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This week's dev blog is up, touching on the background lore of the new northmen faction: http://battlebrothersgame.com/dev-blog-116-the-barbarians-part-i/ Those armours look fully sick. 
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Nordick posted:This week's dev blog is up, touching on the background lore of the new northmen faction: So, they're Norscans. Like they're not even trying to put a twist on it, it's just Warhammer Fantasy Norscans. Just without the actual magical hell-plate on their best guys, thankfully.
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Mar 1, 2019 15:25
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Night10194 posted:So, they're Norscans. Like they're not even trying to put a twist on it, it's just Warhammer Fantasy Norscans. Eh,it's all drawing on history Fallen ancient Rome, northern barbarians, medieval Germany, etc.
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Mar 1, 2019 15:58
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Nordick posted:This week's dev blog is up, touching on the background lore of the new northmen faction: skull hammer. Skull Hammer. SKULL HAMMER! SKULL HAMMER!!! I like the Skull Hammer The Barbarians seem a little close to Orcs in tactics though it does sound like they probably won't have fuckoff amounts of armor like the higher Orcs do
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Mar 1, 2019 16:03
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SickZip posted:The Barbarians seem a little close to Orcs in tactics though it does sound like they probably won't have fuckoff amounts of armor like the higher Orcs do
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Mar 1, 2019 16:31
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From reading the blurb it seems like they might also favor rotation?quote:They are a horde of ferocious warriors in a constant shuffle of everyone trying to bring their weapons to bear against the enemy.
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Mar 1, 2019 16:51
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Eh,it's all drawing on history I more meant the bit about 'They worship those who ascended by deeds to become living Gods'. They sound fun to fight, though. Looking forward to it.
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Mar 1, 2019 16:59
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The heaviest set of armour there looks loving incredible
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Mar 1, 2019 18:06
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RabidWeasel posted:The heaviest set of armour there looks loving incredible
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Mar 1, 2019 18:35
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Night10194 posted:I more meant the bit about 'They worship those who ascended by deeds to become living Gods'. It doesn't say "living gods" though, it says "ancestors who ascended to be gods through their deeds in life". To me that just reads like particularly badass ancestors being worshipped after they've passed, not that they're walking around like some immortal champions of Chaos.
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Mar 1, 2019 18:46
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Nordick posted:It doesn't say "living gods" though, it says "ancestors who ascended to be gods through their deeds in life". To me that just reads like particularly badass ancestors being worshipped after they've passed, not that they're walking around like some immortal champions of Chaos. I was kind of hoping I'd get to murder one, though. I'm also really glad they're giving you the option to play as the new guys, too. That way you can play with all the new equipment sooner. More importantly, it'll be a good excuse to finally try playing as a brigand.
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Mar 1, 2019 18:53
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How far, I wonder, could you take the brigand lifestyle with these new guys? I am reminded of how Beastmen in Total War basically just consume towns and move on without putting down roots. Normal gameplay in Battle Brothers is fostering relations and buying goods, but I wonder if you can actually be successful enough at pillaging villages and caravans to get by without spending a dime in a village market.
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Mar 1, 2019 18:57
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I don't think you can play as these guys yourself. The Raider background says you start as Brigands with some of the nordic/Rus gear, not the Barbarian faction.
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Mar 1, 2019 19:24
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I hope if raiding towns is something to be added if we get new City/Camp battlemaps. Could spice up the combat more.
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Mar 1, 2019 21:04
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marshmallow creep posted:How far, I wonder, could you take the brigand lifestyle with these new guys? I am reminded of how Beastmen in Total War basically just consume towns and move on without putting down roots. Normal gameplay in Battle Brothers is fostering relations and buying goods, but I wonder if you can actually be successful enough at pillaging villages and caravans to get by without spending a dime in a village market. Historically, raiders and brigands still went to markets. Those were just different markets from the ones they robbed. Real life pirates do the same thing, where some ports are for pillaging, and some ports are for selling your slightly-bloody goods at a discount, no questions asked. Mercenaries could be even more audacious. During the 30-years-war, there are few tales of mercenaries setting up temporary markets right next to a recently sacked town, and selling unwieldy looted possessions for coin back to the survivors of the sack.
