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Is there a standard practice for pronouncing fix names that don't have an obvious pronunciation? Like, locally we have RIGOT on one of our approaches and I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be "rye-got" or "riggut". Is it just a matter of getting familiar with local practice?
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PT6A posted:Is there a standard practice for pronouncing fix names that don't have an obvious pronunciation? Like, locally we have RIGOT on one of our approaches and I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be "rye-got" or "riggut". Is it just a matter of getting familiar with local practice? Pretty much.
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Feb 3, 2019 15:10
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PT6A posted:Is there a standard practice for pronouncing fix names that don't have an obvious pronunciation? Like, locally we have RIGOT on one of our approaches and I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be "rye-got" or "riggut". Is it just a matter of getting familiar with local practice? The beauty of 5 letter fixes is that you can pronounce them however you want. The BOOSH arrival into KSTL was never once pronounced properly by myself when I was still working over there. BOO is pronounced boo, not buh and you'll never convince me otherwise. MrYenko posted:They were almost all planned and built in the depths of the Cold War bomber gap. They were put out in the sticks so that the nuke(s) targeting them wouldn’t wipe out the city, or so that a nuke targeted on the city center wouldn’t damage the ARTCC. Which of those scenarios you should believe is accurate depends on your individual level of cynicism over the prospects of the Soviets launching a counter-force strike in the early 60s. I figured this and had heard it from others but not in any kind of official way. The facilities that have had the anchor city grow out to them are so lucky.
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Feb 3, 2019 18:14
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FrozenVent posted:Am I reading it correctly that the approach into Las Vegas is “casino city here I come losing gramp’s money”? There's the SINNN.SITEE3 and KSINO.SITEE3 transitions on the SITEE3 STAR, but so far as I can tell there's no 'money' fix on either.
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Feb 4, 2019 02:44
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I think the SBONO (Sonny Bono) into Palm Springs takes the award for most name compressed into 5 letters.
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Feb 4, 2019 03:41
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FrozenVent posted:Am I reading it correctly that the approach into Las Vegas is “casino city here I come losing gramp’s money”? and for the TRUPS 4: SEALs, Ranger, Jarhead, PJ (pararescuemen), USA, We Do, Support, Our, Troops. It's loving ridiculous and I couldn't believe it when they briefed us on these.
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Feb 4, 2019 18:13
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I guess I'm gonna have to read some of those emails regarding our pay because I have no clue what should and shouldn't be on my pay stub.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:01
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We're authorized essential personnel only due to the snow and ice. It's supposed to start snowing more and dump another four to eight inches today into tomorrow. A long weekend and snow day is great and all, but labs were already pushed back due to the shutdown. Now they'll probably get pushed again due to weather. Ugh.
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Feb 11, 2019 15:04
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its all nice on rice posted:Now they'll probably get pushed again due to weather. Ugh. And then again due to the shutdown. PT6A posted:Is there a standard practice for pronouncing fix names that don't have an obvious pronunciation? Do your best. And if one pronunciation sounds funnier or more vulgar than the other, you must use that one.
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Feb 11, 2019 15:25
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The Ferret King posted:And then again due to the shutdown. Yeah we've been talking about it. Really sucks.
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Feb 11, 2019 15:50
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The DFW TRACON building caught fire. If you've seen a ground stop, that's why.
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Feb 13, 2019 20:08
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The Ferret King posted:The DFW TRACON building caught fire. If you've seen a ground stop, that's why. Did they actually tell the controllers on position? I've always just assumed they'd kind of leave us there through a fire or tornado. They sure as poo poo didn't do anything at ZKC when there was a developing wall cloud heading towards the building a few years back. In other news: https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1096133382218698755 Don't go to work Saturday if dear leader doesn't sign the bill. e: https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/1096138892439441409 fknlo fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Feb 14, 2019 |
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Feb 14, 2019 21:27
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Yeah the controllers evacuated and a few reported to the east and west towers at DFW to work the traffic from the tower displays.
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Feb 14, 2019 21:38
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Anyone here work at ZSE? I seem to remember someone that works somewhere in that area at least. I'm looking at places I might want to try and go, and some of the washout rates at these places are insane.  What the hell is going on at Tuscon, Portland, and Salt Lake TRACON's??
