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An insane mind posted:How is this crap going to help, even to potential trading partners Britain must look like a train wreck. May doesn't give a poo poo about anything except her deal passing which this makes more likely
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:If the metaphorical bus driver, Teresa may, driving her country off an metaphorical cliff/into a metaphorical wall was an actual bus driver driving off an actual cliff or into an actual wall, people could say, "oi look out she's crazy she's driving us off a cliff/into a wall!" And maybe people would ask her to not or something idk Everyone on the bus is arguing about how fast to drive over the cliff
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Feb 24, 2019 15:00
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May turning to Bercow "my dog ate the meaningful vote sir"
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Feb 24, 2019 15:12
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What deal are they even voting on? The new one May "negotiated" with no backstop which the EU has already stated they will not accept? Because it's kind of a grim joke to refer to that as the meaningful vote.
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Feb 24, 2019 16:05
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MikeCrotch posted:May turning to Bercow "my dog ate the meaningful vote sir" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7EIZl4raY
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Feb 24, 2019 16:06
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Jose posted:they really have no policy at all lol
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Feb 24, 2019 16:15
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I just want all the antisemitism to stop  Is there a timeline of antisemitic comments or sentiment that has been expressed by Labour by its members or in its platforms? Can there be a 'continuation' of something that never started in the first place?
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Feb 24, 2019 16:46
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I just want all the antisemitism to stop The vast majority of reports, dossiers and complaints about Labour antisemitism were found to be incidents not even having been committed by Labour members. Something like 1% of Labour members have genuinely been antisemitic, and the vast majority of them have (justly) been disciplined or are in the process of being disciplined. I do not recall any official platforms, policies or statements that could be conceived of as antisemitic except insofar that repeatedly stating your firm opposition to antisemitism can be interpreted as confirming antisemitism. It is a blatant smear campaign, enacted because they seem genuinely incapable of finding something better to smear Corbyn and the members who support him with, and because antisemitism or lack of it are equally evidence of antisemitism. I'm aware that all of the above could be interpreted as antisemitic.
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In 2011, when Margaret Thatcher was patron and William Hague was honorary president of their group, members of the Oxford University Conservative Association (OUCA) were accused by their own officers of 'anti-Semitism, debauchery and snobbery'. Antisemitism was seen at its 'alcohol-fuelled' weekly meetings, styled "port and policy meetings", where many association members would regularly sing a Nazi-themed song that included the lines 'Dashing through the Reich / killing lots of Kike'. In October 2014 UCL Conservative Society, the oldest Conservative Society, of which Margaret Thatcher was Honorary President up until her death, was ordered by UCL's Student Union to apologise for creating a 'toxic environment' in which discrimination, including antisemitism, was the culture. Racist comments from members of the society included, "Jews own everything, we all know it’s true. I wish I was Jewish, but my nose isn’t long enough". The antisemitic conspiracy theory "Cultural Marxism" was evident in the Conservative party in during 2018. In Scotland in July, the chairperson for the youth wing of the Scottish Conservatives, Conservative Future Scotland, was accused of antisemitism after using the phrase. The Scottish Green Party MSP Ross Greer wrote to Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson asking her to treat the issue seriously because, according to him, the 'conspiracy theory [was] quite literally created by the Nazis to demonise Jews as the enemy within'. The idea of "Cultural Marxism" emerged again at the Conservative Party Conference in October. Copies of a booklet called Moralitis: A Cultural Virus, by Robert Oulds (director of the Bruges Group) and Niall McCrae, were available at a Bruges Group meeting. The booklet espoused right-wing conspiracy theories with antisemitic origins, including "Cultural Marxism" and the Great Replacement. At a Plymouth University Conservatives party in October 2018, society members were pictured wearing a Hitler-style moustache, making what appeared to be white supremacist hand gestures, and wearing clothing with homemade slogans on them, like "Jude" (German for Jew) with a Star of David, and Enoch (thought likely to be a reference to the Conservative right-wing MP Enoch Powell). But....but Corbyn is the real anti-Semite for suggesting that firing guided rockets into refugee camps is maybe a bit cruel.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I just want all the antisemitism to stop I hear James Corbin slapped a Jewish kid in his class, but I don't remember where I read this or if it's true so I don't really have an opinion on this one way or another
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Feb 24, 2019 17:54
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Jose posted:yeah its march 12th now lol Yeah whats the deal with this? Is this the same deal that failed spectacularly, or is this the new deal the EU already said was a no go because of northern ireland?
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Elevator Screamer posted:In 2011, when Margaret Thatcher was patron and William Hague was honorary president of their group, members of the Oxford University Conservative Association (OUCA) They're just scumfuck ghouls and anyone who believes them is a rube. That's all really.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:02
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1099724409097674753
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Feb 24, 2019 18:53
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Kick the can does seem the most likely outcome. Let's let the next generation figure out how to deal with this mistake made by boomers.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:09
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Now that won't do at all.  (I'm also not sure if the UK side needs approval of the Commons for that, which might kill this option as well.)
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Feb 24, 2019 19:09
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Cursed twitt
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Feb 24, 2019 19:10
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Brexit now, Brexit tomorrow, Brexit forever.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:11
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If they delay this nonsense, how long would it take before another general election is called?