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Mar 1, 2019 21:27
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Back Hack posted:Man, I wish nets and throwing weapons would eat ammo like instead of being consumables. Javelins and axes use ammo instead of being spent on use, at least. Also yeah, going to give the ol' Caesar's Circle to that Aspiring Champion.
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Mar 1, 2019 23:20
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Maybe they will add in barbarian camps you can visit. Like lairs but towns that randomly spawn.
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Mar 2, 2019 01:16
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Raiding would be way more viable if we can have places to resupply tools other than towns and settlements.
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Mar 2, 2019 01:58
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Wizard Styles posted:
Yeah I tried this, it's not a good idea. You just get a bunch of max moral unholds.
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Mar 2, 2019 05:04
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Gridlocked posted:Yeah I tried this, it's not a good idea. You just get a bunch of max moral unholds. I was hoping that between having decent weapons, Fearsome and some Shield Experts the Ancient Dead would do a bit better but they didn't manage to kill a single Unhold in a 14 vs 5 fight.
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Mar 2, 2019 13:43
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To be fair, my grandma could probably beat up wiedergangers
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Mar 2, 2019 14:14
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The Lord Bude posted:To be fair, my grandma could probably beat up wiedergangers I have an idea for a new background....
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Mar 2, 2019 19:50
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Goblin City. I ended up giving everyone shields with the exception of the trio of Polebros (I am pretty sure that mastery will get nerfed in the next big patch), even my usual two-handers, because Gobbos have high-evasion and low health, so hitting and cheer damage is what matters, so swords and spears for reliability, cleavers for damage and maces for convenient stuns. The Bros with the Flail and Axe have reds I feel were good enough even in this situation. The only one without the +ranged defense shield also has a red that's just as good against ranged fire. I also figured having shields was more important than damage since it's going to rain arrows and bolas. Note that the ranged dudes in the backline are all going to switch to Billhooks or shield+weapon sets after the battle starts, they're all mediocre shooters. This is just my usual setup to bait a charge.  Map was decent enough, I came at night because I felt the archers were a liability with all the wolves moving around, also so the shamans would spend most of their actions giving night vision instead of casting vines or mosquitos on my guys. I still spread out the party in duos or trios to minimize the effects of snaring vines. In retrospective, I think Night Owl potions and a more circular formation, plus the Footwork + Dogployment maneuver could have made archers effective in this situation, but I didn't have any of the potions and it would be a long trip to craft them.  Battle was pretty much decided at this point, what really did the Goblins in was their morale breaking.  Only one loss. RIP Wigald. Not a bad Bro, but his only really good stat was fatigue, an acceptable price to pay for the grand prize.  Spoiler for the aftermath of the Goblin City, if anyone is curious.    I've done the Witch's Hut before. Now there's only the Kraken and Black Monolith to consider the game beaten, onwards!
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Mar 6, 2019 01:03
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I just realised: is that a Goblin Slayer reference at the end?
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Mar 6, 2019 02:42
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The meta would be cool if that line was updated every time a BB player sacked the goblin city
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Mar 6, 2019 04:24
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Eh,it's all drawing on history lovely little monsters boiling out of the swamps to steal and eat children aka, the Dutch
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Mar 6, 2019 04:31
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ZearothK posted:Spoiler for the aftermath of the Goblin City, if anyone is curious. Is that new with the DLC? I beat the Goblin City for the first time just before it launched, and I didn't get that.
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Mar 6, 2019 08:56
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GreyjoyBastard posted:lovely little monsters boiling out of the swamps to steal and eat children what are your feelings on the Danish?
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Mar 6, 2019 10:01
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So I've encountered alps in about 2-3 battles now, and wow they suck to fight. Am I missing something, or is it optimal to take the armor off of all your bros and have them run around naked when fighting alps? Since armor doesn't seem to do anything vs. the nightmares they spawn. It just gives your bros fatigue penalties. I feel like I must be missing something, because running around naked seems real dumb. Actually, my current best strategy vs. alps is to immediately decline any quest that involves villagers getting nightmares.
