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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
So that lassie is saying she hates anti-Semitism while identifying with one of the main baddies in the piss poor allegory for Nazis in Harry Potter?

Fair enough.

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Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
Miss Shiv Palpatine

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

MikeCrotch posted:

I am going to this today!

Also: she is shook

lol give yourself if a prize if you guessed the centrist splinter faction would throw their lot in with the Tories and May's crumbling incompetent regime.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

PhilippAchtel posted:

Did that pompous shitbag who called a journalist a self hating Jew live on the air ever apologize or get a shot to the jaw?

lol

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

So when's the voting on May's new deal and how badly is Europe already being blamed for potential no deal?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
I think the way people are rationing is wrong. There will still be food flowing in, I guess, but certain things (especially from Mediterranean Europe) will become much more expensive and go overnight from being an affordable product to a luxury good. There will be adequate beans. I would be stocking up on olives and wine and hard cheese and that sort of thing. But even if I am wrong and it will be the Corn Laws/Famine 2.0, those things would also make for good barter, and I imagine the exchange rate for a pack of Jamon will be many cans of beans.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
The ukmt will be regretting not following my advice to just get fat for no deal so the lack of food isn't an issue

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

An insane mind posted:

So when's the voting on May's new deal and how badly is Europe already being blamed for potential no deal?

Europe still gets blamed as much ad two years ago in the two exciting flavours of " The EU doesn't relent to our self-evidently righteous demands, they are to blame for no deal" and "The EU is so neoliberal it forced our hand to vote to expel all the foreigners, the EU is to blame for all Brexit items“.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Randler posted:

Europe still gets blamed as much ad two years ago in the two exciting flavours of " The EU doesn't relent to our self-evidently righteous demands, they are to blame for no deal" and "The EU is so neoliberal it forced our hand to vote to expel all the foreigners, the EU is to blame for all Brexit items“.

Also all the Tory Brexit ads crying about all the fees and money the poor UK was forced to fork over to the EU.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


An insane mind posted:

So when's the voting on May's new deal and how badly is Europe already being blamed for potential no deal?

There should be a vote on the 27th but who knows if that'll just be delayed again because this process is basically endless march towards nowhere

And EU will be blamed completely because we're a country completely detached from reality and with a hugely overinflated sense of our worth.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

There should be a vote on the 27th but who knows if that'll just be delayed again because this process is basically endless march towards nowhere

I'm sure a delay or the UK begging for delay is the most likely outcome.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


A delay to leaving the EU would be the best possible outcome but this is hellworld, remember? So what I meant is the HoC will just put off voting on May's deal or lack thereof and we'll just slide out of the EU by default because of abject cowardice from these miserable dipshits.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

forkboy84 posted:

A delay to leaving the EU would be the best possible outcome but this is hellworld, remember? So what I meant is the HoC will just put off voting on May's deal or lack thereof and we'll just slide out of the EU by default because of abject cowardice from these miserable dipshits.

the elites' plan is to make may take the fall for the inevitable hard brexit, and they're betting that she's too stupid to get out of it

they're right, of course

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

etalian posted:

I'm sure a delay or the UK begging for delay is the most likely outcome.

I wish I shared your optimism.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
we only get a few months delay at which point May would just start the whole process over again until the european elections are about to take place

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

etalian posted:

I'm sure a delay or the UK begging for delay is the most likely outcome.

the uk won't beg for a delay because they think the eu will rather than go without the uk, which clearly contributes 100% of the eu's money and definitely isn't total deadweight

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Yinlock posted:

the uk won't beg for a delay because they think the eu will rather than go without the uk, which clearly contributes 100% of the eu's money and definitely isn't total deadweight

I love how hapless they seem for basic negotiation tactics especially how they seem to have zero leverage in this situation.

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012
There will be no delay.

There will be no deal.

There is only 350 million quid extra a week for the NHS :hmmyes:

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
The best possibly scenario would be a hard Brexit but with a delay until June giving the EU and the Member States two more months to coordinate and fine-tune their current Instruments for mitigating the impact of Brexit on their interests.