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Feb 22, 2019 19:37
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I'm training at ZSE. Pretty sure there's another goon that's CPC in a different area than me. My area doesn't interact with Portland much, so I don't know a whole lot about their situation. My cousins work at the tower, and they aren't fans of the TRACON, but didn't really elaborate much. Mainly complaining about handing off a bunch of overtakes.
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Feb 22, 2019 23:27
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Yeah I'm a CPC at ZSE in the area that deals with Portland a lot. The airspace and procedures are complicated but I had only been at a little up/down before so everything here is way more complex than what I was used to. It can get super busy on nice days, tons of practice approach/VFR work since a lot of flight schools in Oregon train students from Asia. I could see it being a challenge down there, but that washout rate still seems pretty high. Anyone have experience with the hardship process? I will be submitting mine in the next few days after we found out my mom has stage IV pancreatic cancer earlier this month. Hoping I can get moved back down to the DFW area before things get too bad. I hope I qualify at all but it would be nice to know a general timeline for transfer if it is approved so I know what to expect. This whole situation sucks.
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Feb 23, 2019 00:14
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Zochness posted:Anyone have experience with the hardship process? I will be submitting mine in the next few days after we found out my mom has stage IV pancreatic cancer earlier this month. Hoping I can get moved back down to the DFW area before things get too bad. I hope I qualify at all but it would be nice to know a general timeline for transfer if it is approved so I know what to expect. This whole situation sucks. Sorry to hear that man. I don't have direct experience with the hardship process but I've seen it in action. It went way quicker for the 2 people I've seen go through it than they thought it would. I can't give you specifics on their timelines or anything, but once the process got started they were out pretty quickly. Gonna send you a PM in the nearish future to get your opinions on ZSE.
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Feb 23, 2019 00:58
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fknlo posted:Anyone here work at ZSE? I seem to remember someone that works somewhere in that area at least. I work at U90. Despite being a level 8 it's a pretty complex airspace with a very weird and challenging mix of traffic.
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Feb 23, 2019 08:26
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Zochness posted:Anyone have experience with the hardship process? I will be submitting mine in the next few days after we found out my mom has stage IV pancreatic cancer earlier this month. Hoping I can get moved back down to the DFW area before things get too bad. I hope I qualify at all but it would be nice to know a general timeline for transfer if it is approved so I know what to expect. This whole situation sucks. Sorry about your mom. When my hardship got approved I was gone within a month.
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Feb 23, 2019 08:27
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I put in a request to transfer to another area today, hopefully that will lead somewhere. I think they might be able to switch me with another transfer or something along those lines. It would be cool if they did article 46 bids since there are several areas that need people while at least 2 are fat, but Denver Center doesn't do those!Iucounu posted:I work at U90. Despite being a level 8 it's a pretty complex airspace with a very weird and challenging mix of traffic. We were speculating that maybe you guys had some weird military poo poo or something along those lines. fknlo posted:Gonna send you a PM in the nearish future to get your opinions on ZSE. I haven't done this because I now see that you don't have PM's 
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Feb 25, 2019 02:08
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No idea from a controller side, but from a pilot side... PDX always takes us off the STAR very early and then slam dunks us in. I've come to expect it now. One of the few times I've said unable to a controller. They get a little happy with the Q400s and then the jets come and they don't get that "slow down, go down, stable approach" thing. Challenging for the new hires to make it work for them, but I usually can. Also, that little drat airport right on final always gives us RA's. ALWAYS.
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Feb 25, 2019 05:48
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The Slaughter posted:Also, that little drat airport right on final always gives us RA's. ALWAYS. As someone who flies out of VUO now and again, suck it! Pearson owns. Untowered field (usually) but has a dedicated "advisory" frequency staffed at PDX. Also, they bring in a temporary tower on a trailer whenever PDX closes the south runway since it doubles-ish the number of scary conflicts. I love fucky airspace things 
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Feb 25, 2019 08:07
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Rincey posted:
Boeing Field's like that. Want to fly south? Well you're going to fly southeast for awhile at 1,500', because if you go straight south it's into SeaTac's airspace. SeaTac, by the way, is both a Class D tower and a Class B surface area. Can't go east, either, because that's Renton's airspace. Want to go straight up? Class Bravo shelf at 1,100', so don't. We've caused several RAs (including, if you believe the stories, a BA 747) by pegging the VSI too high turning downwind on the west side of the field. The fuckiest thing is that the area over Lake Washington that's nominally Boeing's airspace... isn't, until you get to 800' MSL. Below that, it's controlled by Renton Tower. That's not marked on the chart, either- you have to check Renton's Chart Supplement, because it's not listed in BFI's. This is mostly for the benefit of the seaplane base that's just off RNT to the north.
