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endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

That's poop. Your kid has pooped.

"Communism is poo poo", says Guardian columnist Jeremoud Corbynejad.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

forkboy84 posted:


Labour's hosed either way. Parliamentary route to socialism has been a bust, better putting energies to alternative methods.

What's made you give up on them? The anti-semitism stuff? The TiG stuff? Both?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

What's a fubpee? I feel like this thread needs its own wiki, only it would be one page with 'everything is hosed' in 82 point comic sans.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Forkboy just wants to participate in a riot.

I wouldn't mind a riot.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

What's a fubpee? I feel like this thread needs its own wiki, only it would be one page with 'everything is hosed' in 82 point comic sans.

Twitter thing - #FBPE (hence fubpee)
Follow Back Pro-Europe

Bunch of highly unpleasant extremist remainers.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Bobby Deluxe posted:

What's a fubpee? I feel like this thread needs its own wiki, only it would be one page with 'everything is hosed' in 82 point comic sans.

FBPE: It's a twitter hashtag and stands for 'Fully Blairite, Posting Excrement'

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Remainers that blame Labour and Corbyn for brexit and never the Tories, Cameron and May. It's very mysterious.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Are they extremist though? I though one of the problems people had with them was that they were a bit milquetoast?

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
They're extreme in their desire to blame brexit entirely on Corbyn.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
All their tweets are extremely bad.

Illuyankas
Oct 22, 2010

Extremist, not competent

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

I mean they did put him in a bright pink sweater.
Nope, not obvious enough for me.



Looks like the gayonet is spunking fire too :black101:

Tesseraction posted:

make it our new gang tag to replace the election celebration jammy bastards imo

in order to make it fit the gang tag size limit just have it scroll down with a witty slogan appearing at the bottom

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Maugrim posted:

There's a panic in parenting groups at the moment that "hackers" are inserting Momo into otherwise innocuous kids videos - even on supposedly safe KidTube - to draw kids in, harvest their data and send them "graphic violent images" and encourage them to kill themselves. I don't know anything about Momo beyond that, sounds a bit like Slenderman to me I guess.

Gonna be fun when my kids are old enough to use the Internet by themselves

Worth noting there’s not actually any confirmed cases of this happening - just parents reporting their kids claiming it has when asked. And we all know how reliable 5 year olds are.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!



It’s beautiful 😍

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

:lol:

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

UK politics is just so embarrassing currently I think this sums it perfectly.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Guavanaut posted:

Nope, not obvious enough for me.



Looks like the gayonet is spunking fire too :black101:



I'm confused what does a Greggs sausage roll have to do with Greece's disastrous attempts to do what we';re disastrously attempting to do right now?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

There's a huge difference between not creating intelligent life and killing existent intelligent life though. It's more like Mother Ann Lee than Judge Death, who I'd consider to be morally pretty much opposite.

Until we discover immortality though the desired goal is the same - a universe without intelligent life. Mother Ann Lee is just Judge Death with more patience.

It's also not really a very achievable goal, because even if we all euthanized ourselves for the good of the cosmos the universe would probably just evolve some new intelligence-having pricks. Our existence is just the result of time plus hydrogen after all.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

My God, it's full of stars mycoprotein

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Red Oktober posted:

Worth noting there’s not actually any confirmed cases of this happening - just parents reporting their kids claiming it has when asked. And we all know how reliable 5 year olds are.
There are those loving bot/Chinese prison slave animator generated 'cartoons' 'for' 'kids', which wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that they had the same effect on growing minds as the lovely bright yellow paint in 50s toys did.

So yeah, I wouldn't let kids near YouTube unsupervised.

Apparently "the internet is garbage full of terrible people and terrible content and definitely not a substitute for parenting" is too uncontroversial for debate though, so they have to make poo poo up.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
It should say "greggsit" tbh.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Pilchenstein posted:

It should say "greggsit" tbh.

Reggretfully I have to aggree.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Red Oktober posted:

Worth noting there’s not actually any confirmed cases of this happening - just parents reporting their kids claiming it has when asked. And we all know how reliable 5 year olds are.

There's much weirder poo poo that kids are being exposed to on the webs

https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Regarde Aduck posted:

Remainers that blame Labour and Corbyn for brexit and never the Tories, Cameron and May. It's very mysterious.

It's possible to blame the tories but also think Labour under Corbyn have been poo poo opposition for the last 2 years.

Overminty
Mar 16, 2010

You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..


