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Feelin very called out here.
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# ? Feb 24, 2019 22:08 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 01:50 |
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A smarter game would have an aside about how if they are lying it's probably not a great idea to antagonize them since it'd be you against an entire nation at this point (And how the gently caress are you gonna beat Ryoma?) so better to play along for now. Thankfully all poor decisions can be explained by our dull protagonist's stat set up.
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# ? Feb 24, 2019 22:11 |
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Chome's high school graduation is gonna be so awkward
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# ? Feb 24, 2019 23:15 |
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From a better FE
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# ? Feb 25, 2019 02:19 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:From a better FE You mean beorc you crazy racist
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# ? Feb 25, 2019 03:15 |
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Calaveron posted:You mean beorc you crazy racist No, "human" is the racist word for beorc.
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# ? Feb 25, 2019 18:25 |
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video Ep 05 - Mother
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# ? Feb 27, 2019 21:01 |
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Does existing in a state of permanent blush lead to circulatory problems?
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 00:26 |
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As Vicas mentioned, yeah, the first 5 chapters are identical regardless of which path you're on. If you have the special edition, or bought additional paths as dlc you get the option to skip straight to the branch point on starting a new game. And yeah, over in conquest you essentially work to undermine the evil empire from within, which would have been a very interesting concept if written competently. (it was not.)
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 00:42 |
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I knew that was gonna happen because Queen keeps barrier up with her life force? Come on, but it's amazing how many similar elements the event shares with what happens in Okami, although here it's much more rushed.
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 00:51 |
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The TV show you're talking about at the end is Designated Survivor, an extremely weird show about how Jack Bauer accidentally became president, and which fluctuates wildly between being a bad clone of The West Wing and a lazy spy thriller and has approximately zero grasp of tension and pacing. Speaking of tension and pacing, I already don't like this games pacing. We've seen barely anything of note that establishes any of these characters. Like, contrast FE9. We spend somewhere between a quarter and a third of the game with Greil before that inevitability resolves, and some plot happens, but we're also given time to build up familiarity with these characters so that when they go through stuff it means something to us, and we can appreciate how everyone feels upended by what happened because we understand what their normality looks like. After that, we're given some time to take things in and we see scenes of people grieving before any more plot happens. We unlock the base menu in tragic circumstances. Two characters leave the group and it feels like a betrayal. The character who joined up last chapter feels very awkward. But here in Fates, we have a body that's still warm and already we've had a big development with
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 03:21 |
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Yukimura is voiced by Colonel Campbell, right? I seem to recall that, but I'm not 100% sure
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 03:49 |
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RIP new Mom. Also, I had never noticed how gross the hoof-hands were before. Definitely takes a bit away from the dragon's look.
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 04:48 |
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The tiny hands kept reminding me of that deer from Adventure Time
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 05:41 |
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Fedule posted:The TV show you're talking about at the end is Designated Survivor, an extremely weird show about how Jack Bauer accidentally became president, and which fluctuates wildly between being a bad clone of The West Wing and a lazy spy thriller and has approximately zero grasp of tension and pacing. I always laughed when they were advertising that because it was literally the stolen plot of a Tom Clancy book. On the subject of the video, oh gods how did I not see those hands before?
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 05:57 |
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Fedule posted:Speaking of tension and pacing, I already don't like this games pacing. We've seen barely anything of note that establishes any of these characters. I wholeheartedly agree there, it's kind of bizarre how the part that's in all versions of the game is so short, packed, and rushed. I guess because most players are locked into a family before they even start playing, they didn't care about characterising up and making the player care much about either side before dropping into the path-exclusive content. If Conquest/Birthright was a single title with both branches in from the start, I imagine they would have spent more part here in part1/prologue town. More time in pittsburg to get to know the family there, and the same in japan-land, to make the choice something people might actually care about. But it's so bizarre how if unless you bought the game + a 20?usd DLC at launch, you didn't have a choice in the matter ingame at all. Also yeesh to the handoofs, I did not notice those either.
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 08:07 |
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At least the characters have feet this time.
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 08:13 |
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I like how Dvac is just bothered by the fact that the dragon is not hot
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 10:45 |
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And here we have the first "the protagonist is a complete retard" moment of the game, before the route split even. I mean, trusting the Blatantly Evil Overlord can be explained by him being kidnapped at an extremely young age, getting clocked by Rinkah is forgivable because it happened before he could get his bearings after the (rather forced) My Castle thing, but this whole debacle could've been postponed if not prevented just by Chome going "hey guys, this sword tried to kill me on the way here, could we maybe seal it away and get me a new one?" And then instead of just having his replacement be conveniently in the nearest broken statue, make it a royal treasure (while keeping the "nobody had previously been capable of wielding it, but of course he can because protagonist privileges" thing). Like, if this was competently written, the player would go through around 2-3 more chapters to let you get to know the Hoshido-side family (to balance the 3-4 we had for Nohr), and then The Invisible Man (or some other antagonistic figure) would break in, steal Ganglari, and THEN off Mom (possibly while everyone else is out and about, with you showing up just in time to hear her last words to provide drama- insert Takumi accusing you of killing her yourself here if necessary). Unfortunately, they were so fixated on the route split that they made the Avatar completely brain-dead just to get there faster. Yes, I have thought about ways to do this better. It's part of why this game pisses me off so much- it could have been better, and some of the ways to make it live up to its potential are just SO OBVIOUS. Also, his "dragon" form is a disgrace to all dragons, even beyond its appearance. I mean, he doesn't even have a breath weapon! If you're gonna make a water dragon, make it spit out high-pressure jets of water, or superheated steam, or SOMETHING, instead of just going around slapping things and goring them on its deer-horns. A recommendation from someone who's played before (in spoilers in case you don't want it): You might wanna focus on Chome's support with Kaze for a bit. Can't really say why even tagged, but still.