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Feb 25, 2019 08:21
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a patagonian cavy posted:SeaTac, by the way, is both a Class D tower and a Class B surface area. Come again?
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Feb 25, 2019 16:21
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The Ferret King posted:Come again?  There's a little bit of Class D that extends west and east out of the Class B surface area. That 2,000' B shelf over the Sound west of SeaTac would allow people to get quite low and close to SeaTac, which I'm guessing they didn't want for whatever reason, so they kept the tower. The vast majority of the charted Class D airspace, though, is also Class B.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:27
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The Slaughter posted:No idea from a controller side, but from a pilot side... PDX always takes us off the STAR very early and then slam dunks us in. I've come to expect it now. Do they slow you down a lot after taking you off the STAR? I know the STARs into Portland have higher speed allowances than the ones feeding Seattle.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:31
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Going back to the fix pronunciation I say, “cleared direct a-whore, report cock-suck” The girl no one likes says, cleared direct ah-ore, cleared rnav 13 approch” https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1903/10367R13.PDF
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Feb 28, 2019 17:56
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TangoFox posted:Going back to the fix pronunciation Those are some really good fix names.
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Feb 28, 2019 19:48
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D side labs are done and we're headed to the floor after next week! One out of the six of us had a deal when he gave a bad clearance, so he'll have to retake tomorrow. 98% chance he'll pass. Hello Sunday pay. Goodbye weekends.
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Mar 20, 2019 23:47
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its all nice on rice posted:D side labs are done and we're headed to the floor after next week! Grats. Get used to not seeing weekends. It’s not that big a deal.
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Mar 21, 2019 00:03
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its all nice on rice posted:D side labs are done and we're headed to the floor after next week! Congrats dude! Talk to you soon!
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Mar 21, 2019 00:34
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What's the timeline on going from a higher level facility to a lower level one and then back to a higher level facility where you get the raise for moving up facility levels? I think it's 2 years, but is that 2 years certified or just 2 years at the lower level facility?
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Apr 3, 2019 18:38
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I think save-pay is just two years at the lower level facility.
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Apr 3, 2019 22:59
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My buddy just got back from a trip taking a 172 from Calgary to Orlando and back, and he says with regards to all you yankee controllers you guys are the best to deal with, and the controllers up here are mean, unhelpful and stupid in comparison. Also apparently Canadian FBOs, especially at smaller airports, loving suck compared to what you get in the States.
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Apr 4, 2019 05:06
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MrYenko posted:I think save-pay is just two years at the lower level facility. Thanks. That's what I thought but there's always the chance of there being some dumb stipulation.
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Apr 4, 2019 21:28
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Hey maybe you guys can save me a couple hours of frustration — is there any way my wife can check her faa.gov email from her iPad? I’ve successfully dodged this question since the Lotus Notes only days, but looks like my luck has run out.
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Apr 9, 2019 19:33
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Hey maybe you guys can save me a couple hours of frustration — is there any way my wife can check her faa.gov email from her iPad? Not in the FAA but very experienced with Notes — SmartCloud Notes works (poorly) in Safari.
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Apr 9, 2019 20:47
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Is there some reason you can't do it from the browser? Email.faa.gov
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Apr 10, 2019 02:38
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I will check, but when she showed me yesterday all I saw was just a bunch of “untrusted site, certificate expired” and some sort of proxy server errors. Edit: and apparently today it works. Could be yesterday she was trying to get through the DoT mail portal. Thanks. WithoutTheFezOn fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Anyone know why ORD is ground stopped for "Technical Issues" or is that just atc slang for "No one at ATC or the airlines bothered to check the weather forecast and now were all getting our asses kicked by a surprise blizzard?"
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