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Feb 24, 2019 19:11
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this doesn’t seem inconsistent with the current EU position of only doing an extension if something changes in the government
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Feb 24, 2019 19:15
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At this rate, the can is going to start getting a more spherical shape from all the kicking, which is actually a good sign for the UK's chances in the next world cup.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:21
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In Valencia I can rent one of the public bikes for a maximum of 30m before I get charged. I can, however, return a bike to a station and then immediately withdraw it again for another 30m with no negative repercussions. Brexit works the same way.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:21
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Captain Splendid posted:In Valencia I can rent one of the public bikes for a maximum of 30m before I get charged. Except in Brexit the 30m stands for thirty meters.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:28
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The EU continues to fail humanity BREXIT MEANS BREXIT
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Feb 24, 2019 19:38
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I just want all the antisemitism to stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party tag yourself, i'm the mural scandal quote:The 2012 Freedom for Humanity was a street mural painted in east London by American artist Mear One. The artwork depicted what Mear One described as an "elite banker cartel" of the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and the Morgans and others sitting around a Monopoly-style board game on the backs of men with dark complexions.[118][119] The mural was later removed by Tower Hamlets council. Lutfur Rahman, then Mayor of Tower Hamlets, said "the images of the bankers perpetuate antisemitic propaganda about conspiratorial Jewish domination of financial and political institutions".[120] In response, Mear One denied that the mural was antisemitic; he said that the mural was about "class and privilege", and pointed out that the figures depicted included both "Jewish and white Anglos" and "I chose to depict the likenesses of such early turn of the century Robber Barons, specifically Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Warburg, as well [as] Aleister Crowley".[121].[119][122] Mear One also said that: "Some of the older white Jewish folk in the local community had an issue with me portraying their beloved #Rothschild or #Warburg etc as the demons they are" (in reference to the Rothschild and Warburg banking families).[123][124] According to historian Deborah E. Lipstadt, as well as contemporary local media, the Jewish caricatures resembled the imagery used by Der Stürmer in Nazi Germany.[124] ken livingston's "hitler was a zionist actually" was a good one too (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 24, 2019 20:16
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cowards. pull the loving trigger no balls
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Feb 24, 2019 20:17
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Fallen Hamprince posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party i'm all the empirical evidence showing anti-semitism is no more widespread in the Labour party than in the public at large
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Feb 24, 2019 20:33
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How is it going to happen when the EU has been adamant that it will not extend past their elections
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Fallen Hamprince posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party Hey let me explain why a total guyontheside non-Brit itt has come to really dislike you!  Basically earlier on not knowing the lay of the boggy land over there, your seemingly level headed posts about this sort of stuff seemed trustable. Until nearly every single time they turned out to be complete bullshit. Of course it took me a bit to realize this! Meaning you come in with a non-obviously crazy tone, and drop slimey turd tabloid level falsehoods. You're basically British media in human form. See, here this time it took a good two seconds to scroll the wikipedia link and see a bunch of the entries are stuff like this. quote:In May 2016, the vice-chair of Momentum, Jackie Walker, who describes herself as of being mixed Jewish and African descent and whose mother was Jamaican, was briefly suspended from Party membership for commenting on Facebook on the degree of participation of Jewish people in the Atlantic slave trade.[77] Jon Lansman, the chair of Momentum, defended her against these claims, describing the media campaigning against Walker as "a 'lynch mob' whose interest in combating racism is highly selective".[78] Keep up the great work!
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Taintrunner posted:cowards. pull the loving trigger no balls
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Grape posted:Hey let me explain why a total guyontheside non-Brit itt has come to really dislike you! we've done the "are the allegations of antisemitism accurate or a smear?" thing 5000 times itt and nobody is persuaded that their initial position is different so there's no use doing it again. that article has a list of all the allegations of note including responses and rebuttals organized chronologically, which is what i interpret Compagnie Tommy was asking for. feel free to post a timeline or article you think is better though!
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Fallen Hamprince posted:we've done the "are the allegations of antisemitism accurate or a smear?" thing 5000 times itt and nobody is persuaded that their initial position is different so there's no use doing it again. that article has a list of all the allegations of note including responses and rebuttals organized chronologically, which is what i interpret Compagnie Tommy was asking for. feel free to post a timeline or article you think is better though! shut the gently caress up l*beral
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Fallen Hamprince posted:we've done the "are the allegations of antisemitism accurate or a smear?" thing 5000 times itt and nobody is persuaded that their initial position is different so there's no use doing it again. that article has a list of all the allegations of note including responses and rebuttals organized chronologically, which is what i interpret Compagnie Tommy was asking for. feel free to post a timeline or article you think is better though! I don't care about changing your mind or whatever the gently caress lol. You're a fake news huckster who tosses trash around the thread, and I'm just pointing that out. Or wait, ooooh, having a stupid debate with a transparently bad faith actor, let me get on that poo poo!11!! let do this!! 
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Fallen Hamprince posted:we've done the "are the allegations of antisemitism accurate or a smear?" thing 5000 times itt and nobody is persuaded that their initial position is different so there's no use doing it again. its almost as if one side is wrong and refuses to admit it 
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Bankers are actually poo poo and Corbyn's not an anti-loving-semite but an anti-loving banker. And his stance on Israel maybe killing a few less children is not anti-loving semetic but anti-loving Israel doing warcrimes.
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An insane mind posted:Bankers are actually poo poo and Corbyn's not an anti-loving-semite but an anti-loving banker. And his stance on Israel maybe killing a few less children is not anti-loving semetic but anti-loving Israel doing warcrimes. wow! that’s incredibly problematic! how will labor possibly recover?!
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I bet Corbyn can't loving wait for Brexit.
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Avirosb posted:I bet Corbyn can't loving wait for Brexit. His old IRA buddies are setting up arms caches as we speak
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Grape posted:Hey let me explain why a total guyontheside non-Brit itt has come to really dislike you! in short, gently caress Off Hamprince letting him back in was an atrocity
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its almost as if one side is wrong and refuses to admit it this but un-english-ironically
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