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Yeah dogs vary wildly on what will deter them. None of our three Mini American Shepherds dislike lemon juice, vinegar, or bitter apple, and actually seem to really like the first two. One of them hates the taste of bananas though, so we literally rubbed a banana on a chair leg once to get her to stop biting it. It takes some trial and error. Our second dog, though, wasn't deterred from chewing by literally anything while he was teething, including foods that we knew he disliked (he'd sneeze and make a blech face, but go right back to chewing) so we were stuck just fencing off stuff we didn't want him to get to until he grew out of it.
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One thing that helps us is having a wide variety of chew toys. Bernie always seems to randomly change interest as far as chewing. One day he'll love his rawhide bone, the next he won't so much as sniff it and instead spend all day with his nylabone. Then the next day he's all about his soft toys. And so on and so on. Early on we had one rawhide bone and one soft toy and he always seemed to be finding something bad to chew on, since we added more variety he's been much better. Also, the Kong toys you can put treats in do wonders since it keeps his focus with the treat(s) inside, while also giving him something to chew on during and after working on the treat. PS. That pup is adorable. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 28, 2019 |
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Another update on my beagle: The nodules are benign, and they can just happen with age. Yay! The mass they removed was cancer, but that was the one that she said she was pretty confident she removed fully, but again that was just her opinion from the naked eye. The biopsy described the mass as not having clear margins or something so... who knows if some microscopic bits are left. But I'm choosing to consider this GOOD NEWS. Because even if the cancer comes back, he wouldn't be a candidate for surgery again, and this type of cancer doesn't really respond to chemo, so whether we like it or not we are pretty much "done". It will now just be a matter of keeping an eye out for symptoms and addressing those at face value I guess. I don't know how to feel! I am both happy and scared! Here is another (old) picture of the doof!  PS Wilson is hella cute! He looks so fuzzy and stubby.
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drat Bananas posted:Another update on my beagle: What a beautiful lady! I hope this bout with cancer was the last and she gets to live out the rest of her days happy and healthy.
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Does anyone have any idea how to go about teaching a dog to play? Our rescue dog was originally a puppy mill breeder and we're having a hard time finding any play instinct left in her. She likes cuddling and going on walks, and we've managed to teach her several tricks which she gets pretty excited for, but she has never shown any interest in toys (unless they immediately dispense food.) Part of the problem is that her teeth were not in good shape when we got her, so she's had a lot of them pulled. She still has some interest in rawhide chews, though, so it's not like she's opposed to gnawing on things for enjoyment. We've been trying to train her to interact with a squeaky toy on command (by hitting it with a paw, since she's more inclined to do that than chew on it) in the hope that it might lead her to take more interest in it in general, but she doesn't seem to be able to follow or identify it very well. If the toy is presented to her she will paw it right away, but if it's next to her it never occurs to her to look for it to paw it, even if she saw it get put there. She will just repeatedly paw whatever objects she can find in front of her instead. When/if she looks around and sees the toy she will recognize it and immediately paw it, but no matter how many times we play this game it doesn't seem like she's any faster to realize that she should look around and find it. It's kind of sad, we want to make sure that she's getting as much enrichment as we can provide but she just doesn't seem interested.
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Have you showed her how to play with it? Play tug between you and whomever and see if the dog understands that; hell even chew on it and tug on it while doing that and it might show her how to play solo.
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Some dogs also don't have a ton of toy interest. I remember one of my dogs growing up was really never interested in toys except for various rawhide stuff that's more "slow food" than toy.
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MF_James posted:Have you showed her how to play with it? Play tug between you and whomever and see if the dog understands that; hell even chew on it and tug on it while doing that and it might show her how to play solo. Yeah, we've tried. She's seen other dogs playing with similar toys (and occasionally even the same one we've been trying to train her with) but has never given the toys more than a cursory glance. wilderthanmild posted:Some dogs also don't have a ton of toy interest. I remember one of my dogs growing up was really never interested in toys except for various rawhide stuff that's more "slow food" than toy. It looks like this is probably the case. We just feel bad with her cooped up so much due to the weather since she doesn't really have anything for indoor entertainment.
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Straight White Shark posted:Yeah, we've tried. She's seen other dogs playing with similar toys (and occasionally even the same one we've been trying to train her with) but has never given the toys more than a cursory glance. Being stuck inside is a good excuse to work on training. If she’s already got basic obedience down try some advanced stuff. Rainy days are how I got my dog to fetch individual toys by name.
