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Fister Roboto posted:13 doesn't have limit breaks, unless you mean the unique abilities every character gets, which are extremely good. In so far as Lightning's was astonishingly good at its job and the rest of them I can't even remember the name of other than Death
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Zvahl posted:In so far as Lightning's was astonishingly good at its job and the rest of them I can't even remember the name of other than Death Lightning's, Sazh's, and Hope's all add a huge amount to the chain gauge on staggered enemies, with Sazh's being the best at +170%. Fang's and Snow's just do a fuckton of damage at the cost of ending the stagger, so they're not quite as good.
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Fister Roboto posted:13 doesn't have limit breaks, unless you mean the unique abilities every character gets, which are extremely good. gestalt mode is pretty much the FF13 equivalent of a limit break
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Fister Roboto posted:13 doesn't have limit breaks, unless you mean the unique abilities every character gets, which are extremely good. I meant the eidolons, which take a huge chunk of TP to not do a hell of a lot. I remember Odin being ok and Hecatoncheir being abusable for grinding before getting access to Death spam on Adamantoises, but that's really about it. They're cool but you could do more with that time with just leaving your party out in most cases and still have that TP for other things.
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cock hero flux posted:the way time in chrono trigger works makes no sense and lucca is smart enough to recognize this early on and just go "gently caress it, we can just do whatever we want" which is why the party proceeds to completely ignore the very concept of causality and reshape the entirety of human history in their own image Lucca recognizes the hands of fate at work and flat out ascribes time travel to Some Strange Force attempting to prevent the big fire. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Actually getting owned by a loser you let get away (Both Dalton and the time devourer) cause you basically.poo poo on the time space continuum rules and makes total sense. What can I say? Providence smiles on Porre, just look at that loving forest. :SmugPorre:
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When I'm done with 9 ill be heading to another FF I've never played, which are: IV, X-2, XII, XIII (Trilogy), XV Is XIII really that much of a dumpster fire that I should read a plot synopsis and move on to XIII-2 if it were to get chosen?
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Nihilarian posted:Trance would be fine if a) you could choose when it goes off or b) it happened so often it didn't matter that it was random the trance formula is +(rand)1~spirit every time you either get hit, and trance triggers when it's >=255. with High Tide equipped, it's just +spirit so trance happens every six times they're hit, because if you're at a high enough level to have an expensive rear end skill like High Tide equipped, your Spr stat should probably be maxed at 50
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The White Dragon posted:the trance formula is +(rand)1~spirit every time you either get hit, and trance triggers when it's >=255. with High Tide equipped, it's just +spirit so trance happens every six times they're hit, because if you're at a high enough level to have an expensive rear end skill like High Tide equipped, your Spr stat should probably be maxed at 50 yeah but then you need to suffer from ff9's weakness more often: way to much waiting during animations.
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Feb 24, 2019 20:52
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TheHoosier posted:When I'm done with 9 ill be heading to another FF I've never played, which are: XIII isn't a "dumpster fire" it just has a really dumb story and takes way too long to teach you everything about the battle system
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Feb 24, 2019 20:56
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Fister Roboto posted:Lightning's, Sazh's, and Hope's all add a huge amount to the chain gauge on staggered enemies, with Sazh's being the best at +170%. Fang's and Snow's just do a fuckton of damage at the cost of ending the stagger, so they're not quite as good. I mean eventually you're going to run out of stagger so they make a good finisher.
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lobster22221 posted:yeah but then you need to suffer from ff9's weakness more often: way to much waiting during animations. people need to get over this untrue bullshit. this hasn't been a problem unofficially since epsxe added frameskip in the early 2000s, and then it was canonized in 2016 when the remaster added the 4x speed toggle
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TheHoosier posted:When I'm done with 9 ill be heading to another FF I've never played, which are: I like 12 a lot. Just bought XV today.
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Candlelight Virgil posted:I like 12 a lot. Just bought XV today.
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TheHoosier posted:When I'm done with 9 ill be heading to another FF I've never played, which are: 
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Scalding Coffee posted:You would be reading about the plot anyway since the game doesn't tell you much about it through cutscenes. The rng gods choose for me so I guess we'll see. 9 is great so far but I'm glad the 4x speed exists
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Feb 24, 2019 21:21
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Dr Pepper posted:I mean eventually you're going to run out of stagger so they make a good finisher. True, but since you can only use those moves with your active party leader, there's an opportunity cost involved. I'd take fast chain buildup over a lot of damage any day. 13-2 fixed this problem by letting you switch party leaders in battle, but they made those ultimate moves one-use only.
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The White Dragon posted:people need to get over this untrue bullshit. this hasn't been a problem unofficially since epsxe added frameskip in the early 2000s, and then it was canonized in 2016 when the remaster added the 4x speed toggle I don't know man, I'm playing IX for the first time, had never heard people talking about the animations before, and have definitely been annoyed by them.
