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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

saintonan posted:

https://twitter.com/djlavoie/status/1101109495235792896


This really, really cannot be understated. Even two newspapers in the same city have diametrically opposite coverage of the same event. It's not just that a significant percentage of Americans, including huge majorities of many states, have different opinions, they have different realities. Conservatives are never going to hear about Trump Administration crimes because they only get their news from "trusted sources".

If you want to try to bring America back together into something resembling one whole nation again, this is the very first problem you have to solve, before you can even attempt anything else.

gently caress em, they are a diminishing minority of dying olds and dumb "ironic" asswipes. focus on moderates and independent types.

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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

saintonan posted:

This really, really cannot be understated. Even two newspapers in the same city have diametrically opposite coverage of the same event. It's not just that a significant percentage of Americans, including huge majorities of many states, have different opinions, they have different realities. Conservatives are never going to hear about Trump Administration crimes because they only get their news from "trusted sources".

If you want to try to bring America back together into something resembling one whole nation again, this is the very first problem you have to solve, before you can even attempt anything else.

remember that this isn't anything new, a hundred years ago newspapers were even worse for bias and opinion shopping

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Solaris 2.0 posted:

My apologies this thread moves fast and I did a quick skim and didn't see this posted, but, uh in a "normal" time line this would be front page news for weeks.

Trump's big boy meeting with equal partner and best friend Kim Jong Un just went down in flames.
He is leaving early, no progress, no deal, all humiliation

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/28/18244324/trump-north-korea-deal-fail-kim-sanctions


Ouch.

This morning, while discussing this story, NPR played an extended clip from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KK9cVZvg0M

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better


But how did they get the van that this is airbrushed onto into the conference hall?

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

saintonan posted:

https://twitter.com/djlavoie/status/1101109495235792896


This really, really cannot be understated. Even two newspapers in the same city have diametrically opposite coverage of the same event. It's not just that a significant percentage of Americans, including huge majorities of many states, have different opinions, they have different realities. Conservatives are never going to hear about Trump Administration crimes because they only get their news from "trusted sources".

If you want to try to bring America back together into something resembling one whole nation again, this is the very first problem you have to solve, before you can even attempt anything else.

The real question though is how does the market support three different flavors of Mike and Ike.

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer

Thanks for reminding me conservative artists, like conservatives in all creative fields, are total poo poo

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah, they have nothing real to offer because the left doesn't care and most people want some sort of real healthcare that's single payer or universal or something. people have seen what their tax plan gets which is gently caress you, more money for the donor class. trump is a loud failure and the GOP is petty and stupid. sure the chuds will clap, but no one else is.

And yet they will pull R and the Dem hierarchy, now confused on who to support, will likely try to at least push out Warren and Bernie if nothing else because WE HAVE TO ATTRACT REPUBLICANS. What remains to be seen is who will be more depressed in 2020, dem or R voters.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

CuddleCryptid posted:

But how did they get the van that this is airbrushed onto into the conference hall?

Roy Moore drove it in.

Verus
Jun 3, 2011

AUT INVENIAM VIAM AUT FACIAM


Wow, I guess there really aren't any mountains east of the Mississippi.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Solaris 2.0 posted:

My apologies this thread moves fast and I did a quick skim and didn't see this posted, but, uh in a "normal" time line this would be front page news for weeks.

Trump's big boy meeting with equal partner and best friend Kim Jong Un just went down in flames.
He is leaving early, no progress, no deal, all humiliation

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/28/18244324/trump-north-korea-deal-fail-kim-sanctions


Ouch.

There was never going to be any progress or deal; Trump has been getting played all along. The North Koreans have wanted one on one bilateral talks forever because they see it as recognition of their importance and legitimacy. We (in previous times with more adept administrations) have forever told them to gently caress off, it's multilateral talks involving all the neighbors or nothing, because we recognize that others have a stake in the decisions. Trump simply caved to their demands and barked about it being historic progress and a huge victory to his idiot base, but it was never going to go anywhere because that was never the point for DPRK.

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

CuddleCryptid posted:

But how did they get the van that this is airbrushed onto into the conference hall?

This has more of a "tailgate of an $80,000 pickup" feeling

thewalk
Mar 16, 2018

Otteration posted:

How does 40% win Trump an election (again)?

Because 60%...ish of the voting age population votes. And 34% of that 40% trump supporters will vote.

And because the electoral college gives red states the advantage(hillary won by 3 mil votes) we need 40% to vote against trump to beat the 34% that vote for him

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer
I love how the west coast of the USA is Mordor on that earth.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Sarah Kliff interviews Pramilla Jayapal about the M4A bill

https://www.vox.com/ezra-klein-show-podcast

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

luxury handset posted:

remember that this isn't anything new, a hundred years ago newspapers were even worse for bias and opinion shopping

remember the USS Vuvuzela, to hell with Venezuela

Phobic Nest
Oct 2, 2013

You Are My Sunshine

The Q idiots attending will be pissed at having their emperor depicted with the round earth hoax.

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



Phobic Nest posted:

The Q idiots attending will be pissed at having their emperor depicted with the round earth hoax.

