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paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Jesus and this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Pulwama_attack

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Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
lol

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Modi has been threatening possible war over this

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The military footage in this is all extremely homoerotic

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/Maysaloon/status/1097977114245193729?s=19 anyway

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I kind of agree https://twitter.com/Cigouave/status/1098069389046370304?s=19

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

paul_soccer10 posted:

The military footage in this is all extremely homoerotic

the national pastime in Turkey is oiled up wrestling

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

Alas the mullahs have good praxis.

E: seriously though, this has been a point of contention for a while now: https://thecharnelhouse.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/maxime-rodinson-critique-of-foucault-on-iran-1993.pdf

Boatswain has issued a correction as of 08:32 on Feb 20, 2019

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

People tend towards a kneejerk defense of Iran because all criticism of it is a cover to justify sanctions and war.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

People tend towards a kneejerk defense of Iran because all criticism of it is a cover to justify sanctions and war.

All criticism? Must be a pretty swell place

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

People tend towards a kneejerk defense of Iran because all criticism of it is a cover to justify sanctions and war.

That and the media has a free hand to publish anything it feels like about Iran, Venezuela, the DPRK or Syria with full confidence that no one will object.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Flavahbeast posted:

All criticism? Must be a pretty swell place

I definitely wouldn't recommend any of my gay friends to move there, but the only efficacy in pointing to their executing gays is as a cover to justify the sanctions. Literally in that twitter thread, the context is the antagonism between the US and Iran - which manifests in a sanctions regime and constant threats of war by the US upon Iran. If people want to talk about why Iran is bad, it shouldn't be in the context of a geopolitical discussion where the United States is the clear aggressor which is inflicting suffering on the entire country.

If we're talking about sanctions or Syria, what good does it do to bring up Iran's execution of rape victims and gay people - if not to justify bombing their soldiers in Syria and inflicting sanctions on the country?

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I definitely wouldn't recommend any of my gay friends to move there, but the only efficacy in pointing to their executing gays is as a cover to justify the sanctions. Literally in that twitter thread, the context is the antagonism between the US and Iran - which manifests in a sanctions regime and constant threats of war by the US upon Iran. If people want to talk about why Iran is bad, it shouldn't be in the context of a geopolitical discussion where the United States is the clear aggressor which is inflicting suffering on the entire country.

If we're talking about sanctions or Syria, what good does it do to bring up Iran's execution of rape victims and gay people - if not to justify bombing their soldiers in Syria and inflicting sanctions on the country?

important to point out that they wouldnt have become a theocracy if the west hadnt kept supporting the shah, but whatever

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Darkman Fanpage posted:

important to point out that they wouldnt have become a theocracy if the west hadnt kept supporting the shah, but whatever

It also delegitimizes the moral certitude of liberal social values when the liberal empire is trying to destroy their country.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

That and the media has a free hand to publish anything it feels like about Iran, Venezuela, the DPRK or Syria with full confidence that no one will object.

don't forget china, cuba and to a lesser extent vietnam. remember the sonic wave attacks melting diplomat brains that were actually crickets?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

kim jong un personally tying his generals up and letting loose rabid dogs while shooting them with AA guns

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

the workers' party of korea has the technology for necromancy and we MUSt get it for ourselves.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

THS posted:

kim jong un personally tying his generals up and letting loose rabid dogs while shooting them with AA guns

Those poor dogs

THS
Sep 15, 2017

never learned to keep pronouns and nouns clear in middle school and like gently caress if im gonna start now

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

People tend towards a kneejerk defense of Iran because all criticism of it is a cover to justify sanctions and war.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Because the uS acively sponsors way worse countries in the region, so it has no interest in improving human rights, and any US intervention will only make things exponentially worse on all fronts, including those where Iran has been doing relatively fine so far.

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

Unironically, good reporting from CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/middleeast/iran-medical-shortages-intl/index.html

quote:

Iranians are paying for US sanctions with their health

My aunt almost didn't find antibiotics after a surgery in ~2009 because of this poo poo. It's not new and it's getting worse again.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1100775538665377792

v cool we knocked over a guy we were told was toturing people so some different people could torture people

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

Darkman Fanpage posted:

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1100775538665377792

v cool we knocked over a guy we were told was toturing people so some different people could torture people

It is just an expression of nostalgia for the heady days before the Arabic Spring(s).

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Jack Posobiec got made fun of for asking why not pay to buy slaves and emancipate them, libs? :smug:

Turns out the EU would rather pay to torture them.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
The one thing slavers don't want is someone to buy their slaves

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

Jose posted:

The one thing slavers don't want is someone to buy their slaves

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Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Darkman Fanpage posted:

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1100775538665377792

v cool we knocked over a guy we were told was toturing people so some different people could torture people

Great work everyone!

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Artillery firing happening around Idlib between the government and rebels looks like it could escalate.
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/1102266063851524096

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I'm sure they'll be lining up for this

https://twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/1102511716460650497

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Something this thread should be interested in.

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/lions-led-by-donkeys-podcast

On the newest episode they deconstruct the book "Why Arabs Lose Wars" By Norvell B. De Atkine.

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Something this thread should be interested in.

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/lions-led-by-donkeys-podcast

On the newest episode they deconstruct the book "Why Arabs Lose Wars" By Norvell B. De Atkine.

Cheers, I'm gonna listen to this.

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009
Edit: confused the article with an unrelated book

Their Iran/Iraq series was really good too.

AceRimmer has issued a correction as of 19:46 on Mar 6, 2019

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

AceRimmer posted:

Edit: confused the article with an unrelated book

Their Iran/Iraq series was really good too.

I don't really care for the "house style" of their humor, and the host forces laughs a lot. But their deep dives into history and insider knowledge is always interesting.

Boatswain
May 29, 2012
I'm always game for a good takedown :devil:

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-20/erdogan-again-airs-attack-video-at-rally-despite-criticism/10918696

Uhhhh

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

I swear to dog that man can't stop. Also lol at that Gallipoli quote. "We beat you in 1915!"

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

erdogan succcckkssss

Raqqa Flocka Flame
Dec 14, 2017

Here's another WaPo op-ed by Erdogan talking about New Zealand: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m=.3e6ffc1f97f6

Erdogan posted:

At the time, we objected to the association of our faith with terrorism, and pledged to disallow any attempt by terrorists to hijack our religion. Unfortunately, Islamophobia and xenophobia, among other practices incompatible with liberal values, were met with silence in Europe and other parts of the Western world. We cannot afford to allow this again. If the world wants to prevent future assaults similar to the one in New Zealand, it must start by establishing that what happened was the product of a coordinated smear campaign. It should go without saying that the Turkish people won’t just abandon their centuries-old homeland because the terrorists demand it. Nor will we ever let deranged murderers talk us into targeting any religious community, nation or group.

no u

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Atrocious Joe posted:

Artillery firing happening around Idlib between the government and rebels looks like it could escalate.
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/1102266063851524096

Hope to see the Turks get a train run on them.

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