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Flaggy posted:I tried a homemade version of that since the core ingredient of a bitter apple spray is Apple Cider Vinegar. I did 1 cup white vinegar, 2 cups apple cider, he loved it. Loads of white pepper did the trick here, something to try
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Hello puppy thread. This question is probably addressed in the several hundred pages here but unfortunately I cant read all those words and it isnt in the op, so I will ask here. We got a new puppy. We adore her and so does our existing dog, a real motherfucker of an Aussie. But she's young, 2 months old. Obviously we are working on house breaking her and she can't hold it too long. She is crate trained and does well in it. We crate her overnight and at various intervals through the day so she gets used to it and gets a break from Hurricane Aussie. However, tomorrow is the first day since getting her where both my girlfriend and I work through the day. I am absolutely not gonma get 8+ hours out of this lil squirt without pissing or possibly making GBS threads, and while I am lucky enough to be able to come home on my lunch break, I think 4+ hours is unrealistic too. We have the type of kennel with a movable divider so it grows with the dog. Right now she gets ~half the kennel which is very comfortable. My thought is to remove the divider while we are gone for longer durations and then placing a puppy pad on the "new" half so she has a place to go. My concern is it risks normalizing her going in her cage but she already has had one small accident on her "regular" half and it was obviously and understandably uncomfortable for her and I don't want that to make the crate become a bad experience for her. Any advice?
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Guys, I think my dog is a genius: This apparently happened several times when my parents took her and the other dog (that you see a bit near the end of the gif) to the vet.
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Ytlaya posted:Guys, I think my dog is a genius: My dog did this at my in-laws house when he was 6 months old. He then continued to do it at our place. At one point, he figured out how to open our front door which used a handle and thumb lever and surprised me at the mailbox one morning. Thankfully he never got the deadbolt. Luckily we moved and or new place has round knobs. To this day he knows the doors requires one hand on the knob and one in the deadbolt to open but he just can't turn them. It's scary how smart he is but rounded knobs made the difference.
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We used to have border collies that would let themselves in and out of our house using the doors we had with lever handles. One of them figured out the round knob on our front door, but she could only successfully open it around 30% of the time. (The other 70% she just left it dripping dog saliva after several minutes of failed attempts.) It wasn't a big deal because we lived in the middle of nowhere where there was no traffic and we didn't even lock our doors. Now that I live near a busy street in the 'burbs, I'd be a little freaked out if my goofball lab figured out how to bust out of the house. 
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My Aussie/foxhound mix knows full well how to open the storm door in the front of the house. It’s just a paddle latch so not particularly difficult. He got out once but he just goes down to my car and waits by it to go somewhere  . I still lock it in the summer when we have the main doors open just in case though.
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Look Around You posted:So my wife and I got a three month old Goldendoodle about two weeks ago, and we're having some trouble with potty training. The main issue is that she'll signal "outside" by going to the door, and we'll get her leash on and take her out and she'll do everything but go. She'll eat leaves, play chew on tiny twigs, find rocks to eat, anything other than going. After a while of nothing, we'll take her back inside and wait a minute or two before taking her back out, or if she asks to go back out, we'll go out a little sooner so she doesn't mess in the house. But it seems that usually she'll wait until we get her back in and off the leash before walking down the side hallway in the house and going there. She'll still have some accidents where she won't ask, or where she'll ask too late and we won't be able to get her leash on to get her outside in time, but mostly it's a pattern of asking to go out and then waiting and going inside after doing nothing outside. This is really, really frustrating because we know she'll need to go based on time after eating or playing or whatever, but she just won't. My doofus doodle (Bernese mix) was a bit challenging back then. The solution turned out to be putting him directly into in the crate (not a punishment, he loved his crate, so keep it positive) if he didn't go when I brought him out, followed by another walk 10 minutes later. Sometimes it would take 3 or 4 tries.. At 4 months, the accidents just stopped happening, but it was a long time to get there. 
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DeadlyHalibut posted:Loads of white pepper did the trick here, something to try White pepper and water? Or did you do vinegar? Or just plain rear end white pepper?
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Flaggy posted:White pepper and water? Or did you do vinegar? Or just plain rear end white pepper? Just plain white pepper was good. Vinegar smells so bad that we stopped after the first try.
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Bernie, now at 14 weeks old, has occasionally started guarding certain things. It's not even every time for the same item. We'll give him a bone and be able to take it away just fine. Then another later time he'll snarl and even snap if we even touch it. For example last night he got scary when I reached to touch his bone in his mouth. Today I've been touching it, taking it, giving it back, etc with no problem. We're gonna talk to our trainer about it, because we know this can go from harmless to downright dangerous left unchecked, but I'm wondering what the thread's thoughts are on this. We think he picked up less from allowed toys like his bone and more from not allowed toys like trash and bottle caps we've had to snatch away from him, as he'd growled and snarled a few times while having them taken away. So far luring him with other things works when he's guarding but we're worried about when it's time sensitive like trying to eat trash or accidentally rewarding unwanted behavior.
