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Amethyst posted:I don't get why a lifer like Pyne is tapping out just as the polls are narrowing. He's perhaps genuinely depressed that all his old friends are gone and replaced by shitheads like Morrison? Pyne likes the champagne and jolly old money laughs style of liberal membership which is drying up.
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Jeff Kennett and Mark Latham were on sunrise, discussing Howard and Abbott supporting Pell. poo poo got surprisingly intense. Latham was actually the normal one who issued a clear statement against Pell and pedophilia, while Kennet caught the hosts completely off guard by supporting Howard and equivocating and trying to avoid acknowledging his clear support of Pell. Its gross as hell hearing him trying to weasel his way around it.
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JBP posted:No it didn't you loving lame brain. I mentioned it because you all think Peterson's readership is a cartoon neckbeard nice meltdown
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Mar 1, 2019 01:53
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Moon Atari posted:Jeff Kennett and Mark Latham were on sunrise, discussing Howard and Abbott supporting Pell. poo poo got surprisingly intense. Latham was actually the normal one who issued a clear statement against Pell and pedophilia, while Kennet caught the hosts completely off guard by supporting Howard and equivocating and trying to avoid acknowledging his clear support of Pell. Its gross as hell hearing him trying to weasel his way around it. Kennett supporting Howard? What the hell? They hate one another's guts.
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Mar 1, 2019 01:54
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Moon Atari posted:Jeff Kennett and Mark Latham were on sunrise, discussing Howard and Abbott supporting Pell. poo poo got surprisingly intense. Latham was actually the normal one who issued a clear statement against Pell and pedophilia, while Kennet caught the hosts completely off guard by supporting Howard and equivocating and trying to avoid acknowledging his clear support of Pell. Its gross as hell hearing him trying to weasel his way around it. How poo poo of a person do you have to be to make Latham, Latham, look better than you.
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Mar 1, 2019 01:55
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You Am I posted:Kennett supporting Howard? What the hell? They hate one another's guts. Yeah this is really weird.
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Amethyst posted:I don't get why a lifer like Pyne is tapping out just as the polls are narrowing. He's perhaps genuinely depressed that all his old friends are gone and replaced by shitheads like Morrison? The polls have narrowed but are still 53-47 in favour of Labor, and 3 (plausibly 6+) years of opposition including a messy rebuilding period isn't exactly appealling.
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Mar 1, 2019 01:59
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Mar 1, 2019 02:00
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pizzagate but its the lnp and uhh wherever rich people eat
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Amethyst posted:I don't get why a lifer like Pyne is tapping out just as the polls are narrowing. He's perhaps genuinely depressed that all his old friends are gone and replaced by shitheads like Morrison? I strongly suspect that they know the polls aren't reflective of the real feeling on the street. And even at 53-47, they're going to take a pounding. I'd say based on state results vs polling, once the dust has settled we'll be looking at at least a 5% swing, which is significant because they only just squeaked in last time. Also there's a very real chance that they've looked at Morrison's approach and either have no faith or want no part in it.
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Mar 1, 2019 02:03
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It's funny talking to people about the swing and having them wring their hands and say "man I don't know it still looks tight", then you remind them of the last election's result and it's all cool relaxation from there.
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Mar 1, 2019 02:05
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You Am I posted:Kennett supporting Howard? What the hell? They hate one another's guts. They are now re-airing clips of the part where he supports Howard, but that is actually the least gross part of it. You really have to see the whole interview because the hosts actually press him on Pell and it gets real uncomfortable. He repeatedly says he doesn't dispute the legal decision, but tries to speak to Pell's good character by saying that after he spoke to him about the pedophilia issues plaguing the church in his time as premier Pell pledged to help stop it. Somehow he fails to connect the dots that rather than speaking to his good character that was evidence of him lying (since not only did he not stop other priests, he himself molested after that point).
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Mar 1, 2019 02:12
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yet to meet anyone irl defend the pedo priest including my insane Qanon relative
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Don Dongington posted:Also there's a very real chance that they've looked at Morrison's approach and either have no faith or want no part in it.
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Mar 1, 2019 02:14
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Trapezium Dave posted:Remember how ScoMo's strategy to winning the last make-or-break by-election somehow managed to cause a significant international diplomatic incident. Yeah I'm pretty sure if we're all able to draw these conclusions, a remotely shrewd operator will be keenly aware. I don't see a situation where Scomo manages to win the election without totally selling out the last bit of moral footing the party might be able to scrape out of the bottom of the pan. And there's a far more likely chance that they'll do that and STILL lose the lower house.
