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mcmagic posted:Erust is a completely different situation. This is a person who was in a work situation where she was being paid to advance evil people who are actively causing bad things to happen to vulnerable people. She knowingly took a job pushing that agenda and working to get evil people into power. And those evil people were lovely to her. So what do you deserve for posting garbage like this in addition to the usual shitposting?
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Mahoning posted:Hire more people to review it. this doesn't have anything to do with me telling you that you can't use the same system to detect copyright content to detect inappropriate content. because you can't technologically it's simply much easier to detect copyright violations than hate speech
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mcmagic posted:LOL @ working for and promoting the worst people in the country and then getting surprised when you aren't treated well. I couldn't possibly have less sympathy for her. So rape's now cool if they're a republican? gently caress off with this poo poo, it's the worst hot take I've seen here in forever, and we just had someone who wants the ability to harass congresspeople in their homes.
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RZA Encryption posted:I fully understand the volume of videos uploaded to youtube daily. I'm talking about the youtube kids app, which does not need every video and does not need any video as soon as it's uploaded. Have people watch them and say "yes, this video does not encourage children to commit suicide" gently caress your censorship concerns, I don't care about your free speech. Alternatively, parents could you know, parent. E: to be clear I think hiring a couple hundred content reviewers and tightening up some of the flats for review is a good idea. It’s not YouTube’s job to protect kids thigh. It’s their loving parents job
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1100007647594582018 Loathe as I am to even give the appearance of defending the administration here, Putin is quite clearly full of poo poo. It's an empty threat they can't back up. But we should still probably call them out on it.
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I strongly suspect that 80% of the media consumed on YouTube is from the same 20% of content, perhaps even more extreme than that.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Mcmagic has in the past said that Republicans who lose their kids to gun violence deserved it so this is par for the course really. It is really funny though
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Feb 25, 2019 17:53
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Mahoning posted:I never said to use the same technology. I was pointing out their priorities. The copyright filter has existed on YouTube since almost the beginning. It was probably literally their first priority: PROTECT CORPORATIONS! Not only has no progress been made to eliminate hate speech and the like, its getting actively worse all the time and all they can say in response is "hey, we remove tons of content all the time!" They literally could not care less until or unless it starts affecting their bottom line. youre getting really mad that priority 1 was legal regulation compliance
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Alternatively, parents could you know, parent. 
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luxury handset posted:this doesn't have anything to do with me telling you that you can't use the same system to detect copyright content to detect inappropriate content. because you can't I literally never said that.
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rkajdi posted:So rape's now cool if they're a republican? gently caress off with this poo poo, it's the worst hot take I've seen here in forever, and we just had someone who wants the ability to harass congresspeople in their homes. I do not joke, ruining their meals is perfectly acceptable for me. You don't deserve a peaceful dinner, Mitch! E- Why would a steakhouse serve a full plate of chopped iceberg lettuce anyway? KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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No public response from Trump on this is a really good thing actually. I'd prefer it if the response to this didn't lead to worldwide nuclear annihilation, thank you very much.
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Mahoning posted:I literally never said that. i know, i said that, but now i think you're posting in defense of posting i get that you want to take a whack at corporate sociopathy but by now a dozen people have made the same point i have about why your're off base here
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exploded mummy posted:youre getting really mad that priority 1 was legal regulation compliance You're pretty non-chalant about the fact that they allow videos in the YouTube Kids app telling kids how to slit their wrist.
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Mahoning posted:I literally never said that. Mahoning posted:Just a reminder that YouTube has filters that automatically detect copyrighted material to protect major corporations but doesn't have anything of the sort for hate speech, violent speech, conspiracy theories, or now videos promoting self harm specifically to kids. I'm sorry that you dont know how antecedents work OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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Majorian posted:No public response from Trump on this is a really good thing actually. yeah on further reflection, he shouldn't be allowed to do grown-up work. Best he keep his mouth shut.
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rkajdi posted:So rape's now cool if they're a republican? gently caress off with this poo poo, it's the worst hot take I've seen here in forever, and we just had someone who wants the ability to harass congresspeople in their homes. Please show me where I said "rape is cool"
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Feb 25, 2019 17:57
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Alternatively, parents could you know, parent. Not disagreeing that parents should be involved in what their kids are watching, but it should not be controversial to say "if a company designs something for kids they should be responsible for ensuring it is not actively harmful to kids". I'm sorry that american corporatism has left you unable to expect anything from companies and to just shriek "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!" instead.
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our grandchildren will not forgive us. https://twitter.com/nattyover/status/1100063361021169665
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Alternatively, parents could you know, parent. Just get that POS Kindle Fire Kids tablet. No YouTube app and the kid learns to work around low-end Android jank. That's a skill.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Shut down Google until we can figure out what’s going on This is majorly hosed up and as a survivor of a family member's suicide I'm triggered as gently caress. Jesus loving Christ, Google, get your goddamn poo poo together.