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Teach him "trade!" and make you wanting his stuff a good thing. My dog was kind of guardy when I first got him and started doing trades for better things and now he'll bring me his stuff when I have something he wants in the hopes that I will trade him. Here's an article, the book Mine! by Jean Donaldson would probably help you as well.
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I'm fostering a puppy for the weekend. If things go well, I plan to keep her. Long story short, she's afraid of everything and I'm not sure if that's because she's young and everything's new and she'll get better in a couple weeks, or if it's because of some underlying more extreme issue. She's about 3-4 months old. She and her sister were parvo survivors. I'm in a developing country at the moment (I will be going back to NA at the end of the year and would take her), and there aren't really any good dog training resources available here. Dogs are generally just allowed to wander free, and are often only kept to be mean guard dogs. So it's not easy to socialise. That being said I think she was allowed to stay with her mother and sister when she was young and she has good bite inhibition. She got along well with the dogs at the shelter. Inside, she's fine. She does bark at her own reflection but otherwise does normal puppy things (for better or for worse). Outside, it's another story. I can barely get her to go into the garden to go pee and poo. At night, it's virtually impossible. Everything scares her--cars, other dogs, the sound of birds singing. Everything. Her fear turns into aggression if other dogs get too close. I haven't been able to get her one step off the property without her wanting to pull back home. I'm really worried this is too much for me to handle, but I also don't want to make too much of a big deal out of what could be normal. I've never had a puppy before display such extreme fear to outside, but I thought I'd ask here. Does this seem like something she'll grow out of? My gut says no. But maybe I'm wrong.
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I personally wouldn't expect her to completely grow out of that level of anxiety at that age with that history. It's possible, you've only had her a short while and she could totally blossom in a stable household, but I would prepare yourself for the possibility that she takes years of hard work and patience to progress. Are you willing to take that chance? Are you willing to look into alternative training options like online schools and books and videos and work diligently on your own? Are you able to provide a safe environment if she remains reactive to other dogs or develops reactivity towards people? Is she going to be able to handle the stress of changing countries if she's struggling this much in a familiar environment? It's ok to say no even if the puppy is super cute and you really want to help her. It's also ok to decide to do the best you can and make it work. It's just up to you.
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I decided it wasn't a good fit. I've dealt with many puppies in the past, and my gut said I wouldn't be able to make her feel truly at ease and happy. Even if I spent years training with her, I have severe doubts if she'd be happy iving in a less rural area where she'd have to see other dogs, cars, and strange sights on a daily basis on our walks. And that's going to be my life. On the other hand, this country has many regions with few cars that are more rural. I think she could find happiness somewhere a little more quiet like that. I'm sure she'll be the perfect dog to a couch potato with a yard who lives in a quiet neighbourhood. The shelter was not very understanding of my choice. They told me I was overreacting and fear is "easy to train out of a dog, you're just doing it wrong." This has been a very heartbreaking and horrible experience. All the dogs I've had in the past have been from well reputed breeders. Since this was a mutt, and from a shelter, I felt I had to trust the shelter more for input on the dog's characteristics, and that the foster was a good test to see if things would work out. I'm left feeling more so that the shelter just wanted to dump something on me ASAP and using guilt as a vice to prevent fosters from returning their animals. But I guess I'm just as wrong. I should have done more research. I definitely bit off more than I could chew and I feel terrible about it. I think I'll wait until I'm back in NA before I get another dog. I'll have more resources and more familiarity there. I wish I could have done more for these shelter dogs.
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ruta posted:
The gently caress? Um no.
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ruta posted:But I guess I'm just as wrong. I should have done more research. I definitely bit off more than I could chew and I feel terrible about it. I think I'll wait until I'm back in NA before I get another dog. I'll have more resources and more familiarity there. I wish I could have done more for these shelter dogs. Hey you didn't do anything wrong and gently caress shelters for guilt tripping people into keeping dogs that aren't a great fit. My dog was returned to the rescue twice before I got them and their response was just that he hadn't found the right person yet. You weren't the right person for that puppy but someone out there is. You gave her the gift of being able to find a better fit instead of trying to make her what you want. It's sad and it sucks and I'm sorry you had to go through that but you did what was right for you and the dog. Don't let some bitchy rescue ladies make you question that.