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
I still don't understand why britain isn't out after 2 years since doing the article 50 trick for leaving the eu

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

etalian posted:

I love how hapless they seem for basic negotiation tactics especially how they seem to have zero leverage in this situation.

it turns out that nationalists are insanely poo poo at bargaining

and everything else

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

etalian posted:

I love how hapless they seem for basic negotiation tactics especially how they seem to have zero leverage in this situation.

May's negotiating stance has been to get as close to no deal as possible so her deal passes. This has done massive damage to the economy already because tons of businesses have pulled out as a result

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




They're okay at xenophobia I guess

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


etalian posted:

I love how hapless they seem for basic negotiation tactics especially how they seem to have zero leverage in this situation.

The Trade Secretary went to Japan for trade talks and hosed off the Japanese by not having enough staff who actually have a loving clue what they are talking about to make it worthwhile.

Genuinely the stupidest government we've had in living memory. Including being governed by people who thought the answer to the Great Depression was to go back on the Gold Standard.

Falcorum
Oct 21, 2010

Mackers posted:

There will be no delay.

There will be no deal.

There is only 350 million quid extra a week for the NHS :hmmyes:

I believe the right honourable gentleman will find that there will be adequate delaying.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Kurnugia posted:

I still don't understand why britain isn't out after 2 years since doing the article 50 trick for leaving the eu

They triggered article 50 on March 29th, 2017

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Nothing will ever top threatening China with a planeless and escortless carrier while negotiating a trade deal.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 16 days!)

forkboy84 posted:

The Trade Secretary went to Japan for trade talks and hosed off the Japanese by not having enough staff who actually have a loving clue what they are talking about to make it worthwhile.

Genuinely the stupidest government we've had in living memory. Including being governed by people who thought the answer to the Great Depression was to go back on the Gold Standard.

Tories are worse at negotiating trade deals than Trump lmao

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Randler posted:

The best possibly scenario would be a hard Brexit but with a delay until June giving the EU and the Member States two more months to coordinate and fine-tune their current Instruments for mitigating the impact of Brexit on their interests.

the best possible scenario is the messianic return of king arthur, riding onto the scene in the last minute carrying enough food and sperm for britain to start its second golden age

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

twoday posted:

They triggered article 50 on March 29th, 2017

yeah but didn't someone here say that after next month they still wouldn't be out? that there was yet another transition period or whatever? I can't keep up

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Randler posted:

Nothing will ever top threatening China with a planeless and escortless carrier while negotiating a trade deal.

How dare China ignore the mighty historical precedent of our Gunboat Diplomacy? If it worked in the age of Disraeli surely it'll work again today.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
if we no deal and then may loses a vote of no confidence we might end up with a PM who'll go for a US trade deal instantly in which case rip food standards and the NHS

killing the the 5th biggest employer in the world and free healthcare to own the libs

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
This Labour speech in Broxtowe is weird, clearly it's "The reconciliation tour". Richard Burgon is praising the Blair government and Gloria di Piero is mildly praising Corbyn

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Jose posted:

if we no deal and then may loses a vote of no confidence we might end up with a PM who'll go for a US trade deal instantly in which case rip food standards and the NHS

killing the the 5th biggest employer in the world and free healthcare to own the libs

I thought she couldn't lose a party no confidence vote due to winning one recently. Isn't the other kind one that triggers elections?

I do not understand your political system, no I do not.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
if we no deal corbyn will surely put in another one and it's likely to pass

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Right but doesn't that trigger elections? Maybe you'll get a PM that isn't complete poo poo!

Okay, yeah, that seems unlikely.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Drunkboxer posted:

the best possible scenario is the messianic return of king arthur, riding onto the scene in the last minute carrying enough food and sperm for britain to start its second golden age

as long as he completes the work of driving the saxons from britannia

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

Randler posted:

Nothing will ever top threatening China with a planeless and escortless carrier while negotiating a trade deal.

Liam Fox and Chris Grayling are finding someone to hold their beer rn.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

Including being governed by people who thought the answer to the Great Depression was to go back on the Gold Standard.

lol

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