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https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2018-12-11/two-brains-are-better-one-ai-and-humans-work-fight-hate Also https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1100078347445587975 moostaffa fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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Feb 25, 2019 17:59
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ReidRansom posted:Loathe as I am to even give the appearance of defending the administration here, Putin is quite clearly full of poo poo. It's an empty threat they can't back up. But we should still probably call them out on it. Putin is also not stupid: Hypersonic missiles or not, they'd face a full nuclear exchange. MAD still works, and this is just chest beating for Putin's electorate.
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Figuring out if a video infringes copyright is just a matter of seeing if it's audio and video content is sufficiently close to that of a second video (or any video from a large set). This is easy because it doesn't have to figure out what it's actually a video of. Detecting hate speech requires figuring that out and that's already hard enough to do for pure text, for video only a human can do with any reasonable level of accuracy. This discussion has been about the challenges of moderating Youtube at its current scale and growth and maybe the solution is going to turn out to be curbing both of those. If 1 hour of video per second is completely unmanageable and full of society-destroying garbage, stop accepting 1 hour of video per second. Arrgytehpirate posted:Alternatively, parents could you know, parent. Yeah, a lot of parents see the internet as equivalent to television when they should really be seeing it as equivalent to going out into public spaces. You shouldn't let kids do it unsupervised until you've inculcated a certain level of common sense and self-preservation rules into them.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:
"couple of hundred" kinda implies you don't really get how big youtube is. 200 people watching video nonstop for 8 hours a day could watch 1600 hours of video. Cool, but like, 2+ MILLION hours of video are uploaded per day. Even if you hired a million workers you aren't going to get meaningful human review on youtube uploads.
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RZA Encryption posted:Not disagreeing that parents should be involved in what their kids are watching, but it should not be controversial to say "if a company designs something for kids they should be responsible for ensuring it is not actively harmful to kids". We're basically Ferengi at this point, but actually worse because of the tons of extra bad things we have that they never did. 
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I also expect less from YouTube based on their past history of being dog poo poo at content moderation unless it’s for corporate overlords. I mean, their answer to pedos marking time stamps of kids in sexually suggestive poses was to disable comments on any video with kids in it. Including a really cool homestead guy I watch. And they only did that after a bunch of advertisers pulled ads because someone did a video about it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:our grandchildren will not forgive us. Buddy at this rate our grandchildren will be charred husks
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Groovelord Neato posted:our grandchildren will not forgive us. If the world warms this much, we will not deserve to be forgiven.
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Koalas March posted:THE MOTION FAILED. Better minority representation will be written into the new bylaws by the bylaw committee, which I have just been appointed to. This is why its so important to show up to these dumb little clique-filled boring-rear end things. Good on you KM. You made a difference.
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Groovelord Neato posted:our grandchildren will not forgive us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP3F1GH-a80
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Groovelord Neato posted:our grandchildren will not forgive us. I really used to want kids, but I don't want to think about what they'd go through if I had them.
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KickerOfMice posted:I do not joke, ruining their meals is perfectly acceptable for me. You don't deserve a peaceful dinner, Mitch! I'm not joking. Treating politicians and other professionals like pro-life cretins treat abortion clinic workers isn't acceptable. There's zero chance this doesn't end in more political assassinations, which I'd like to hope we see as a bad thing.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:How big do you think something like youtube or twitter is? How many people are you thinking you'd need to hire just to have someone even see each and every tweet or video? Let alone comprehend the content and make some sort of fair censorship decision. Especially across countries and cultures. This is begging the question that "allowing an unending torrent of poo poo to be uploaded is a thing that must continue". Fine, allow the normal youtube to be an absolute cesspool, but "gently caress it someone will flag it" is NOT ACCEPTABLE for a kid's walled garden.
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Meanwhile an article came out today about the mental health toll that reviewing social media for content violations inflicts on moderators https://twitter.com/verge/status/1100017658102251520
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We really need to start getting it across that the global temperature going up by degree isn't just hotter days. An 8 degree difference is a moderate annoyance, the extinction of fruits and grass fed animals hits harder.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1100007647594582018 The administration not giving this threat the time of day is actually a good thing, even it’s because Trump is Putin’s patsy. Russia has no ability for military strength projection outside of its immediate border (we actually saw this when a armored infantry column of Russian “mercenaries” during the Wagner Group incident in Syria decided to try and scare a compound holding US generals by shelling the hill it was on and nearly the entire force was destroyed in response). Putin is doing this to wave his dick to his base of supporters in Russia and because he knows Trump will shrink away if anyone demands a response EDIT: Wrong conflict, corrected Dr. VooDoo fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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rkajdi posted:I'm not joking. Treating politicians and other professionals like pro-life cretins treat abortion clinic workers isn't acceptable. There's zero chance this doesn't end in more political assassinations, which I'd like to hope we see as a bad thing. I believe you might have misread me, it was just fun to think of making GBS threads on McConnnell's salad. Mostly in response to the last part of what you said- I wouldn't say zero chance, but it's an extremely dangerous ground. We're dealing with religious zealots. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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