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Who What Now posted:Royalty is being rad as gently caress. Sure quote:The reason you don't karate chop through planets is that isn't rad in and off itself. Absolutely not.
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How about the Tick rationale: "That's where I keep all my stuff!"
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Feb 19, 2019 19:05
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A.o.D. posted:I posit that Solomon murdering his masters was the first time ki rata was ever used to a positive outcome. What about when all the Ki Rata practitioners initially killed each other till they were pacifist monks?
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Feb 19, 2019 19:45
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:What about when all the Ki Rata practitioners initially killed each other till they were pacifist monks? in retrospect comes off more like an extremely violent copyright battle
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Feb 19, 2019 20:04
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Patrick Spens posted:Sure Radness needs a purpose to be rad.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:25
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Schwarzwald posted:I'm envisioning some kind of hosed up hell lorax that speaks for the rocks. wiegieman posted:I think that we're about to see that the tuning fork is minor league compared to the Kung Fu breathing bullshit. Poltergrift posted:I assume it's the same idea as Batman: if you have a massive power advantage over other people, accepting that you can use it to impose your will on the world for a good reason leads readily to moral degeneration and fascism enforced by (infinitely wealthy vigilantism/kung fu breathing bullshit), because everyone thinks they have good reasons for what they do, including fascists. Nuking Yemmod is a slippery slope to nuking a lot of people who are a lot less powerful / wicked than Yemmod.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:11
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Dead Reckoning posted:It certainly is a complex moral quandary in the abstract, but worrying that flexing your Kung Fu will lead to a universe run by superpowered authoritarian dictators seems rather quaint in The Seven-Part World Run By Superpowered Authoritarian Dictators. I agree with you! Sitting on Ki Rata forever in a world full of dictators until you get pulped by one of your Deterrence Disciples isn't actually a good move, it's a way of avoiding getting your hands dirty. I'm just trying to work out the rationale behind these monks' decision.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:37
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KSBD has kind of a lot of supremely powerful ultimate masters hobbled by myopically obsessing over some tiny detail of getting what they want until they completely lose sight of what they were actually trying to accomplish, "not my problem if the blood emperor is murdering everyone in the world, this is the department of Don't Abuse Crane Style" fits in pretty well with the demiurge mindset.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:51
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Violence is pointless, and only begets more violence and suffering. Think of the Very Wise Frog.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:52
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Dr Cheeto posted:Violence is pointless, and only begets more violence and suffering. Think of the Very Wise Frog. "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things." Said the Very Wise Frog. "you imbecile. you loving moron"
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Feb 19, 2019 22:10
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Dr Cheeto posted:Violence is pointless, and only begets more violence and suffering. Think of the Very Wise Frog. Very wise frog recognized that violence was inescapable, and use it to: Clown someone who thought that he could run from violence.
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Feb 19, 2019 22:18
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They're an ancient insular monastic community who dedicate their entire lives to the non-proliferation of their own ultimate kung fu. They don't think that there is any equivalence between ultimate kung fu and other kinds of mass destruction, because they haven't dedicated their lives to the other ones.
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Feb 19, 2019 22:38
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the neat thing about demiurges is that the more demiurges you have the sooner youll have very few demiurges
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Poltergrift posted:I agree with you! Sitting on Ki Rata forever in a world full of dictators until you get pulped by one of your Deterrence Disciples isn't actually a good move, it's a way of avoiding getting your hands dirty. I'm just trying to work out the rationale behind these monks' decision. A Wizard of Goatse posted:KSBD has kind of a lot of supremely powerful ultimate masters hobbled by myopically obsessing over some tiny detail of getting what they want until they completely lose sight of what they were actually trying to accomplish, "not my problem if the blood emperor is murdering everyone in the world, this is the department of Don't Abuse Crane Style" fits in pretty well with the demiurge mindset.
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getting a nasty feeling that allison will utterly shatter solomon's empire her whole schtick thus far has been wqlking up to mega-powerful entities and just kicking away their crutches/breaking their cages, and the image of himself as a benevolent daddy-boss is absolutely solomon's
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make mockery posted:the neat thing about demiurges is that the more demiurges you have the sooner youll have very few demiurges Demiurges are fissionable material
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V. Illych L. posted:getting a nasty feeling that allison will utterly shatter solomon's empire No, it'll be even worse, she'll break Solomon and he'll watch his empire truck on just fine without him.
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Feb 20, 2019 03:45
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Phy posted:Demiurges are fissionable material Incredibly destructive and incredibly toxic? Yeah, checks out.
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Feb 20, 2019 04:17
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pseudorandom name posted:No, it'll be even worse, she'll break Solomon and he'll watch his empire truck on just fine without him.
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Feb 20, 2019 04:21
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Also, technically Mottom hosed up Mammon's stuff, not Allison. She totally ruined Mottom's whole thing, though that was much deserved.
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Feb 20, 2019 04:49
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pseudorandom name posted:No, it'll be even worse, she'll break Solomon and he'll watch his empire truck on just fine without him. Solomon David succeeding where all the other great sages of the multiverse have failed at creating a stable empire whose continued existence isn't an absolute disaster would kinda prove him right on every point
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kinda with previous posters who have mentioned that we'll shortly discover that solomon muscles' empire isn't nearly as wonderful at it looks on the surface
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We spent days talking about how Solomon David’s empire doesn’t need him at all and yet he’s too proud to give it up and let it flourish without him. The only thing that’s changed is that we now know that his pride is rooted in fear and despair.
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Feb 20, 2019 06:45
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pseudorandom name posted:No, it'll be even worse, she'll break Solomon and he'll watch his empire truck on just fine without him. What if Solomon's Will is what keeps his world from being boiled into molten rock by two suns?
