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Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.
The problem is we're never going to hear all the evidence the jury heard, so most people can only go off the public reporting, which amounts to "it happened in the span of five minutes with other people not far away". Pell has been a prominent public figure for decades, and people feel like they "know" him because of it, while the victim is remaining anonymous.

I absolutely think he did it (and covered up a bunch of poo poo that he'll never be charged with) but I wouldn't be surprised if a higher percentage of people harboured doubt than you'd expect, largely because of the combination of the above.

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Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
I think the Liberal Party should absolutely double down on this platform of defending the worlds most senior pedophile catholic priest

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Don't forget the long dead potential boat paedophile the libs made a huge deal of last week before flipping to total and absolute paedophile support

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Senor Tron posted:

What's the logic of withdrawing the application? If they know it's not going to work I guess it potentially looks better for the appeal if he is already imprisoned rather than papers being full of photos of him out and about?

It could of course just be for his safety. But Richter's arguments at the bail hearing might come back to bite him in an appeals session, since the angle of his argument implicitly accepts that the incidents took place. That seems quite unhelpful to Pell's case, let alone the sickening terms he used.

https://twitter.com/theheraldsun/status/1100615087705018368

Gosh its so hard to defend paedophilia these days what with all the lynching.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
https://twitter.com/michaelkoziol/status/1100632781397225472?s=21

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
What the gently caress

That's got to be out of context, not even Abbott is insane enough to run a "look we all rape a few children from time to time" line

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Given the photos in the age on the weekend, and that they’re bottlenecked through a single facility that they process plastics at, you’d be pretty brave to bet that they’ll start receiving new material before they go insolvent as they don’t have income coming in

Tasmantor
Aug 13, 2007
Horrid abomination
Is this going to actually help sink the people standing by Pell or is Australia far enough gone to just let it all slide?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Amethyst posted:

What the gently caress

That's got to be out of context, not even Abbott is insane enough to run a "look we all rape a few children from time to time" line

My reading of it was that he spoke to his friend, his friend said I didn't do it and Tony didn't launch into a judgment of him even though it would be easy to.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Amethyst posted:

What the gently caress

That's got to be out of context, not even Abbott is insane enough to run a "look we all rape a few children from time to time" line

Look, a bad Father is like a bad father

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

JBP posted:

My reading of it was that he spoke to his friend, his friend said I didn't do it and Tony didn't launch into a judgment of him even though it would be easy to.

Look hopefully I never have the experience of someone I considered a friend being convicted of sexually assaulting children, but I feel I may have a different reaction

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
If I read it out aloud in tone voice it literally says "I rape kids" tho let me point that one out

Solemn Sloth posted:

Look hopefully I never have the experience of someone I considered a friend being convicted of sexually assaulting children, but I feel I may have a different reaction

the power of catholicism is having everyone around you go ah well

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
Man I'd forgotten about that "A bad boss is like a bad father or a bad husband" line.

The mad monk.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

JBP posted:

If I read it out aloud in tone voice it literally says "I rape kids" tho let me point that one out


the power of catholicism is having everyone around you go ah well

If everyone sins, no one does

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
I'm trying to find the politicians who voted for the NT Intervention but cannot. Can goons please Google this for me.

Signed,
JPB

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Amethyst posted:

What the gently caress

That's got to be out of context, not even Abbott is insane enough to run a "look we all rape a few children from time to time" line

He did train to become a Catholic Priest before he went into politics. Maybe he got a few training sessions in.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Pakistan and India are off to war again btw

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

ewe2 posted:

It could of course just be for his safety. But Richter's arguments at the bail hearing might come back to bite him in an appeals session, since the angle of his argument implicitly accepts that the incidents took place. That seems quite unhelpful to Pell's case, let alone the sickening terms he used.

https://twitter.com/theheraldsun/status/1100615087705018368

Gosh its so hard to defend paedophilia these days what with all the lynching.

It's amazing how bat poo poo insane the right wing Twitter trolls are posting in that conversation.