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There are articles citing “anonymous lawyers” who say Pell’s appeal is likely to succeed and I’m getting nervous and mad
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Mar 1, 2019 02:31
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Goddamn. The sunrise facebook thread is full of middle aged women all supporting Kennett and Howard's free speech and accusing the hosts of bullying.
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Mar 1, 2019 02:32
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Moon Atari posted:Goddamn. The sunrise facebook thread is full of middle aged women all supporting Kennett and Howard's free speech and accusing the hosts of bullying. Awful show has awful viewers whodathunkit
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Mar 1, 2019 02:36
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Pyne's probably lined up a job with the French Submarine Builder for a few million.
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Comstar posted:Pyne's probably lined up a job with the French Submarine Builder for a few million. Later, he's investigated by the Federal ICAC for taking bribes from the French Submarine Builder for a few million.
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You Am I posted:Even Pyne's leaving? Wow. The rats are well and truly scuttling off the sinking ship If Morrison somehow pulls out a win (never underestimate Australian voters ability to be bribed through a pre-election budget) the whole government is gonna be some wacky Scrubs season 9 style soft reboot.
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Senor Tron posted:If Morrison somehow pulls out a win (never underestimate Australian voters ability to be bribed through a pre-election budget) the whole government is gonna be some wacky Scrubs season 9 style soft reboot. I wonder if they've learnt their lesson from the  2016 Budget.And if they lose it's going to be even crazier, because people like Porter and Dutton might go. I'm starting to think Abbott might have a chance of being Opposition Leader again because none of the other people left want the job.
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You Am I posted:Kennett supporting Howard? What the hell? They hate one another's guts. JBP posted:Yeah this is really weird. Reclines Obesily posted:pizzagate 
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I wonder if they've learnt their lesson from the Abbott is losing his seat to an Olympic gold medalist.
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I'm sorry why is the thread arguing about the value of a person's character being tied up in the diversity of their immediate friendship circle? Can we go back to talking about Pell? I missed a lot of the live updates on things because I have been busy as gently caress but I watched some media bites last night which was discussing the number of journos saying it was more a trial by media than jury. What's up with that?
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Gridlocked posted:I'm sorry why is the thread arguing about the value of a person's character being tied up in the diversity of their immediate friendship circle? Yes, trial by media, who are conveniently lining up every loving Pell supporter they can flush out to speak on his behalf.
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Gridlocked posted:I'm sorry why is the thread arguing about the value of a person's character being tied up in the diversity of their immediate friendship circle? Its not, hth
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Gridlocked posted:I'm sorry why is the thread arguing about the value of a person's character being tied up in the diversity of their immediate friendship circle? People who have been supporting Pell can't believe that he could do this sort of thing even though he's now a convicted rapist, and they're trying to convince themselves that he's not. Basically Sunk Cost Fallacy. Or Sunk Cost Fellacio in this instance am I right lol.
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NPR Journalizard posted:Its not, hth Yeah please stop conflating "Bell Jar" with "the 50 or so other posters that make up this thread".
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Gridlocked posted:Can we go back to talking about Pell? I missed a lot of the live updates on things because I have been busy as gently caress but I watched some media bites last night which was discussing the number of journos saying it was more a trial by media than jury. What's up with that? The narrative is that the evidence wasn’t enough to convict him, and the jury instead acted on their impression of Pell as a disgusting piece of poo poo - in which case the appeals court will find him not guilty. I must admit I find the process a bit esoteric; what’s the point of a jury of one’s peers if their unanimous decision can subsequently be overturned by judge(s) on appeal? We may as well just use a trial by judge for all cases.
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Comstar posted:Later, he's investigated by the Federal ICAC for taking bribes from the French Submarine Builder for a few million but not charged due to lack of evidence.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:I thought they were talking about the people jbp makes up to parrot their opinions How is it parroting when they have the exact opposite opinion to my own? What's your Myers Briggs?
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BBJoey posted:The narrative is that the evidence wasn’t enough to convict him, and the jury instead acted on their impression of Pell as a disgusting piece of poo poo - in which case the appeals court will find him not guilty. Yeah the argument is basically that one witness isn't enough evidence and that there was some point of contention around his plea being entered which sounds like a mechanical thing I don't really understand. I am kind of worried this will get up on grounds that of course it will. They're going to argue the jury didn't follow directions in reaching the verdict and that one witness is testament to that or whatever.
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JBP posted:Yeah the argument is basically that one witness isn't enough evidence and that there was some point of contention around his plea being entered which sounds like a mechanical thing I don't really understand. I am kind of worried this will get up on grounds that of course it will. he really puts the pell in appellant
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bell jar posted:he really puts the pell in appellant It's just loving awful. Another shining example of why you shouldn't tell anyone you were sexually violated because even if it's true you're going to get jacked up by all and sundry.
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