I mean the Earth is round it's just a disk not a sphere, DUH

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

saintonan posted:

https://twitter.com/djlavoie/status/1101109495235792896


This really, really cannot be understated. Even two newspapers in the same city have diametrically opposite coverage of the same event. It's not just that a significant percentage of Americans, including huge majorities of many states, have different opinions, they have different realities. Conservatives are never going to hear about Trump Administration crimes because they only get their news from "trusted sources".

If you want to try to bring America back together into something resembling one whole nation again, this is the very first problem you have to solve, before you can even attempt anything else.

Notice how both papers are available side by side for purchase, and in fact many people like my father in law buy both these papers every day.

The problem is that people buy both of these rags and feel like they're getting a good overview of "both sides" of the issues, when in fact both are complete dogshit rags designed to pacify the politically illiterate

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Phobic Nest posted:

The Q idiots attending will be pissed at having their emperor depicted with the round earth hoax.

No, that's just the top of the disk. The underside is all dirty and brown.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1101166967787012097

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

Dapper_Swindler posted:

its because most of them don't know the good parts of socialism because all they heard is angry cold war bullshit or angry rich assholes screaming about it. when done well, its great and america should have chance to have Good healthcare without fear of being hosed.

When I explained to them all the ways in which they benefit specifically from socialism they said "sounds like the country has the perfect amount of socialism already." They are lost causes, gently caress them.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Man if Twitter dunks counted for anything she would already be President

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

Rex-Goliath posted:

They’ve been intellectually bankrupt for a while now and with trump in charge they can’t even pretend to have a cohesive ideology anymore. They have nothing left

This is actually 100% true. Back in like the Trump III thread I made an effortpost about how badly I wanted the right to get decimated in 2016 and kick the stupids out of positions of authority. Trump winning meant it was all locked in for years, if not decades.

In fairness, they probably can take advantage of some unforced errors from some overzealous lefts to drum up some anti-socialist fear, but that's extremely short term and just pushes back the massive pivot they'll need to figure out at some point.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

i bet AOC's hair smells bad haha like patchouli and grease beacuse showering wastes energy and she has dreadlocks like a hippie lol i'm just wonderwing whta it smells like lmao

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Failed Imagineer posted:

Man if Twitter dunks counted for anything she would already be President

They do count for that, but only if you're the dunkee and not the dunker.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1101173754095382529?s=19

Do conservatives really need to be told this? Seems like a prerequisite lesson for joining the chud army in the first place

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


‘Damaging precedent’: Conservative federal judge installed without consent of home-state senators

quote:

Seattle attorney Eric Miller was confirmed as a judge on the country’s most liberal appeals court this week without the consent of either home-state senator, a break from tradition that Democrats say Republicans will come to regret.

tl;dr: McConnell just ended blue slips. Probably a good thing in the long run, actually, but in the immediate term it means more conservatives on the courts.

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
All liberal hair smells like a mix of vape juice and arugula.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

luxury handset posted:

i bet AOC's hair smells bad haha like patchouli and grease beacuse showering wastes energy and she has dreadlocks like a hippie lol i'm just wonderwing whta it smells like lmao

That greasy nasty woman is go gross and bad and socialism sucks and nobody should listen to her anyways! Also, I’m not sitting outside her apartment behind this garbage can because I want to see her, I just happened to stop here to tie my shoe and it’s comfortable to be here looking through the camera app on my iPhone, gently caress off.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

I think he just unintentionally called Trump the Antichrist



Alternate joke: I would ask how he sleeps at night, but well,

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/soozannimal/status/1100931573376057344

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

saintonan posted:

https://twitter.com/djlavoie/status/1101109495235792896


This really, really cannot be understated. Even two newspapers in the same city have diametrically opposite coverage of the same event. It's not just that a significant percentage of Americans, including huge majorities of many states, have different opinions, they have different realities. Conservatives are never going to hear about Trump Administration crimes because they only get their news from "trusted sources".

If you want to try to bring America back together into something resembling one whole nation again, this is the very first problem you have to solve, before you can even attempt anything else.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

please do not repost explicit pictures of crimes against humanity

i'm pretty sure that's against thread rules

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Surprised they didn't go for more McDonald's.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
I would not have expected the grilled peppers.

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Failed Imagineer posted:

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1101173754095382529?s=19

Do conservatives really need to be told this? Seems like a prerequisite lesson for joining the chud army in the first place

Chud arguments are so infantile. It's literally the grade school playground "I know you are but what am I" clapback applied to the real world.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Between the left becoming the party of people with no money and the right becoming the party of trashy fast food the entire concept of fine dining is now endangered.

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

TheDisreputableDog posted:

All liberal hair smells like a mix of vape juice and arugula.

Mine sure as gently caress does. Also weed smoke and cheap mousse.

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Where are the hamberders?

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Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

thewalk posted:

Because 60%...ish of the voting age population votes. And 34% of that 40% trump supporters will vote.

And because the electoral college gives red states the advantage(hillary won by 3 mil votes) we need 40% to vote against trump to beat the 34% that vote for him

Just a small reminder that increasing the number of members in the House would solve this problem and significantly reduce gerrymandering to boot.

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