board game opinion. You play with the games actual rules, I assume
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Feb 16, 2019 16:00
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Barudak posted:You play with the games actual rules, I assume Get money on free parking? Yeah of course.
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Feb 16, 2019 16:02
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Shibawanko posted:Monopoly is great and a lot of fun. That's my unpopular board game opinion. Monopoly is great, but not as good as Talisman the Magical Quest Game.
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Feb 16, 2019 16:58
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Shibawanko posted:Get money on free parking? Yeah of course. I am going to shove your house rules so far down your throat you'll poo poo hotels
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Feb 16, 2019 17:18
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Barudak posted:I am going to shove your house rules so far down your throat you'll poo poo hotels
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Feb 16, 2019 17:19
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Rutibex posted:Monopoly is great, but not as good as Talisman the Magical Quest Game. Monopoly is a terrible board game, plenty of better options.
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Feb 16, 2019 17:25
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Lambert posted:Monopoly is a terrible board game, plenty of better options. not if you play with the auction rules (and no loving money on free parking  ) yeah there are better games than monopoly, but you can get a monopoly set for like $1 and it's fun as hack to play if you follow the proper rules.
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Feb 16, 2019 17:28
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