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 11:14 |
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Whamukars posted:I like how Dvac is just bothered by the fact that the dragon is not hot It's really loving funny though. Especially so with how earlier examples of dragons being just 'Yep, that's a dragon' or 'aww adorable.'
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 12:35 |
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This LP is good and listening to people react to the game's lazy, stupid, and bad writing is a delight. Also, I think dvac might have been thinking about Battlestar Galactica, where the secretary of education becomes president because everyone else is dead and she's way in over her head.
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# ? Feb 28, 2019 14:09 |
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which pokemon is that
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 03:11 |
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Really Pants posted:which pokemon is that Fa
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 04:36 |
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A much cooler magic song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-Nl2Joins&t=61s And a much cooler dragon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyDqk559szc
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 05:53 |
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Chome strikes me as the kind of person who can’t be alone near a bathtub because he will drown.
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 07:50 |
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Corrin's dragon form rules!! You all just don't have any taste.
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 10:04 |
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Chome's dragon form is the inevitable end result of generations of dragon royals with an incurable sibling thirst
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 15:00 |
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I think "Water Deer Dragon" is a solid design concept and that this game has much much uglier things throughout it. Like Ryoma. Or Camilla.
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 17:34 |
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It looks more like Xerneas than any dragon I've ever seen.
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 18:20 |
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Really Pants posted:which pokemon is that That's the murderchicken.
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:00 |
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Rogue 7 posted:That's the murderchicken. She's clearly a blaziken, given her nickname. She can even use fire movesif you glitch the game out and steal an enemy's dragonstone
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# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:13 |
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Really Pants posted:which pokemon is that Goodra that had a sack of feathers spill on it
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 00:15 |
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CptWedgie posted:And here we have the first "the protagonist is a complete retard" moment of the game, before the route split even. I mean, trusting the Blatantly Evil Overlord can be explained by him being kidnapped at an extremely young age, getting clocked by Rinkah is forgivable because it happened before he could get his bearings after the (rather forced) My Castle thing, but this whole debacle could've been postponed if not prevented just by Chome going "hey guys, this sword tried to kill me on the way here, could we maybe seal it away and get me a new one?" And then instead of just having his replacement be conveniently in the nearest broken statue, make it a royal treasure (while keeping the "nobody had previously been capable of wielding it, but of course he can because protagonist privileges" thing). THIS! This is one of my biggest problems with the game pre-route split. The fact that Ganglari attempted to pull Chome into a bottomless chasm is literally NEVER brought up. Not even when it's happening does the protagonist think "why the heck is my sword trying to kill me?!" It's never brought up at all. Even when there is a perfectly good opportunity to bring it up during some dialogue right after the split into Birthright. It's like the writers just kind of forgot it happened and pretended Hans was the only thing trying to kill anyone on that bridge.
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 07:31 |
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How did this thread escape my notice for so long. I'm here to talk about anime fire emblem
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 09:09 |
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Gaearin posted:THIS! This is one of my biggest problems with the game pre-route split. The fact that Ganglari attempted to pull Chome into a bottomless chasm is literally NEVER brought up. Not even when it's happening does the protagonist think "why the heck is my sword trying to kill me?!" It's never brought up at all. Even when there is a perfectly good opportunity to bring it up during some dialogue right after the split into Birthright. It's like the writers just kind of forgot it happened and pretended Hans was the only thing trying to kill anyone on that bridge. What's weird is that in Okami when the similar (though much less rushed) events take place, that was also the one time I felt Ammy acted like a dummy at one point, and it also had to do with a cursed item.
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 09:13 |
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So if Garon’s plan was to get Chome near the queen with the evil sword, what was his plan if Chome’s maid didn’t end up being a dragon and Chome and the sword were just lost in the bottomless pit instead?
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 12:34 |
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Speaking of nonsensical plot beats, why does everyone want to bang Chome? He has more personality and wits as a mindless deer dragon.
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 12:38 |
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InspectorCarbonara posted:So if Garon’s plan was to get Chome near the queen with the evil sword, what was his plan if Chome’s maid didn’t end up being a dragon and Chome and the sword were just lost in the bottomless pit instead? I like to think that Garon specifically planned for the queen-icide, but in less than a day the blade got so utterly tired of Chome that it just tried to off him early when it had the chance. (Honestly, that entire sequence would have been better if Hans had just chopped off the ropes to the extremely rickety bridge instead.)
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 13:03 |
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Mega64 posted:Speaking of nonsensical plot beats, why does everyone want to bang Chome? He has more personality and wits as a mindless deer dragon. Because being able to self-insert is apparently a big selling point for a lot of people, and what's the use of imagining yourself as the main character if they aren't the most important person on the planet who everybody wants to be best friends and/or lovers with. Honestly, you could argue that Robin from Awakening, that game's equivalent to
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 13:35 |
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SubNat posted:(Honestly, that entire sequence would have been better if Hans had just chopped off the ropes to the extremely rickety bridge instead.) And that's the worst part about Fates, really. Is that a lot of the extreme story flaws have such obvious and easy fixes. It can be argued for that particular case that if that happened then we wouldn't get the ""foreshadowing"" about Chome's dragon form from when he attacked Hans back. But honestly? Anything that makes this game less stupid would be an improvement.
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