|
Randallteal posted:Lol at DQXI looking like a PS2 game. I don't even like Dragon Quest that much, but that game was a graphical showcase and had fantastic art direction for characters, monsters, and environments. It was one of the best looking games that came out last year, and the best use so far for Nvidia's fancy Ansel screenshot tool. It looks loving incredible, I have no idea how anyone could say it looks like a PS2 game. It's one of the cleanest and most artistically confident/consistent games I've ever played, which I don't doubt is due to the dragon ball man heritage and the fact that it has held a similar tone through each game, as opposed to FF reinventing itself each time (which I love about FF games).
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 05:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 23:35 |
|
|
Any human being who finished DQ8 in its original form is a masochist. Even with the massive improvements from the DS version the game is a goddamn slog.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 05:52
|
|
|
Hyperbole, guys, cmon. It looks identical to DQVIII to me, in terms of direction. It doesn't matter if you crank up the polycount if you still only have four characters with swappable parts and palette swaps to no end.Loads of repeating textures and samey, boring identically designed dungeons as well. The game has wierd camera motion blur, too. .
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 05:58
|
|
|
Jack-Off Lantern posted:Hyperbole, guys, cmon. Your eyes need fixing
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 06:00
|
|
|
I can't get into Dragon Quest cause it looks like DBZ but I don't ever get to rip off my shirt, turn my hair blond and punch all my problems away.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 06:39
|
|
|
Kulkasha posted:Should've been 100 out of 100 nobles impressed  (hosed up the first attempt because whenever I saw an X button prompt I'd press what Nintendo insists is B)
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 06:52
|
|
|
Leal posted:I can't get into Dragon Quest cause it looks like DBZ but I don't ever get to rip off my shirt, turn my hair blond and punch all my problems away. on the other hand it perfectly captures the feeling of very slowly powering up
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 08:55
|
|
|
Barudak posted:Any human being who finished DQ8 in its original form is a masochist. Even with the massive improvements from the DS version the game is a goddamn slog. I didn't realize it was that bad, I had no trouble with it. I was also in middle school and had basically infinite free time but I'm sure that's unrelated.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 09:28
|
|
|
Doc M posted:Got that on my second attempt on the Switch version that minigame has been dramatically toned down in the modern ports because they're based on the ios build, which needed to have fairly generous windows for it because the controls are awkward
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 10:07
|
|
|
What!? Lies! ...I was wondering why it seemed so easy. I thought I'd become a master of QTEs or something 
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 10:10
|
|
|
i'm sorry to have diminished your achievement but it simply had to be said for the 
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 10:12
|
|
|
Its still agony on a mobile phone for the record, but i did 100/100 it
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 10:20
|
|
|
Leal posted:I can't get into Dragon Quest cause it looks like DBZ but I don't ever get to rip off my shirt, turn my hair blond and punch all my problems away. I got into dragonquest cause of Dragonquest Builders, which is low-key addictive as hell, so long as you play it on mute with your own music playing I find the DBZ art thing to be a plus, but tomato tomaato
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 12:34
|
|
|
I thought the DQXI art was cute and fun, then I met one of those fat little space dude's and was like  times a billion
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 12:54
|
|
|
Schwartzcough posted:So had all the other SeeDs, including ones that had been graduated for years and were way more experienced. Why did none of them have any agency? Why did they have to stand around demanding that Squall make decisions for them? Why were all the experienced mercenaries missing for the entire game? Quistis was supposed to be some child prodigy and had been in a leader role for some time, but just like all the rest she couldn't seem to do anything without Squall. Spoilers for a mad old game: I haven’t watched the ending sequence in a long time but when Squall blips back to the past to when Edea receives her powers the first time, isn’t it implied or stated that her and Cid know who he is or can figure it out? So Cid puts Squall in charge all the time because he knows it’s gonna be him who saves the world/time.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 14:44
|
|
|
Epi Lepi posted:Spoilers for a mad old game: Edea figures it out, at least. So yes, it's not unreasonable that Cid pulled some strings. I mean, him naming Squall commander makes a lot more sense that way.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 14:55
|
|
|
FF VIII was a game that really needed another year or two of development
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 15:00
|
|
|
FF8 makes complete and total sense. It might be the only coherent time travel story ever told.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 15:08
|
|
|
zedprime posted:FF8 makes complete and total sense. It might be the only coherent time travel story ever told. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 15:41
|
|
|
