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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

The ending to the Klaus plot was perfect. :rip: Dusty Baker

Everything tastes better with a bit of tree.

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

The ending to the Klaus plot was perfect. :rip: Dusty Baker
That was such a random plotline but as a baseball fan I loved it

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!
The moment Francine's body gave up on stage had me laughing for a good minute.

Did we find out about Roger's park ranger?

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

FlamingLiberal posted:

That was such a random plotline but as a baseball fan I loved it

That was my exact feeling about it, lol.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Andrew_1985 posted:

Did we find out about Roger's park ranger?
Nope but you know it was something cool

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

FlamingLiberal posted:

Nope but you know it was something cool

Probably having sex with bigfoot.

TheFattestPat
Dec 28, 2012

Santa Cat Says: Good deeds are the things to always do, just make sure someone is watching you
I still love this show to death, but man the writers just can't move away from Francine always being right and Stan always being wrong.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


TheFattestPat posted:

I still love this show to death, but man the writers just can't move away from Francine always being right and Stan always being wrong.

Man, what are you talking about bro? Francine is constantly shown to be wrong and/or an idiot.

Casino Normale, Iced Iced Babies, Can I Be Frank with You, Crotchwalkers, and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

There's also a lot of episodes like Shallow Vows and Home Wrecker were they both act equally insane.

Eddain
May 6, 2007
Whatever happened to the golden turd and Mind Quad?

Actually, I want another James Bond episode where Stan has to go up against Mind Quad.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Wasn't Rapture's Delight the end of the golden turd story? They use it to power Roger's spaceship.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

muscles like this! posted:

Wasn't Rapture's Delight the end of the golden turd story? They use it to power Roger's spaceship.

No it came back. I think the most recent one was the presidential candidate?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Wasn't there a giant statue of Roger at the Vatican?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Brawnfire posted:

Wasn't there a giant statue of Roger at the Vatican?

No, it was a mural depicting an ancient prophecy wherein the golden turd is shoved back up Roger's rear end.

dovetaile
Jul 8, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Eddain posted:

Whatever happened to the golden turd and Mind Quad?

Actually, I want another James Bond episode where Stan has to go up against Mind Quad.

And his sidekick Jimmy Boombox!

TheFattestPat
Dec 28, 2012

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Man, what are you talking about bro? Francine is constantly shown to be wrong and/or an idiot.

Casino Normale, Iced Iced Babies, Can I Be Frank with You, Crotchwalkers, and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

There's also a lot of episodes like Shallow Vows and Home Wrecker were they both act equally insane.

Yeah there are some like that, but they sure like to put Stan in the wrong a good 90% of the time when he and Francine have a conflict.

This new episode was a rather bizarre case. So Stan criticizes her for quitting things all the time, but he turns out to be wrong because...Francine quit being in a coma? Seems like it might have been better if instead she had not quit on life and worked to get out of the coma. Felt like they were resorting to strange logic just so they could put Stan in the wrong. I do like it more when those two are equally insane.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


TheFattestPat posted:

Yeah there are some like that, but they sure like to put Stan in the wrong a good 90% of the time when he and Francine have a conflict.

This new episode was a rather bizarre case. So Stan criticizes her for quitting things all the time, but he turns out to be wrong because...Francine quit being in a coma? Seems like it might have been better if instead she had not quit on life and worked to get out of the coma. Felt like they were resorting to strange logic just so they could put Stan in the wrong. I do like it more when those two are equally insane.

First of all, I don't have the gumption to go through all two hundred and whatever episodes and add up all of the "Stan wrong" vs. the "Francine wrong" plot-lines to prove this definitively, but I'm still pretty positive that your math is off here with that whole "90%" thing. One of the things I like about this show is that there's no designated straight man so everyone has about an equal chance of being the crazy one from episode to episode.

Second, the problem of the wasn't that Stan was wrong about Francine being a Quitter. He was 100% right, she IS a quitter. The problem was that mocking her for quitting so much was a mean thing to do. This is a story-line format that American Dad uses a lot: Character A has a flaw, Character B tries to get Character A to change this flaw, Character A changes but the change ends up being worse than the original flaw or harmful in some way, Character B realizes they were wrong for trying to force Character A to change and accepts them for who they are. This time Stan was in the role of Character B and Francine was in the role of Character A, but a good example of an episode where Francine is Character B and Stan is Character A is "The Missing Kink": Stan is sexually repressed, Francine tries to get him to do something that makes him feel uncomfortable, Stan becomes an unhinged sexual deviant, Francine realizes she was wrong to push Stan out of his comfort zone.

It's actually kind of sweet that American Dad has this long running moral motif of "Be accepting of people for who they are, and that acceptance includes their imperfections". Of course, in the show a lot of these imperfections are amplified for comedic effect to the point that they border on sociopathic or criminal behavior and in the real world probably should be changed, but, well, look this is a cartoon with a talking fish and probably shouldn't be taken that seriously.

TheFattestPat
Dec 28, 2012

Santa Cat Says: Good deeds are the things to always do, just make sure someone is watching you
I don't feel like combing over every episode either, but they do like to crap on Stan a lot more. I'm thinking of episodes like the kidney one where Francine reveals that Stan might not be Haley's biological father because she slept with another guy before their wedding. The whole episode was focused on Stan being wrong for wanting to know if he is the biological father. Not once is Francine given any criticism for cheating on him and possibly getting knocked up by a stranger right before they got married. Those are the kinds of plots that really are not thought out well enough. This last episode wasn't anywhere near that bad, but it had similar vibes.

