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DebonaireD posted:Hey madfury, they're a game developer. It's a couple of hundred creative types working on something and if you don't like it, that's fine, but calling them morally bankrupt is so loving childish. This isn't monsanto, they aren't poisoning the earth or decimating third world villages. "morally bankrupt" oh my god, stop watching 2 hour long youtube hate videos and absorb some vitamin d. hei, hei. I disagree. Bethesda dev house is raping known IP for sales. Nothing wrong with trying something different besides SP RPG games. Nothing wrong with doing a project and failing. However the way Bethesda has handled this project from start "it just works" to something as stupid as not shipping proper bags (as advertised) with special editions screams morally bankrupt. Moral bankruptcy is not exclusively reserved for legal entities on your little list. And thanks for assuming I watch some youtube videos, FYI I am unsure what 2 hour video you refer to and my vitam D levels are just fine. Thanks for trying personal insults though, it matters to me greatly what random lifeforms on internet think of me.
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If theres anything I love more than video games is getting 10 versions of the same video game trickled over 6 years.
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In order to play the Outer Worlds you have to sign a user agreement where you, the player, don't hate Todd Howard and he still won't let Obsidian make another Fallout until they pry the franchise from his cold, humorlessly placed nuked skeleton.
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madfury posted:hei, hei. I disagree. Bethesda dev house is raping known IP for sales. Nothing wrong with trying something different besides SP RPG games. Nothing wrong with doing a project and failing. However the way Bethesda has handled this project from start "it just works" to something as stupid as not shipping proper bags (as advertised) with special editions screams morally bankrupt. Moral bankruptcy is not exclusively reserved for legal entities on your little list. And thanks for assuming I watch some youtube videos, FYI I am unsure what 2 hour video you refer to and my vitam D levels are just fine. Thanks for trying personal insults though, it matters to me greatly what random lifeforms on internet think of me. How can someone who has been posting for 14 years be this bad at it?
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Feb 26, 2019 19:38
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BMan posted:Oh my god you loving shills, stop defending preordering
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Feb 26, 2019 19:39
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Donovan Trip posted:They pre-ordered a placeholder graphic that might be related to a brand so hard they made it a top seller lol But it's a collector's edition 
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Feb 26, 2019 19:45
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RoadCrewWorker posted:No please do, the Fallout players were just coming to their senses and we need some more suckers arguing absurdly ridiculously for why them making bad purchasing decisions is actually extremely sensible "I might not have this money later, so I'd better spend it on Fallout 76 now" is something.
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Feb 26, 2019 19:51
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Sodomy Hussein posted:"I might not have this money later, so I'd better spend it on Fallout 76 now" is something. Broke: Buying a video game if you have the money for it. Woke: Missing your rent payment because you paid for a video game you'll receive later.
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Feb 26, 2019 19:54
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People can spend money how ever they want regardless how I or anyone else feels about it. As was mentioned above me, life lessons are not really required anymore for survival. So, each to their own. There are far less die hard FO76 defenders here than I assumed tbh. My mistake. Its just the ability to objectively evaluate something is such a rare gift it could be considered a superpower. Like Tei said, you can love a bad game and thats absolutely fine. However trying to convince other around that "its just a beta, they will fix it in 5 days" is something that should not be uttered on a gaming forum. My .02 cents anyway. I eagerly await placeholder graphics sales figures!
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Feb 26, 2019 19:56
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RoadCrewWorker posted:No please do, the Fallout players were just coming to their senses and we need some more suckers arguing absurdly ridiculously for why them making bad purchasing decisions is actually extremely sensible All video games are a bad purchasing decision man Imagine arguing that you're being productive by playing one over another 
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Sodomy Hussein posted:"I might not have this money later, so I'd better spend it on Fallout 76 now" is something. spend it now on fallout 76 later
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madfury posted:People can spend money how ever they want regardless how I or anyone else feels about it. As was mentioned above me, life lessons are not really required anymore for survival. So, each to their own. There are far less die hard FO76 defenders here than I assumed tbh. My mistake. Its just the ability to objectively evaluate something is such a rare gift it could be considered a superpower. Like Tei said, you can love a bad game and thats absolutely fine. However trying to convince other around that "its just a beta, they will fix it in 5 days" is something that should not be uttered on a gaming forum. My .02 cents anyway. gamers suck
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Feb 26, 2019 20:10
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Wolfsheim posted:All video games are a bad purchasing decision man
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Sodomy Hussein posted:"I might not have this money later, so I'd better spend it on Fallout 76 now" is something. wait until you get a load of "any purchasing decision that doesn't literally kill you cannot be criticized"
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Feb 26, 2019 20:23
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I dont preorder loving anything after thr last year and a half. I used to be like maybe that series i really like but nope gently caress that noise there is literally no reason to preorder ever
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I don't preorder things but also people seem really invested in the idea that if gamers could rise up and do the one weird trick of not pre-ordering that a lot more would change than realistically would change. Almost all the people that pre-ordered this would have bought it day one instead if that wasn't an option.
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Feb 26, 2019 20:56
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Games are less and less finished at release, too. I technically pre-ordered rdr2, but only digitally a few days before release so it would be downloaded (and from people's early impressions I was sure I wanted to play it) It's crazy to me people would pre-order a game months in advance like why
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Feb 26, 2019 20:56
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I used to pre-order a lot back when amazon prime would give you a discount but now they don't so whats the point
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Feb 26, 2019 21:35
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CharlestonJew posted:I used to pre-order a lot back when amazon prime would give you a discount but now they don't so whats the point To be the first kid on the block with your shiny new copy of Placeholder!