Double gangtags are fine right?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Mega Comrade posted:

It's possible to blame the tories but also think Labour under Corbyn have been poo poo opposition for the last 2 years.

i actually agree with this, but it involves an attitude towards a victorious-against-the-odds referendum which i genuinely don't think is very common or thought through

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Pilchenstein posted:

It should say "greggsit" tbh.

True. But a great tag!

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

What's a fubpee? I feel like this thread needs its own wiki, only it would be one page with 'everything is hosed' in 82 point comic sans.

Collective term for twitter people who obsessively tweet about Brexit, as though it was the worlds singular largest problem, and blame Corbyn, as if he's the sole reason Brexit is happening.

It started off as a twitter hashtag; #FBPE - Follow Back; Pro Europe - presumably as a sign of solidarity

Whatever its original use, it's now the shorthand for people - generally centrists - who treat Brexit as the biggest single current catastrophe, ignoring stuff like climate change, austerity, and being furious that Corbyn/Labour isn't spending 24/7 obsessively focussing on Brexit.

It'll be poo poo like, Corbyn posting about what a nice time he had with some hospice children, or holding the Tories to account on the massive wage gap between the richest and poorest, with inevitable comments being "DEAD KIDS ARE BAD BUT WHY AREN'T YOU STOPPING BREXIT", or "Austerity is bad, you know what's worse; Brexit", endlessly cawing that he support a People's Vote/ Second Referendum, at the literal expense of everything else that's happening.

Their narrative is that he is either a secret Leaver, or Brexit happend (and continues to happen) be HE, himself, didn't campaign enough to personally stop it. The Tory blame for this, of course, is never factored into things.

These are people who treat Anna Soubry - a woman who has literally voted for all but two Tory policies, and that includes Brexit policies - as a rebel, just because she says that Brexit is bad and should be stopped - and they then ignore the fact that after she says this, she would go and vote in favour of the thing she just said was bad, and never hold her to account.

Trashfuture had a great analogy - these are people who think if they complain to the Brexit manager enough, Brexit will be cancelled and they'll get their refund.

And even when Labour supports a "people's vote" - despite their Brexit strategy being known for months among people who have followed their conference info - the narrative is that it's too late, and Corbyn is to blame for it.

[e]:


*Italian chef kissing fingers*

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Feb 28, 2019

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Red Oktober posted:

Worth noting there’s not actually any confirmed cases of this happening - just parents reporting their kids claiming it has when asked. And we all know how reliable 5 year olds are.

There is one video I've seen that looked like Splatoon but had a dude come in who said 'remember kids, downwards for attention, sideways for results' while he mimed slashing his wrists. It's gone from YouTube now but it definitely existed so others might as well.

e: Found a link

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


hell uyeah

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Mega Comrade posted:

It's possible to blame the tories but also think Labour under Corbyn have been poo poo opposition for the last 2 years.

Yeah it's been rocky. But Corbyn's Labour has also been under constant attack from everyone but the "mirror" for the last two years. This is the same chicken and egg argument that pissflaps loved. Corbyn is always under attack making him look weak. He's under attack because he looks weak.

The most troubling aspect of all this is not the fall of Corbyn. It's that we can never have a real left wing leader without the same campaign of character assassination.

I mean Labour have been clear that they oppose austerity, want to renationalise resources vital to functioning society that are constantly loving up such as the rail companies and protect the NHS. If this isn't enough for the British public i'd say the problem doesn't lie with the government. If they truly want to live in a shithole country what can you do? Parties cannot mind control the electorate.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

Regarde Aduck posted:

Parties cannot mind control the electorate.

Yuri would like a word.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003



Beautiful.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Failed Imagineer posted:

There's much weirder poo poo that kids are being exposed to on the webs

https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2
The article starts with the author reminiscing over the innocence of the early internet, but I remember as a 16 year old finding stile project and seeing alongside what would now be considered fairly vanilla porn of camgirls, an image of a biker (still alive) who'd had his lower jaw ripped off in an accident and was looking at the camera like 'what the gently caress do i do now.' A hand caught in a bacon slicer (the real one, not the nice clean photoshop). Car crashes and burnt protesters and all sorts of examples of the visceral, everyday horror of existence.

The early internet was loving brutal and glossing over it does a huge disservice to the effect it no doubt had on the trolls it hardened, who are now of an age and lack of empathy to do real harm to the world through alt-right trolling because their humanity was sloughed off a long time ago.

