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luxury handset posted:the lifeboats at the time are also pretty lovely for use in a serious emergency, if the ship starts listing or settling into the water at weird angles. this was a problem with the lusitania, the ship sank so fast and so hard that they could only get a few lifeboats off despite the ship having extra lifeboats because of the titanic disaster six years earlier Modern lifeboats are designed more for this in mind, but in the event of a sudden list this can actually still be a big problem even on modern ships. For instance the Costa Concordia had rolled so quickly that most passengers were not able to board lifeboats, and the MS Estonia is another where the ship pretty much instantly rolled and rendered most of the lifeboats useless. As a bonus for the Estonia a lot of the emergency inflatable lifeboats were upside down in the water which made it harder for survivors to board them. The Costa Concordia wasn't nearly as deadly as it could have been if they hadn't been right offshore and had local help incoming immediately. In both of those cases there were survivors who initially tried to go up to the boats and were told to stay in their cabins by confused staff members, and only made it back up once the lifeboats couldn't be boarded. As far as wrecks go, the actual sinking of the Titanic was almost the best case scenario you could get... if you had enough lifeboat space for everyone on board that is. It took nearly two hours for the ship to sink and the deck was fairly even until the very end.
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More like Car-pathos! More like Car-pathetic! More like TUMBLREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Anyway, the Cappadocean or whatever is a whole ship of fuckin Albert Einsteins eternally clapping at us all for our clever quips and quick witted repartees.
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https://i.imgur.com/JcIBBeo.mp4Captain Foo posted:counterpoint: it was fine second
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That's what happens when you hit a child with a car? I'm never braking for one again that looks like fun.
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Huh, it's like the car equivalent of a Sub-Zero fatality.
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Even maritime disasters in more modern times have had a lot of people get killed (partially) because of lifeboat problems; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Ranger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIahwDy9em4 (Ocean Ranger and Piper Alpha are the two reasons why I will never work on an oil rig in any circumstances)
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i assumed it was posted in the crappy construction thread earlier, i dunno they all blur together here from an osha standpoint though its just a straight cursed image.
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I think this is one of my favourite photographs.
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PittTheElder posted:After some discussion a plan is hatched to rescue themselves. While they might be under 55 m of water, the submarine is 70 m long. They can't pump water out, but they can pump it forward. The hand tools they have will eventually cut through the hull. If they can get the stern up, and a hole cut, they'll at least be able to breathe, and maybe attract some attention from a passing ship. Holy poo poo, I've never heard that story before. That's amazing. It reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) story of when a reporter asked an Apollo astronaut what he would have done if the ascent engine on the LM had failed and stranded them on the moon. "I would have worked on fixing the engine".
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Holy poo poo, I've never heard that story before. That's amazing. The best part of the story is that it sank for good 2 or 3 days later when they tried towing it back.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:More like Car-pathos! More like Car-pathetic! More like TUMBLREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Settle down, beavis
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El_Elegante posted:Settle down, beavis why don't you shrink down to 1/16th your normal scale so you can crawl inside me and operate my body like a horrible bio-mecha so you pantomime me having a normal life tough guy (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Holy poo poo, I've never heard that story before. That's amazing. Apparently Neil Armstrong used to tell kind of lame jokes about the moon landing and when people didn't laugh he would say "ahh, yeah... guess you had to be there".
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big dyke energy posted:Oh man, I was suddenly reminded of this: Wartime Farm and all the sister shows are so great. There's some really bonkers stuff in there I had no idea about how doing laundry was like a 30 hour a week job just for your family.
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sneakyfrog posted:i assumed it was posted in the crappy construction thread earlier, i dunno they all blur together You are correct in all accounts.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:It also helps that since the plant was designed to run for like 20+ years before needing a rebuild, everything is robust as gently caress, which means going completely balls out for 6 hours probably won't kill everyone, but it might shorten the life of the plant by years. I always loved the enormous radial piston engines that aluminum producers used to use to provide the gobs and gobs of electrical power that electrolyzing molten cryolite takes. https://oldmachinepress.com/2014/01/12/nordberg-stationary-radial-engine/ A couple thousand horsepower out of a 12-cylinder 484-liter radial engine...at 400rpm. Disassembling them for inspection was so expensive that the users just ran them until the crankshafts broke. Re: the S-5 sinking (We used to have a maritime disasters thread but I guess it petered out), in 1939 the USS Squalus sank, also during a test dive, also because the main induction valve stayed open and all the water started pouring into the people tube. It sank in a few hundred feet of water and 26 of the crew drowned but they were able to rescue the other 33. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Feb 22, 2019 |
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Memento posted:Apparently Neil Armstrong used to tell kind of lame jokes about the moon landing and when people didn't laugh he would say "ahh, yeah... guess you had to be there". Lol, now he's a legend for at least two reasons.