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Feb 26, 2019 21:44
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Fallout General: Placeholder Collector's Edition Preorder Bonus Discussion
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DebonaireD posted:Lockback at least explore the map, it is very pretty and the soundtrack is good. Once you've seen all the regions I'd say you've gotten 60% of the juice, go from there. Inon Zur's soundtrack is 100% wasted on this game.
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Feb 26, 2019 22:01
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mormonpartyboat posted:in bethesda's defense, at least they never went to 8chan to do an ama Not yet anyway. If we can't get people to preorder placeholder, we gotta find whales where we can! How, how do you know that specific website even exists, agree to have an ama there with your company attached to it, then apparently don't recognize that website's reputation until the pedophilia defenders come in? This isn't just any chan board or even Reddit, you go to the truck-stop shithole that 4chan sends the poo poo too racist and creepy for them to.
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Ehh, I got my $60 worth out of the game. The quests are basically excuses to go someplace and explore it, but like 80% of the fun I have in FO4 is exploring the map and reading the random terminal entries and notes scattered about. The fact that FO76 has more terminals and notes and no dudes giving you backstory is a lovely stylistic choice, but it works well enough for what the game is. It also helps that I enjoy the eurojank genre of games, and bethesda-jank is almost slav-like in it's hilarity, and aside from that stupid damage bug, most were more hilarious than actually frustrating. Overall Grade: C+, they made an effort, but it was lacking in vision, follow through and competence beyond the basics. Here's hoping we get another No Man's Sky, wherein sometime in the nebulous future the game suddenly goes from kinda lovely to pretty great in one big content update.
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I personally blame everyone who pre-orders anything for not just enabling companies like Bethesda, but also for my dog dying and for global warming. Pre-orders literally killed my family and the earth, I hope you're all happy.
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I preordered gtav for the 360 like 8 months in advance....it still turned up a day late ffs.Never again,hated that game.
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I don't think I've ever preordered a game but I have backed several Kickstarters
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chaosapiant posted:The idea is that it isn't up to you or me how someone manager their money. Maybe they're completely poo poo at managing it and know it so they work around it. Maybe unplanned poo poo comes up and they don't have it. Maybe they're a contract worker now and the future is unknown. My point is arguing how other people spend their money on the internet is dumb. I tend to agree and rarely, if ever, pre-order anything any more unless I want a collector's edition of something. Beyond that, since i'm not buying physical copies, pre-ordering seems silly to me. But I'm not going to shame someone else because they do or don't do things I would do. I mean the logical conclusion of this argument ends all argument, so why make it? "Fallout 76 is a bad game, people shouldn't play it" "But what if someone enjoys it, you shouldn't pass judgement on how people spend their time" "Fallout 76 is a bad game but you can play it or not" "Well it's pointless to pass judgements on things that people may enjoy" "Fallout 76 is a game that you can purchase" When someone is laying out points why doing something is wrong, you can't just retreat to "criticizing other's decisions is stupid"
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With all that being said, I did pre order smash Bros ultimate because I'm
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I pre-ordered Pillars Of Eternity and backed Pillars Of Eternity 2, and I am a shameful enough Obsidianpig that I'll probably get Outer Worlds right away as well. But I won't be proud of it!
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Zelder posted:I mean the logical conclusion of this argument ends all argument, so why make it? Look from my point of view the jedi are evil
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Feb 26, 2019 23:26
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Wolfsheim posted:Look from my point of view the jedi are evil friend you are crazy!
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Feb 26, 2019 23:28
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BMan posted:friend you are crazy! Is the baby on the hoof?
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Wolfsheim posted:Ehhhh maybe this applies to multiplayer games but I've never been 'hosed over' by preordering a single player game. Like by the time it comes out you have a rough idea of what you're getting in terms of genre/style and there will be reviews and impressions all over the place. I guess some games have had disappointed or unexpected turns, like I bought Fallout 4 thinking it would be Fallout 3 but with better graphics and a minecraft thing bolted on, and it was mostly that even if a few of the finer points were tweaked. I didn't preorder Fallout 76 because it looked like poo poo and took out most of the stuff I like about Bethesda games and hey, it turned out exactly the way it looked. Pathetic.
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Wolfsheim posted:Even ignoring the buggy mess of it a game that was purely about going around random-gen planets farming resources sounded like it would be fun for maybe a few hours tops and then the weeks leading to release were nothing but red flags on top of red flags, that one's on you buddy! Lol found Sean Murray’s SA account.
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xxEightxx posted:Lol found Sean Murray’s SA account. No man's sky devs have spent the last 2 years validating what they made. If you like discovery, inventory management and RNG No Man's Sky scratches all the itches. Fallout 76 could dream of such a turn around.
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Rand Paul posted:Pathetic. Preloading games to trigger the libs
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I'm stuck in mothership zeta because a switch is turning off a forcefield but not the invisible wall behind it. gently caress you, game.
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Just no-clip (tcl) that poo poo, unless you're playing on console, then you're simply hosed. The necessity of using the command console to fix quests and get yourself unstuck from the terrain on a routine basis is a really, really good reason not to buy a multiplayer bethesda game
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Donovan Trip posted:No man's sky devs have spent the last 2 years validating what they made. If you like discovery, inventory management and RNG No Man's Sky scratches all the itches. Fallout 76 could dream of such a turn around. I've played it more recently and it's still a tedious grindfest nightmare where you have to gather fuel from big piles of fuel and it's the same process every single time you travel to another identical world, gently caress that game, it is awful and people who think it is good have stockholme syndrome
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