This isn't anything new, it's just new technology is being used to make more money on a grander scale. I don't know that there's a solution to it, especially not the kind of blanket censorship* the centre right will no doubt propose. I think it speaks to something stupid in the dichotomy between capitalistic moral absolutism and the individual responsibility it excuses us from.

* Speaking of which, when do I need to get my porn id, or is that all on hold now?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

The early internet was loving brutal and glossing over it does a huge disservice to the effect it no doubt had on the trolls it hardened, who are now of an age and lack of empathy to do real harm to the world through alt-right trolling because their humanity was sloughed off a long time ago.

The early internet had a LOT of shock factor (there's a reason 'no ring' is a running joke) but it had nothing on today's internet for, you know, nazis.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

VideoGames posted:

I was ill last week so in between a bit of gaming I decided to look up old Sooty Shows from the 80s from when I was a kid. Still entertained the heck out of me!

I’ve been watching episodes of Knightmare on YouTube.

I am 33 years old.

Still good though.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
I find today's internet a lot more insidious with it's shocks. Early internet was all in your face about gore and offensive content, now they're slipping all this poo poo into kids youtube.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Bobby Deluxe posted:

The article starts with the author reminiscing over the innocence of the early internet, but I remember as a 16 year old finding stile project and seeing alongside what would now be considered fairly vanilla porn of camgirls, an image of a biker (still alive) who'd had his lower jaw ripped off in an accident and was looking at the camera like 'what the gently caress do i do now.' A hand caught in a bacon slicer (the real one, not the nice clean photoshop). Car crashes and burnt protesters and all sorts of examples of the visceral, everyday horror of existence.

The early internet was loving brutal and glossing over it does a huge disservice to the effect it no doubt had on the trolls it hardened, who are now of an age and lack of empathy to do real harm to the world through alt-right trolling because their humanity was sloughed off a long time ago.

This isn't anything new, it's just new technology is being used to make more money on a grander scale. I don't know that there's a solution to it, especially not the kind of blanket censorship* the centre right will no doubt propose. I think it speaks to something stupid in the dichotomy between capitalistic moral absolutism and the individual responsibility it excuses us from.

* Speaking of which, when do I need to get my porn id, or is that all on hold now?

I get your point, but also nobody was embedding any of that poo poo in videos for literal toddlers on mainstream well-regarded websites.

e/ I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical for someone who had unsupervised net access at 13 a couple of decades ago to say that 13 year olds now shouldn't have the same, because they fundamentally won't have the same experience we did.

Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Feb 28, 2019

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Oh absolutely. But I think the state of the early internet should not be glossed over, and doing so runs the risk of ignoring the root of the kind of abject morality that allows someone to place body horror into kids videos.

At the risk of offending, I kind of think the way our generation sees it as 'just' gore is pretty telling of the visuals we've had to normalise.

thespaceinvader posted:

The early internet had a LOT of shock factor (there's a reason 'no ring' is a running joke) but it had nothing on today's internet for, you know, nazis.
I'm just looking at the age of a lot of the older members of those groups, and wondering if a lot of their core attitudes and lack of humanity weren't shaped by the hellscape the early internet was. At least that kind of stuff is mostly confined to the dark web now.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Feb 28, 2019

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Rarity posted:

There is one video I've seen that looked like Splatoon but had a dude come in who said 'remember kids, downwards for attention, sideways for results' while he mimed slashing his wrists. It's gone from YouTube now but it definitely existed so others might as well.
Yeah, there's garbage on YouTube that's probably damaging to kids, and kids shouldn't be left in front of a user/algorithm generated content site like they can be with CBBC or a video.

But there's no evidence of the creepypastas driving kids to suicide thing, that's itself a creepypasta and nothing more. Any 'self harm' stuff is more likely to be the schoolyard "dare you to grab that thistle" than adult trolls.

Of course, there are atrocious people like that Cambridge 'hurtcore' abuser who use the internet, and that's the type of thing that all kids should be made aware of in a "here's who you can turn to if someone tries to intimidate you or make you do something that you don't want to online" way.

They should be debating things like that and the bad YouTube content pitched at kids, not Smile Dog killing their kids.

thespaceinvader posted:

The early internet had a LOT of shock factor (there's a reason 'no ring' is a running joke) but it had nothing on today's internet for, you know, nazis.
Early internet had a lot of nazis. Every shitball splinter party like the November 9th Society had a website to try to legitimize themselves. What it didn't have was those Nazis posting memes next to messages from your grandma.

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