You're right though, it is just a cartoon and shouldn't be taken too seriously. My problem is I really love this cartoon so it hurts when I see spotty writing like that.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Flavortown

Jeff starts hanging out with Stan’s favorite celebrity chef while in search of an identity; Klaus and Roger start their own valet operation.

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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I wonder how Jeff and Barry's project is going

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Who do you think the chef is?

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
Do you think Smash Mouth will also appear?

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
This is kind of a random thought, but I'm watching season 8 at the moment and I'm really glad that they abandoned the Steve/Akiko poo poo.

Webbeh
Dec 13, 2003

IF THIS IS A 'LOST' THREAD I'M PROBABLY WHINING ABOUT
STABBEY THE MEANY
God I love this drat show. Glad to have it back.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

YeahTubaMike posted:

This is kind of a random thought, but I'm watching season 8 at the moment and I'm really glad that they abandoned the Steve/Akiko poo poo.

Well, if you were rejected in favor of an 10 year old, would you keep pursuing a girl?

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
Wow, I completely forgot about that. It just popped into my head because I was watching Spelling Bee My Baby, possibly my least favorite episode of the series.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Oh hey! I just remembered there's a new episode tonight!

dovetaile
Jul 8, 2011

Grimey Drawer

twistedmentat posted:

Well, if you were rejected in favor of an 10 year old, would you keep pursuing a girl?

But Dougie knows how to dance!

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

dovetaile posted:

But Dougie knows how to dance!

I still say that is one of the greatest line in American Dad history. The follow up with the little kid doing the robot in a Gizmo outfit was just icing on the cake.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

YeahTubaMike posted:

This is kind of a random thought, but I'm watching season 8 at the moment and I'm really glad that they abandoned the Steve/Akiko poo poo.

I disagree, we could have avoided a lot of really bad Steve plots if they would just have given him a steady girlfriend again

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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drrockso20 posted:

I disagree, we could have avoided a lot of really bad Steve plots if they would just have given him a steady girlfriend again

I'd love to see Steve have a really dominating girlfriend.

Then there's an episode where Stan thinks that's unnatural and sets Steve up with an insanely submissive girl, but Steve is so frustrated with her--well, you'll have to watch to find out. Suffice to say, nothing changes.

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Debbie was the superior girlfriend

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


drrockso20 posted:

I disagree, we could have avoided a lot of really bad Steve plots if they would just have given him a steady girlfriend again

I also like the idea of Steve having a girlfriend (that would open up the doors to a bunch of interesting and funny plot-lines), but the problem with Akiko is they never really seemed to know what her personality was supposed to be. She kind of just acted however the plot needed her to act at the time to move the story forward. In a show that's as focused on character based humor as American Dad that made her, and by extension her relationship with Steve, come off as kind of boring. Honestly, Akiko's mom and Francine had a way more interesting dynamic as passive aggressive rivals, more of that please.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


The Chad Jihad posted:

Debbie was the superior girlfriend

Whatever happened to Debbie?

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Kwyndig posted:

Whatever happened to Debbie?

Last time they used her was an episode specifically built around writing her off as a love interest for Steve(and reinforcing the Steve/Snot friendship which made it worse*)

*I'll freely admit I loathe Steve's friends, Toshi and Barry are one dimensional and boring, and Snot is just a horrible friend most of the time, not to mention just unfunny for the most part

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

I also like the idea of Steve having a girlfriend (that would open up the doors to a bunch of interesting and funny plot-lines), but the problem with Akiko is they never really seemed to know what her personality was supposed to be. She kind of just acted however the plot needed her to act at the time to move the story forward. In a show that's as focused on character based humor as American Dad that made her, and by extension her relationship with Steve, come off as kind of boring. Honestly, Akiko's mom and Francine had a way more interesting dynamic as passive aggressive rivals, more of that please.

If Steve and Akiko became a couple they probably would flesh her out better as a character

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

The Chad Jihad posted:

Debbie was the superior girlfriend

Debbie was a great girlfriend and it made sense that Steve would like a girl like her. Also, the episode where her fatness triggers Stan's anorexia is one of the funniest episodes.

drrockso20 posted:

*I'll freely admit I loathe Steve's friends, Toshi and Barry are one dimensional and boring, and Snot is just a horrible friend most of the time, not to mention just unfunny for the most part

Toshi's best moment was when he vehemently testified against mad cow diseased Stan in court and everybody treated his testimony like a moving sympathetic speech. Barry's best moment was going off his meds and becoming a murderous weirdo. Snot's best moment was...I don't know. I still like all of Steve's friends for some reason. You're not wrong, I just disagree with you.

mexican willie
Mar 17, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOlv3CzbNX8&t=14s

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


drrockso20 posted:

Last time they used her was an episode specifically built around writing her off as a love interest for Steve(and reinforcing the Steve/Snot friendship which made it worse*)

*I'll freely admit I loathe Steve's friends, Toshi and Barry are one dimensional and boring, and Snot is just a horrible friend most of the time, not to mention just unfunny for the most part


Oh wow, strongly disagree with you on a lot of this. To each their own, but personally I think Snot is the best love interest Steve has ever had on this show.

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Jul 13, 2004

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YeahTubaMike posted:

Debbie was a great girlfriend and it made sense that Steve would like a girl like her. Also, the episode where her fatness triggers Stan's anorexia is one of the funniest episodes.


He just moved the food!

HE JUST MOVED THE FOOD!

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


That sunglasses scene is perfect for giffing.

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Sep 11, 2001



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