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Yeah the suggestion that fear is easy to train out of a rescue dog is a shockingly irresponsible thing for a shelter to suggest. I've had multiple rescues and used to foster for our local Humane Society when they ran out of kennel space, and I honestly think there was only ever one dog that I managed to retrain out of fear behaviors, and even then he would lose his poo poo around tall men in red coats and playground equipment. I'd venture to say that even with young shelter dogs, most of the time the best you can really do is adjust to a fearful dog's triggers and keep them out of situations that aren't going to go well. Reconditioning fearful dogs is immensely time consuming and a long road, and requires a lot of patience. That's not to say it isnt worth doing, my three rescue dogs that I had long-term were wonderful and working with them was such a rewarding experience, but there were also a lot of fosters that I probably could have taken and didn't, because I knew their personalities or training challenges weren't a good fit for me. There's absolutely no shame in that, and it's important to acknowledge that keeping a shelter dog that isn't a good fit for you and your home won't help the dog in the long run, and often will do more harm than good. I will say, personally I don't have it in me anymore to take rescue dogs. It's so very hard to accept that you will have to tackle any number of behavioral and health problems that you potentially can't foresee when you get the dog. My job and home just don't really make it easy for me to support a rescue dog these days, so I got puppies from reputable breeders and they're amazing and my life is wonderful. And there's no shame in that, either. If you can't find a rescue dog that's the right fit for you, that's okay.
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Yeah, no kidding: if you're not a fit for the dog, don't keep it. My shelter rescue Apollo is a sweetheart but he has really intense separation anxiety to the point where if I couldn't be home all day I wouldn't want to keep him. We've been working on it, but even if he's at home with another person, he spend the entire time freaking out and trying to get that person to bring me home. If I had a 9-5 office job I have no idea what I'd do, because he cannot handle that. So again: he's lucky he landed with me.
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ruta posted:I decided it wasn't a good fit. I've dealt with many puppies in the past, and my gut said I wouldn't be able to make her feel truly at ease and happy. Even if I spent years training with her, I have severe doubts if she'd be happy iving in a less rural area where she'd have to see other dogs, cars, and strange sights on a daily basis on our walks. And that's going to be my life. On the other hand, this country has many regions with few cars that are more rural. I think she could find happiness somewhere a little more quiet like that. I'm sure she'll be the perfect dog to a couch potato with a yard who lives in a quiet neighbourhood. This will probably get me flamed, but I have found that it's really really hard to get a shelter dog to work out unless you find a unicorn. Most of them have behavior issues that landed them there in the first place and unless you have lots and lots of free time to train and patience you are probably not going to overcome those problems. When you get a dog from a breeder you don't have those obstacles to overcome.
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Thanks a lot everyone. I suspect I'll be down about this for awhile, but your words really help. Thank you.
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daslog posted:This will probably get me flamed, but I have found that it's really really hard to get a shelter dog to work out unless you find a unicorn. Most of them have behavior issues that landed them there in the first place and unless you have lots and lots of free time to train and patience you are probably not going to overcome those problems. It's a mixed bag, and it depends a lot on the age of the dog and the philosophy of the shelter. Breeder pluses: you know the early socialization and the line. Minus: usually puppy; breeder returns are few and far between (with a good breeder), and potentially more of a gamble than shelter dogs. If you don't want to deal with a puppy (because that's a ton of work period), then you can find temperamentally sound adult shelter dogs, you just have to be discerning. If you get an outgoing dog from a shelter that does temperament testing and doesn't try to rehabilitate biters, you'll probably do fine. In some areas of the country, you'll have a really limited pool of breeds (or mixes) that show up in the shelter. If you like little scruffy terrier things, chi mixes, or bully breeds, there are all sorts of sound shelter dogs out there that you can find and skip the puppy stage. Dogs that old ladies like are also pretty easy to come by, as long as you're not put off by a middle-aged or older dog (and the corresponding vet bills).
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There are also rescues, which differ from shelters by being more selective about both the dogs they take in and the homes they adopt to. I am quite happy with my garbage shelter dogs and I definitely will not be adopting a puppy in the future.
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Engineer Lenk posted:In some areas of the country, you'll have a really limited pool of breeds (or mixes) that show up in the shelter. Talk to me about trying to find a non-pitbull to adopt in the shelters around here, when it is a veritable sea of pitbulls. And I mean pitbulls are great dogs but I live with dog racist parents and as they're helping with the cost of a dog, I gotta go with their demands. (Which were, specifically: "no small yappy dogs, no aggressive or non-housebroken dogs, no pitbulls, no mastiffs/other giant dogs.") e: I think they were hoping I'd go for a lab or a golden retriever but listen, those dogs are the epitome of silly and I don't want to live with a dog that silly.