zedprime posted:FF8 makes complete and total sense. It might be the only coherent time travel story ever told. I always did think Chrono Trigger was overrated given our heroes go instantly from "tinkering with time travel has severe consequences" to "let's just gently caress over time completely!" NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Feb 21, 2019 |
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 15:48
|
|
|
NikkolasKing posted:I always did think Chrono Trigger was overrated given our heroes go instantly from "tinkering with time travel has sere consequences" to "let's just gently caress over time completely!" the way time in chrono trigger works makes no sense and lucca is smart enough to recognize this early on and just go "gently caress it, we can just do whatever we want" which is why the party proceeds to completely ignore the very concept of causality and reshape the entirety of human history in their own image
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 15:51
|
|
|
And that's why the game is so good. Oh poo poo the earth will be destroyed in a thousand years, time to go make humanity descend from frogmen
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:05
|
|
|
The best ending is when Marle marries Frog and produces Frog people with him.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:10
|
|
|
The best ending is when Dalton vows revenge on you and plans to raise an army in Porre to defeat you all and then Magus gets his memory wiped.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:14
|
|
|
Barudak posted:The best ending is when Dalton vows revenge on you and plans to raise an army in Porre to defeat you all and then Magus gets his memory wiped. And then you start a rock band. Or, alternatively, Not Schala conquer the world because she's a better protagonist than the actual one.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:24
|
|
|
Kulkasha posted:FF VIII was a game that really needed another year or two of development They already hosed over multiple games to make it in the time they had. Imagine all the games that would have remained unfinished in the impossible quest to make ff8 good
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:30
|
|
|
NikkolasKing posted:I always did think Chrono Trigger was overrated given our heroes go instantly from "tinkering with time travel has severe consequences" to "let's just gently caress over time completely!" I think its overrated cause it makes people hate on Good Game Chrono Cross because it wasn't just Chrono Trigger.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:35
|
|
|
Both Xenogears and Chrono Cross got screwed over by FFVIII. Earning my eternal resentment.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:35
|
|
|
MonsieurChoc posted:Both Xenogears and Chrono Cross got screwed over by FFVIII. It still amazes me how fast they were putting out games back then
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:42
|
|
|
Leal posted:I think its overrated cause it makes people hate on Good Game Chrono Cross because it wasn't just Chrono Trigger. That is also a problem, yes. MonsieurChoc posted:Both Xenogears and Chrono Cross got screwed over by FFVIII. Well the Xenogears thing is just a rumor but yeah, FFVIII is certainly the worst of those three games by a lot.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:50
|
|
|
Leal posted:I think its overrated cause it makes people hate on Good Game Chrono Cross because it wasn't just Chrono Trigger. Like the absolute nutso scope and work to give the characters quirks and poo poo is good but doesn't make it a fun game.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:56
|
|
|
Xenogears' second disc 
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 16:56
|
|
|
I think Chrono Trigger is underrated.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:01
|
|
|
FilthyImp posted:CC fucks over the protags from CT for no good reason then shits out an alt-reality tale with too much poo poo to be worth it. Actually getting owned by a loser you let get away (Both Dalton and the time devourer) cause you basically.poo poo on the time space continuum rules and makes total sense.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:03
|
|
|
We have almost 30 years of evidence that the xenogears crew doesn't know how to manage story/game pacing until like last year
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:04
|
|
|
ZenMasterBullshit posted:Actually getting owned by a loser you let get away (Both Dalton and the time devourer) cause you basically.poo poo on the time space continuum rules and makes total sense. yeah I love all that poo poo. also the dungeon that is just the timeline you deleted by saving the future.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:05
|
|
|
Phantasium posted:yeah I love all that poo poo. also the dungeon that is just the timeline you deleted by saving the future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOSrK7plwg0 And then a fisherman kicks your rear end. Apparently there's a theory Miguel is Crono somehow.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:08
|
|
|
Chrono Cross is one of those games I love to bits even if I acknowledge it's flaws. It has stuff that stays with me to this day, like the entire Dead Sea sequence or the stupid rock musical that heals the land.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:11
|
|
|
ZenMasterBullshit posted:Actually getting owned by a loser you let get away (Both Dalton and the time devourer) cause you basically.poo poo on the time space continuum rules and makes total sense. But oh god the story just gets up its own rear end somehow in a way approaching Kingdom Hearts level of dumb.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 23:35 |
|
|
MonsieurChoc posted:Both Xenogears and Chrono Cross got screwed over by FFVIII. It's pretty amazing how thoroughly this can be debunked but people will keep saying it to justify an impotent hate when the other talking points fail.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2019 17:45
|
|