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alpha_destroy posted:I don't know man, I'm playing IX for the first time, had never heard people talking about the animations before, and have definitely been annoyed by them. Its still a great game, but it really is a flaw. The speed up is a great bandaid for the issue though.
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alpha_destroy posted:I don't know man, I'm playing IX for the first time, had never heard people talking about the animations before, and have definitely been annoyed by them. that's the point, if you don't like it you can speed past em
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The actual bad thing about the animations is that ATBs keep filling during them which can lead to some weird behavior and consequences, like speed not actually doing anything. You can really see how that led to them overhauling the system in FF10.
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The long animations are hilarious when regen keeps on ticking through it all. Just got hit by Kuja's Flare Star? Just have Dagger cast Ark and watch all that HP come back for free. 
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lobster22221 posted:Its still a great game, but it really is a flaw. The speed up is a great bandaid for the issue though.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:The long animations are hilarious when regen keeps on ticking through it all. Just got hit by Kuja's Flare Star? Just have Dagger cast Ark and watch all that HP come back for free. And conversely it made buffs last about half a turn.
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Scalding Coffee posted:The worst thing was the bosses not letting you steal their rare items without 10 mins of stealing. and those steal rates.... I spent so much time fighting beatrix in burmecia.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:The long animations are hilarious when regen keeps on ticking through it all. Just got hit by Kuja's Flare Star? Just have Dagger cast Ark and watch all that HP come back for free. It was even funnier in FF7 when people realized that regen kept ticking when you opened the playstation disc tray and the game froze.
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lobster22221 posted:and those steal rates.... I spent so much time fighting beatrix in burmecia. don't make your battles artificially longer by waiting for rare steals! I don't think there's anything that's so important that you can't wait for it if you miss it, so just steal for as long as it takes you to kill it and move on. I don't think I've ever stolen that flute but I never use Eiko so it doesn't even matter
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lobster22221 posted:and those steal rates.... I spent so much time fighting beatrix in burmecia. that fight is the worst offender of useless steal rewards because you can buy the things she drops pretty much right after that fight, and the handful of times you have control of steiner between beatrix and the time you can buy it, he'll probably have so many new weapons to wear that you won't even have time to get enough AP to learn all of it morallyobjected posted:don't make your battles artificially longer by waiting for rare steals! I don't think there's anything that's so important that you can't wait for it if you miss it, so just steal for as long as it takes you to kill it and move on. I don't think I've ever stolen that flute but I never use Eiko so it doesn't even matter there are a couple exceptions but they don't pop up until like the third disc. everything you can steal from the black waltzes, and the fire/ice/thunder rods are really good though
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YoshiOfYellow posted:The long animations are hilarious when regen keeps on ticking through it all. Just got hit by Kuja's Flare Star? Just have Dagger cast Ark and watch all that HP come back for free. That's how I beat Ark the first time I played. I was completely unprepared but happened to have Auto-Regen on someone and he couldn't do enough damage to overcome his long attack animations. I taped the X button down and walked away.
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i got one of them 4k HDR gimmicks and man the lighting in ffxv looks so great now
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Super No Vacancy posted:i got one of them 4k HDR gimmicks and man the lighting in ffxv looks so great now People complain that it can be too bright, but I reckon FFXV uses HDR to awesome effect and is a better example of it along with GOW and HZD.
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Super No Vacancy posted:i got one of them 4k HDR gimmicks and man the lighting in ffxv looks so great now Just wait for your first Summon. Holy shitballs my mouth was just  the whole time
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FF13 is a good game and FF13-2 is not as good because the changes it made destabilizes the games battle system even if there are some QoL improvements 13 would have really used.
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FF13-2 sucks primarily because there are only 2 playable characters. The other reasons are because those characters both suck and are boring and also because they tried to address the complaint of "there are no towns" in the worst and most boring way possible and also they tried to cram in a lovely moogle mascot and also the music is terrible.
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Elephant Ambush posted:FF13-2 sucks primarily because there are only 2 playable characters. The gently caress?
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Genuinely, no joke, just skip to Lightning Returns and do not look back. You will not miss anything.
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Elephant Ambush posted:FF13-2 sucks primarily because there are only 2 playable characters. Everything about this post is wrong. Just flat out incorrect.
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Fister Roboto posted:Everything about this post is wrong. Just flat out incorrect. lol no
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Elephant Ambush posted:also the music is terrible. Yeah no
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I admire 13-2 if only for the scene where you’re stuck in an endless loop with four dialogue options and the correct one is to scream at Hope through time. 13-2 embraces the utter stupidity of its setting and I respect it for that.
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