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tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
Venezuela still need china to buy their low quality oil. But Xi is not getting his investment back either way.

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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016


As Chairman Mao once said, "Bitch better have my money."

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Are we reading the same tweet

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Because whoever is transcribed after the letter A: well, they are 100% correct, and it does not denote anything about debt, oil, or whatever else you're on about

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Matt SchiavenzaVerified account
@MattSchiavenza

Assistant Director, Content @asiasociety. China and Asia-focused journalist with bylines at @theatlantic and elsewhere. Baseball fan.

Extremely legit coming from a think-tank headed by ... [checks notes] ... Kevin Rudd, the Acting US Trade Representative for the TPP, and a member of Obama's NSC???

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

gradenko_2000 posted:

Extremely legit coming from a think-tank headed by ... [checks notes] ... Kevin Rudd, the Acting US Trade Representative for the TPP, and a member of Obama's NSC???

the funny thing is because he says mildly positive things about china he's considered corrupted by the china-watcher think tank dipshits

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


gradenko_2000 posted:

Kevin Rudd, the Acting US Trade Representative for the TPP, and a member of Obama's NSC???

lmao

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

tino posted:

Venezuela still need china to buy their low quality oil. But Xi is not getting his investment back either way.

I wouldn't be too sure about that lol

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
I wondered what Kevin Rudd is up to so I wiki'd him

wiki posted:

In 2016, Rudd asked the Government of Australia(then a government of the Liberal/National Coalition) to nominate him for Secretary-General of the United Nations. At its meeting on 28 July, the Cabinet was divided on his suitability for the role and, on that basis, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull decided to decline the request; .....


In 2017, Rudd began studying for a doctorate on Xi Jinping at Jesus College, Oxford.[280]

LOL I guess that's a thing? Guy is going to write more about Xi Jinping. He is 62 years old he is not retiring.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
In 2017, Rudd began studying for a doctorate on Xi Jinping at Jesus College, Oxford.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
This is the Prime Minister of Australia who was iirc quite popular but got knifed halfway through his first term by party insiders for an ineffectual puppet, then about a week before the election at the end of HER term he replaced her again. (and lost the election)

We haven't had a Prime Minister complete a full term since 2007.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
haha kevin rudd is kowtowing to xi

Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD
So what does everyone think of China locking up Muslims in camps or is the answer:

"Actually the US prison system...."

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Scionix posted:

So what does everyone think of China locking up Muslims in camps or is the answer:

"Actually the US prison system...."

It's pretty bad, yeah. They shouldn't be doing that.

Also western reporting on China is really bad so the situation is probably being portrayed incorrectly, which is not to say it's not happening.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
China's treatment of minorities is actually kinda weird. Like imagine if in the US each tribe was legally guaranteed to have a senate seat. But also they have to show up for promotional photos in full tribal regalia all the time to show how progressive the white people, who believe they 'allowed them to be there,' are.

Actually that would be substantially loving better than what the US does but

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
in many ways the National People's Congress is more democratic than the US congress, for instance in US two parties who are the same control everything and rig the political system against third party challengers like joe stein as well as "rebellious" member like Bernie sanders.

in China there are almost a dozen different parties as well as many independents in congress including democratic parties representing a wide diversity of political views. Infact most don't know that non-CCP controls more than 800 seats in congress. it's one thing china does do better than the us political system

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

I think you make some decent posts sometimes Modest Mao but that is a really, really, godawful reply to someone baiting tankies. When you're talking about something like putting people in camps it's a real bad look to try to take the "well lets consider the middle road option" path and it's hard to say why without making a nazi comparison. It looks like you're trying to soften the blow on something incredibly disgusting. And then the "by the way did you know how America etc etc etc" is just exactly what he was setting you up to do.

Western reporting on China does suck but lol "putting people in camps is bad" doesn't need a both sides approach. Or if you wanna irony post, go big or go home then it's funnier.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Imperialists itt: throwing huge numbers of an ethnic minority into factory prisons is bad

wise xi-jinping thought understanders: 多的女狱警!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i'm waiting for homex to weigh in on the game getting banned in china because of the Xi/winnie the pooh easter egg

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
they're reeducation facilities

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Well if you get imprisoned, social services will pick your kids up from school and drop them off home - unsupervised!