Good to see the majority are like "gently caress you Hun" with some cancelling their subscriptions.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Pakistan and India are off to war again btw

I thought India only did that when Pakistan was better than them at cricket

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
https://twitter.com/AhronYoung/status/1100652323045466112?s=19

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
What does the "OM AC" after Howard's name mean

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Amethyst posted:

What does the "OM AC" after Howard's name mean

Order of Merit, Companion of the Order of Australia

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Member of the Order of Australia / Companion of the Order of Australia

edit: 3rd highest and highest honours in Australia respectively

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
Thanks

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

JBP posted:

*in extremely Charlie Day voice*


Welllllll your honour you see what we have here is just a garden variety, innocent mistake, could have been much worse forced oral penetration of a child
Rape law in this country is not governed by reason.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
After committing more than $200m to advertising in the last year, the Morrison government has moved to change regulations which would free taxpayer-funded electoral allowances to be used for radio and television ads.

Labor, which vows to challenge the change, says it will mean an additional $22m of taxpayer funds is available for political advertising.

ScoMo is such a slimey scum bag.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
He's going to try to steal this election.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
St Kevins can get in the bin.
https://twitter.com/Milliganreports/status/1100624665578369024

Both abused boys went there and as part of their scholarships had to be choir boys, which is how they got sexually abused by the pedophile George Pell.

One kept quiet for years because he didn't want to lose his scholarship and the other killed themselves a few years ago, never telling anybody about the abuse.

Turks
Nov 16, 2006

Don Dongington posted:

He's going to try to steal this election.

Where's antifa when you need them?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Capt.Whorebags posted:

Order of Merit, Companion of the Order of Australia

can you all nominate me next year ta

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar

Defending a pedo priest is a solid strategy in the lead up to a federal election. It’s what the silent majority wants to see.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009


That's bad enough, but I'm finding some journalists support Brennan's polemic like this guy who is furious over the suppression order to start with. Seems to me he wants the case thrown out because he dislikes the judge also. He's been flinging out all kinds of half-baked angles including Brennan's. I suppose we had to expect a backlash, but its pretty blatant.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Don Dongington posted:

He's going to try to steal this election.

What's the exact opposite of a heist movie.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Solemn Sloth posted:

Pakistan and India are off to war again btw

Yeah, two Indian jets shot down seems like a big deal. Has that ever happened before?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Brennan is a good guy*, this is disappointing.

*he obviously cancelled now

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Tree Bucket posted:

Yeah, two Indian jets shot down seems like a big deal. Has that ever happened before?

Over a thousand people died in a small war in 1999, including some planes being shot down There have been skirmishes and smaller conflicts since then.

It's bad though.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Dude McAwesome posted:

Defending a pedo priest is a solid strategy in the lead up to a federal election. It’s what the silent majority wants to see.
i can’t tell if this is real or not and it pisses me off because of how hosed this country is

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

The Howard and Abbott responses to Pell make me think what a poster above said: that they don't see it as a big deal.

Nobody decent refers to making a child suck your dick as a "mistake" And very few decent people, upon having one of their friends convicted of making a child suck their dick would say "none of this changes my opinion of you."

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

BrigadierSensible posted:

The Howard and Abbott responses to Pell make me think what a poster above said: that they don't see it as a big deal.

Nobody decent refers to making a child suck your dick as a "mistake" And very few decent people, upon having one of their friends convicted of making a child suck their dick would say "none of this changes my opinion of you."

It isn't saying rape is a mistake. It's "he who is without blame" poo poo.

Oh on the Howard comment that's just loving crazy.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Tony "baddies and baddies "Abbott

Tony is a dumb piece of poo poo and expecting anything less while reading this thread smdh.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

BrigadierSensible posted:

The Howard and Abbott responses to Pell make me think what a poster above said: that they don't see it as a big deal.

Nobody decent refers to making a child suck your dick as a "mistake" And very few decent people, upon having one of their friends convicted of making a child suck their dick would say "none of this changes my opinion of you."

They don't think it happened, because they think the accusers are all liars trying to bring down someone they know to be a good man. To convict Pell would mean that they were wrong about another powerful white man, and they see the attack on Pell as an attack on their identity and belief structure.

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