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big dyke energy posted:Oh man, I was suddenly reminded of this: The classic "shotgun" start from "Flight of the Phoenix". That's where I first learned there was such a thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IACjOvyx5hs
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mostlygray posted:The classic "shotgun" start from "Flight of the Phoenix". That's where I first learned there was such a thing. There was also the intertia starter, where you'd turn a geared crank to spin up a flywheel, and then couple the flywheel to the engine. If you've seen Empire Strikes back it's the sound of the Millenium Falcon failing to make it into hyperspace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zXkVQnVmuo
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Sunken dub stuff - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_S-51_(SS-162) There’s a book called “on the bottom “ about this, Dudes in hard hat diving suits tunneling under a sunk sub in 180’ of water In 1926. Cool, scary stuff
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It's an electrically powered faucet, and that's just the sensor that turns off the tap before the basin can overflow.
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Wartime Farm and all the sister shows are so great. There's some really bonkers stuff in there I had no idea about how doing laundry was like a 30 hour a week job just for your family. That explains nudists then. gently caress wearing clothes if it's a full time job just doing the washing.
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tactlessbastard posted:What's that from? Army of Darkness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf9V-yzCzR4
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E: gah, poo poo
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big dyke energy posted:Oh man, I was suddenly reminded of this: The aircraft engine in the original version of "The Flight of the Phoenix" used the same starter system. A great film.
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mostlygray posted:The classic "shotgun" start from "Flight of the Phoenix". That's where I first learned there was such a thing. George Kennedy was loving huge. He looks twice as big as anyone else in that movie.
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If you want a horrifying kid hit by car commercial, this is a solid one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeUX6LABCEA
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Wartime Farm and all the sister shows are so great. There's some really bonkers stuff in there I had no idea about how doing laundry was like a 30 hour a week job just for your family. As far as documentaries on how things work go, I love The Secret Life of Machines, but this scene on electric lighting scares me. I'm no expert, but I'd at least want some eye protection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ES9TKAf_4&t=195s I recommend watching all of them. There's something charming about these barmy brit country folk telling you how stuff like the vacuum cleaner was invented.
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Phanatic posted:There was also the intertia starter, where you'd turn a geared crank to spin up a flywheel, and then couple the flywheel to the engine. If you've seen Empire Strikes back it's the sound of the Millenium Falcon failing to make it into hyperspace: I went and saw one of the lovely Star Wars movies in the theater with my dad when it first came out (can't remember which one, attack of the clones?) In one of the early scenes there's a bunch of spaceships coming in to land on some planet. The distinctive sound of a turboprop engine is apparently the sound these things make. Dad leans over and says "gee, they really made those B52s to last, huh".
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drgitlin posted:He said "ambos" so he's most likely Australian and they probably don't have those. No need - the coworker wasn't at work today but he WAS at some pretty good lawyers office
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I had some delightful conversations with foreman now and again. Billy B was a pretty decent guy to work for if you stayed on his good side. That wasn't a problem for me as I got along with 98.3% of the people I worked with. We were enjoying a little slack time in his office and speaking of coworkers. I said to him, "I'm not surprised that Sizzlean blew himself up, or that [redacted] came to a bad end. What puzzles me is why has not Tenwatt mangled himself?" Billy thought on that for a brief moment and then said, "Maybe he's just a carrier." ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Hindenburg (RIP) was another kind of animal altogether. The consensus of the guys on the floor was that he really couldn't be two-faced because why the gently caress would he want to wear that one. One day on a whim I stepped into his office and said, "Hey, Hootie, (his signal was binocular hands only really big) will the company reimburse me for personal property destroyed on the job?" "Whaddaya mean?", he asks. I continue, "Well suppose I'm walking down the floor and I cut Miller's wake and then I have to burn my clothes. Will the company buy me new duds?". ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Texas Benny was a piss poor foreman. He did nothing but paperwork, was rarely on the floor, and only told the truth when his lips were not moving. On one of his rare excursions out of air-conditioned comfort, he yelled at me, "WHY ISN'T THAT SANDER RUNNING?" I yelled, "NOT SAFE!" He signaled GO GO GO. I signaled PISSING ON THE CONTROL PANEL. Benny stormed up to the deck and said, "Don't give me any poo poo, start this thing up!" I said, "There's water pouring into the MCC room from a leak in the roof. I ain't starting a goddamn thing until the electricians tell me it's safe." "oh" he says before turning and striding away. For perspective, each sander head motor pulled over way 200 amps on start-up. There were six motors. No freakin' way was I gonna mix that with water.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I wish I had fun signs for scuba diving, other than “GIGANTIC loving SHARK RIGHT BEHIND YOU!”. Our main one for a divemaster following a class was sweeping (for rounding up wayward students). We’ve got all sorts of signs for various animals and things that are going wrong (ears, low on/out of air, don’t know where my buddy is, etc). I’m about to start doing scientific diving, which should be a fun intersection of OSHA and dive physics I did a scientific diving course in my master's, just because I could. Nothing to do with my thesis but it was in the department and counted for required credits. Ropes are evil. Anything like a rope - string, tape measure, hose, long macroalgae, etc. - WILL attempt to loving kill you underwater.