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StrixNebulosa posted:e: I think they were hoping I'd go for a lab or a golden retriever but listen, those dogs are the epitome of silly and I don't want to live with a dog that silly. There are far, far worse things to have than a goofy dog that slobbers love on everyone.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:There are far, far worse things to have than a goofy dog that slobbers love on everyone. I mean yeah, but I had a choice and I hate slobber. I'm very happy with Apollo - his problems are the ones I want to deal with and he's otherwise an angel.
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About 6 months ago, while I was preparing to move 5 hours drive from the suburb I've lived my whole life with my wife and new kid, our elderly cat Coco got very sick and had to be put down and then two weeks later our young dog Karl started having seizures which turned out to be an inoperable brain tumor. He held on for three days after the first seizure. He was the best dog, extremely friendly and loyal, if not all that bright. She was the best cat, I don't even like cats but I loved her in a very big way. They were the best team and I miss them every single day.  The month that happened in was the second worst of my life and I'm never really going to get over it. I also thought I would be done with dogs forever but...  Her name is Daisy and she's a 3 month old border collie / australian kelpie rescue. Some absolute loving assholes bred their dogs and then decided they didn't want the pups. After several other infuriating things happened, the pups were hand-reared by a lovely foster mum, and obviously quickly adopted because they were all extremely cute. Daisy got adopted and then brought back because the guy turned out to be extremely allergic to dogs. And then... nobody seemed to want her for a month. I did though, so a week after I first met her, she's chillin in my kitchen after a long-rear end car ride, a big play in my huge empty yard, and dinner. Look at those ears. Look at them.  Glad I finally have something to do with the ~1/2 acre that I thought Karl would be running on. Got plenty of toys, balls, ropes, etc and plan to train her to run alongside a bike and just generally follow me everywhere as I go about my day. The wife and I both work from home so she'll have company and (hopefully) enough to do. I'm sure I'll have some specific questions in the next month or two. Kinda want to do some agility stuff but I don't know where to start. I'm fine with training generally, but what could/should I teach beyond the come, sit, stay, drop, roll left/right, shake left/right, back, get away, leave it, bring it, where's your X, go to bed/box/couch, speak, shush that I got Karl to do? Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Mar 15, 2019 |
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Elector_Nerdlingen posted:Kinda want to do some agility stuff but I don't know where to start. I'm fine with training generally, but what could/should I teach beyond the come, sit, stay, drop, roll left/right, shake left/right, back, get away, leave it, bring it, where's your X, go to bed/box/couch, speak, shush that I got Karl to do? Classes will be best for a lot of the equipment work. Groundwork at home prior to that involves a lot of focus work. I recommend Leslie McDevott's Control Unleashed stuff, basically just making sure your dog is under control and paying attention to you in a pretty stimulating environment. Building toy and tug drive will also help with agility to be able to reward in motion. No jumping until growth plates close, and if you want to teach a really solid set of weaves, order a set of 2x2s and search for ' a new twist on training with 2x2s' - there's a downloadable clean run article. If you don't feel like getting into classes, onemind has a lot of distance learning stuff (https://www.oneminddogs.com). It's mostly paywalled, but I really enjoyed working with my old instructor who followed this handling system.
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Take two leashes - attach one to the flat collar around the dog's neck or a harness. The headcollar is only for gentle braking and discouraging pulling, because it puts a weird strain on the dog's neck. When they get used to it, you can walk them on it alone. For getting used to it, use treats and do frequent short sessions of having him wear it with no leashes attached. Engineer Lenk fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Mar 17, 2019 |
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I recently adopted a rescue Maltese puppy who is about 11 weeks old, and according to our vet, small for his breed. He is literally one pound. He seems normal and healthy though. The vet recommended bringing in a stool sample to be tested for parasites as a precaution. I don't think I've ever done that with other dogs I have owned. Is it a reasonable test to have performed or is it just a money-making thing for vet clinics? His stool seems normal to me.
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Hot Wheels Tracks posted:I recently adopted a rescue Maltese puppy who is about 11 weeks old, and according to our vet, small for his breed. He is literally one pound. He seems normal and healthy though. The vet recommended bringing in a stool sample to be tested for parasites as a precaution. I don't think I've ever done that with other dogs I have owned. Is it a reasonable test to have performed or is it just a money-making thing for vet clinics? His stool seems normal to me. Sounds like a reasonable test for a super-tiny dog.
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