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Feb 20, 2019 07:32
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pseudorandom name posted:No, it'll be even worse, she'll break Solomon and he'll watch his empire truck on just fine without him. Well, I mean, their is a universal war brewing. Not sure this is really the best time for Solomon not to be around, since he isn't preparing anyone to take his spot.
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Dead Reckoning posted:It makes a nice counterpoint with Solomon: he's so utterly powerful that, if he just decided to walk off the job and pursue his journey towards becoming true royalty, there wouldn't be a drat thing anyone could to do to stop him. But he's so fixated on finding an appropriate successor in order to ensure that his empire endures without him that he can't leave, and it's quite possible that the whole thing can't work without Solomon David sitting in the big chair. Becoming unstoppable in hand to hand combat and then deciding that the only person suitable to replace you is someone able to defeat you in a duel is pretty on the nose. He doesn't actually require "can beat him in a duel" his condition appears to be "single drop of blood." Which might not be PERFECTLY fair but I do reckon is pretty close to "is powerful enough that if i handed over all my demiurge power they'd be as powerful as i was with that demiurge power."
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Hey, you know who just demonstrated that they can spill a drop of blood from a demiurge who also has martial arts breathing bullshit?
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Feb 20, 2019 09:44
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Someone rules lawyer Solomon out of his empire by drawing a drop of his blood. On sketch paper.
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Feb 20, 2019 10:08
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Every single advisor he has can drop some of his blood by opening their own veins. It's poetic logic, the best kind of logic.
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what impresses me most isn't how gay this comic is but that it's so many different kinds of gay
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Dead Reckoning posted:That is a very mean thing to say about the Concordance Angels. Jagganoth is openly belligerent and wants universal mega-war. Solomon seems content to sitting on his empire waiting for a successor. Also the Keys just seem to help channel and unlock power in people. Presumably all the crazy royalty reality bending nonsense can be achieved without any external tool (see: Meti's Sword Manual) Which leads to believe that Allison will lose her key (or throw it away) at some point and furious dumbass her way into breaking her foot off in 7 very old people's asses.
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DancingShade posted:Someone rules lawyer Solomon out of his empire by drawing a drop of his blood. On sketch paper. The problem is that Solomon David probably went to significant lengths in making sure this couldn't happen. He seems very much a "my way or the highway" guy and probably has a clause where he can call bullshit on any challenger if they win and he decides they're still not worthy. Which it also seems likely he's used. Actually, do we have any notion of how long it's been since the first universal war? Rigged Death Trap posted:
Furious Dumbass is the most Royal of punch arts.
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Why do people keep acting like 'legalist juridical hell' and 'cosmic tyrant' needs any additional cackling malevolence to be bad? Also, we didn't get a tour of Mammon's bank's worst lending practices yet the audience got the idea that the Grand Dragon Bank was a problem without it. We really don't, narratively, need a bunch of misery porn to make the Celestial Empire a problem. (Also Abaddon stated it was the demiurgic domain he'd prefer to live in). A perfect and efficient empire is still bad and needs to end.
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habeasdorkus posted:The problem is that Solomon David probably went to significant lengths in making sure this couldn't happen. He seems very much a "my way or the highway" guy and probably has a clause where he can call bullshit on any challenger if they win and he decides they're still not worthy. Which it also seems likely he's used. Actually, do we have any notion of how long it's been since the first universal war? Given he's the head of a legalistic empire, he's probably employed a whole army of scribes to nail down every detail of the succession rules and the Tournament of Power.
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habeasdorkus posted:Furious Dumbass is the most Royal of punch arts. "My Furious Dumbass style has no weakness!" "Weakness? It doesn't have any strengths!" "Exactly!"
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Roland Jones posted:Also, technically Mottom hosed up Mammon's stuff, not Allison. She totally ruined Mottom's whole thing, though that was much deserved. Yeah, but Mottom only did that because she was following Allison. If Allison had gone home to Earth, say, Mottom would have blown the doors off Earth's gate instead. Mammon's poo poo got wrecked because of decisions Allison made. Indeed, she did go in there planning to wreck as much of Mammon's peace as she needed to in order to free Zaid. That she had a change of heart when she learned that Zaid wasn't there and saw how pitiable Mammon had become didn't change her original decision to invade his home. For that matter, she didn't go to Mottom's palace intending to wreck the place either, she was just looking for Z. The pattern she's established is: 1) Enter a demi-urge's realm chasing Z. 2) Get involved in poo poo she didn't intend. 3) Wreck that demi-urge's poo poo. 4) Find lead to Z's current location. 5) GOTO 1 There's no reason to believe that she won't end up doing the exact same thing to Sol-Dave.
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It's also possible that every time he is incredibly disappointed that none of his sons think (or dare) to try a technically-correct solution.
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reignonyourparade posted:He doesn't actually require "can beat him in a duel" his condition appears to be "single drop of blood." Which might not be PERFECTLY fair but I do reckon is pretty close to "is powerful enough that if i handed over all my demiurge power they'd be as powerful as i was with that demiurge power." Bongo Bill posted:Hey, you know who just demonstrated that they can spill a drop of blood from a demiurge who also has martial arts breathing bullshit? jng2058 posted:Yeah, but Mottom only did that because she was following Allison. If Allison had gone home to Earth, say, Mottom would have blown the doors off Earth's gate instead. Mammon's poo poo got wrecked because of decisions Allison made. Tenebrais posted:It's also possible that every time he is incredibly disappointed that none of his sons think (or dare) to try a technically-correct solution.
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