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The matter of the Carpathia's steam plant being 'overclocked' doesn't really change the fact that, against popular myth, she never made 17 knots that morning. At best she made her trials speed of 15.5 and it's more likely that she never went much above her ordinary full service speed of 14 knots. The 17knt claim was based on errors in navigation - Titanic was broadcasting a distress position nearly 20 miles further west than she was and there were (understandable) errors in Rostron's dead reckoning of where he was when he put his ship about. Carpathia was not 58 miles from Titanic. She was probably less than 50. It doesn't change the gallantry of Rostron and his crew, but the idea of a plodding second-rate liner turning into an ocean greyhound as it raced to another ship's aid under the command of its heroic captain is romanticsm of the time that Cunard (and Rostron) did nothing to discourage. Methylethylaldehyde posted:It also helps that since the plant was designed to run for like 20+ years before needing a rebuild, everything is robust as gently caress, which means going completely balls out for 6 hours probably won't kill everyone, but it might shorten the life of the plant by years. At Kempton Park waterworks in London they have two triple-expansion steam engines which provided mains-pressure drinking water to half of the city between the mid-1920s to the early 80s. They're bigger in both physical size and cylinder dimensions than the Titanic's reciprocating engines, which turned out 40,000hp at 79rpm but are only rated at 1050hp at 35rpm. So while the ship's engines needed rebuilding every 20 years and worked for six days at a time with four days' downtime between, the Kempton engines worked one year on, one year off at a time, with three months' overlap working with their sister engine at half speed. So they lasted 60 years without any appreciable wear. In fact they only started having problems in preservation, when starting up the one running engine for an hour a couple of times per week quickly racked up more starting cycles in a year than the engine was supposed to have in two decades.3 Gromit posted:As far as documentaries on how things work go, I love The Secret Life of Machines, but this scene on electric lighting scares me. I'm no expert, but I'd at least want some eye protection. The most OSHA bit of the homemade light bulbs segment is when Tim accidently strikes the welding clamp against the steel table, sending sparks flying...and he doesn't even flinch. That's a man used to minor explosions and fires in his workshop! BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Feb 22, 2019 |
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BalloonFish posted:Boat words Don't worry, there are also people that invest a LOT of time into 'prooving' the Titanic was actually the sistership in a longwinded insurance scam.
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ExecuDork posted:I did a scientific diving course in my master's, just because I could. Nothing to do with my thesis but it was in the department and counted for required credits. Ropes, lines etc have a mind of their own underwater, and a single thought on that mind: DEATH TO DIVERS. There are people where I used to live that make a living diving for Megalodon teeth. It’s deep diving (depth >100ft), and you’re purposefully kicking up the bottom feeling for teeth, so nobody can see a drat thing. Someone dies out there every year looking for those teeth, which supposedly fetch a pretty fair price ($100 per inch, if they’re 6” or longer). Never mind that NC waters are known as the Graveyard of the Atlantic (~5,200 shipwrecks offshore, don’t be the next one) or that you’re going to be routinely running right up to your no-deco limits (or you’ve done the training and have the gear to exceed those, which is  territory for me), or that your gear is getting used to the point of abuse and potential failure...people somehow scrape a living off of those teeth. Seems like a real hard way to make :tenbux:
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BalloonFish posted:At Kempton Park waterworks in London they have two triple-expansion steam engines which provided mains-pressure drinking water to half of the city between the mid-1920s to the early 80s. They're bigger in both physical size and cylinder dimensions than the Titanic's reciprocating engines, which turned out 40,000hp at 79rpm but are only rated at 1050hp at 35rpm. So while the ship's engines needed rebuilding every 20 years and worked for six days at a time with four days' downtime between, the Kempton engines worked one year on, one year off at a time, with three months' overlap working with their sister engine at half speed. So they lasted 60 years without any appreciable wear. In fact they only started having problems in preservation, when starting up the one running engine for an hour a couple of times per week quickly racked up more starting cycles in a year than the engine was supposed to have in two decades. Video of said engines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhlJp1VZMB8
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BalloonFish posted:The matter of the Carpathia's steam plant being 'overclocked' doesn't really change the fact that, against popular myth, she never made 17 knots that morning. At best she made her trials speed of 15.5 and it's more likely that she never went much above her ordinary full service speed of 14 knots. The 17knt claim was based on errors in navigation - Titanic was broadcasting a distress position nearly 20 miles further west than she was and there were (understandable) errors in Rostron's dead reckoning of where he was when he put his ship about. Carpathia was not 58 miles from Titanic. She was probably less than 50. Thank you for the Cool Carpathia Facts and also for not being a squalling rear end in a top hat about it.
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