Oh and it’s not just Uighurs or Kazakhs, Han government workers who try to quit their jobs or complain online also get sent to the camps

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
Do they make iPhone inside the camp? Or learn Marxist Leninist Xiist thoughts?

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Its possible to be a Marxist and support nations governed by Marxist Parties without necessarily supporting everything they do. It's not like every supporter of the liberal bourgeois world order feels the need to cover for the US prison system or the Japanese internment camps or whatever. Uighur camps are bad and need to stop.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

tino posted:

Do they make iPhone inside the camp? Or learn Marxist Leninist Xiist thoughts?

so far they are making articles of clothing not Iphones: a certain woman of bourgois backgrounds is reported to have a quota of 3 clothes a day (a very reasonable and easily fufillable quota), and yes Marxist-Leninist-Xiist thoughts are taught within the educational concentration camps

it's actually kinda a shame that in the US we don't have similar programs for young people of the well-off, if we make bourgeois people with well paid jobs experience the livelihood of working class people in factories maybe they'll less likely to be exploiting them!

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Yeah it's ethnic cleansing, most info about it comes from western reporting which I think does a disservice by sometimes being hyperbolic. The people I know from Xinjiang don't really talk about it and just say "I don't know much about that" essentially, and I've never been to xinjiang myself. I shouldn't have opened my mouth cause like 90% of people talking about it I don't know poo poo.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
My friend is Han from Xinjiang and some of her relatives work in public service. School teachers don’t have time off anymore because they have to be a “big brother or big sister” for Uighur kids and take them home for Chinese New Year - promoting unity and all that.

the country side is still quite nice and i will go there this summer or next summer

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Maybe she was sent to a re-education camp because she was working in advertising, which isn’t a very marxist-leninist line of work?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STYVGY-1wCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDTwO0TlwOU

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

quote:

"I've bought copies of this book for my colleagues as well. I want them to understand socialism with Chinese characteristics." —Mark Zuckerberg, Founder & CEO, Facebook

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Holy bootstraps, Winnie!

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

frankenfreak posted:

Holy bootstraps, Winnie!

It's not bootstraps, it's self-lead development of the individual's Productive Forces.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Pretty much every "independence movement" backed by the United States is one part terrorism, two parts personal grift:



I also liked this accusation in the comments that she is a CCP false flag:

quote:

Many people believe that Kadeer is the product of Communist China. What she does is more beneficial to Communist China than to her Uyghur people. Because, she promotes autonomy instead of independence for the Uyghur people like the Chinese does. She terrorize her own people if they disagree with her or choose different path from her by calling them as Chinese spies like she called the announcers of the East Turkistan government in exile as the Chinese agents. In short, Kadeer's labeling the previously established East Turkistan Government in exile as the work of China is very similar to that of China's labeling the people of East Turkistan who advocates independence from China as terrorists in order to justify its persecution in East Turkistan.

Therefore, Rabiya Kadeers is not the true leader of the people of East Turkistan. She is the artificial leader made by Communist China in order to destroy the true leaders who are fighting for the real cause-- independence of the people of East Turkistan including the Uyghurs. What she has been saying about the treatment of the Uyghurs under the Chinese rule--the Chinese human rights violation against Uyghurs is true. But, she is lying about what the Uyghur people really want in order to not to upset her boss. A real freedom fighter or a real leader should not lie under any condition. She is fooling herself by trying to fool the international community about the aspiration of the Uyghurs for her own desire---Noble Peace Prize maybe…Actually, she can still be rewarded by the Noble or even higher prize without lying. We have been calling her to follow the right path but she is not listening…


Also lol @ visiting Japan's war criminal shrine:

CAPS LOCK BROKEN has issued a correction as of 07:23 on Mar 3, 2019

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
full disclosure: i bought the book

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1102110650631884802

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016


Socialism with Chinese Characteristics #ecommerce

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Socialism with Chinese Characteristics #ecommerce
well how else am i gonna order xi's book!?

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
look, if you don't like trains draped with red banners, there's something wrong with you

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