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Mar 6, 2019 21:56
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Koldenblue posted:So I've encountered alps in about 2-3 battles now, and wow they suck to fight. Am I missing something, or is it optimal to take the armor off of all your bros and have them run around naked when fighting alps? Since armor doesn't seem to do anything vs. the nightmares they spawn. It just gives your bros fatigue penalties. I feel like I must be missing something, because running around naked seems real dumb. Alps: so powerful that they're giving you real life nightmares
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Mar 6, 2019 23:33
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Yeah I guess running around naked is a pretty common nightmare, so Battle Brothers is just being true to real life. Alps make nightmares come true in more ways than one.
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Mar 6, 2019 23:51
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I am on team "avoid any contracts against Schrakts and Alps". If I hear nightmares or living trees I nope out of it.Wafflecopper posted:Is that new with the DLC? I beat the Goblin City for the first time just before it launched, and I didn't get that. I think so, since the DLC that guy gives you a quest when you first visit the Goblin City (either take out Goblin patrols or burn down 5 outposts) before you can attack it properly.
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Mar 7, 2019 02:27
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Tias posted:what are your feelings on the Danish? similar, but they can build rudimentary boats
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Mar 7, 2019 02:29
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Koldenblue posted:So I've encountered alps in about 2-3 battles now, and wow they suck to fight. Am I missing something, or is it optimal to take the armor off of all your bros and have them run around naked when fighting alps? Since armor doesn't seem to do anything vs. the nightmares they spawn. It just gives your bros fatigue penalties. I feel like I must be missing something, because running around naked seems real dumb. It’s been brought up several times. All you have to do is give each bro a wardog. The war dogs have tons of AP; so they can move and do multiple attacks per round. They kill the nightmares - usually they can kill 2 per round - and you just fan out and kill the alps. It takes a long time in terms of rounds but it’s piss easy even for a very early company as long as you have dogs. Has anyone ever attempted to make a Dagger specialist? I'm tempted because of the Obsidian Shard. I was wondering if it was still worth it to make them a duelist; since Puncture doesn't get the bonus from double grip; and the added ignore armor is pointless when puncture completely ignores armor - the regular attack is made better of course but that's hardly going to help against armored dudes. I think maybe keeping them in a shield is the way to go; and maybe giving them Fearsome since they're attacking 3 times in a turn, thus triggering 3 morale checks. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Mar 7, 2019 |
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Ah, right, I forgot about dogs. I need to start budgeting for them. So if you really wanted the optimal loadout vs alps, you’d have your bros be completely buck naked, with just a spear and a war dog.
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The Lord Bude posted:Has anyone ever attempted to make a Dagger specialist? I'm tempted because of the Obsidian Shard. I was wondering if it was still worth it to make them a duelist; since Puncture doesn't get the bonus from double grip; and the added ignore armor is pointless when puncture completely ignores armor - the regular attack is made better of course but that's hardly going to help against armored dudes. I think maybe keeping them in a shield is the way to go; and maybe giving them Fearsome since they're attacking 3 times in a turn, thus triggering 3 morale checks. I usually give one of my bros Dagger Mastery but it's always in combination with a second one and Quick Hands on a shield user. Daggers pair well with swords since swords do good damage but falter against heavy armor, and because swords don't use up the Fatigue you desperately need for Puncture. Giving a mace bro Dagger Mastery also works well because it turns the bro into a good Geist hunter and makes him much better at fighting Orcs. And maces > swords. GreyjoyBastard posted:similar, but they can build rudimentary boats
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Koldenblue posted:Ah, right, I forgot about dogs. I need to start budgeting for them. So if you really wanted the optimal loadout vs alps, you’d have your bros be completely buck naked, with just a spear and a war dog. I don’t see the need to have them naked; or give them spears. The dogs will take care of the nightmares. I can’t begin to understate how trivial any alp fight is provided you have 1 dog per alp.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:similar, but they can build rudimentary boats   
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The Lord Bude posted:I don’t see the need to have them naked; or give them spears. The dogs will take care of the nightmares. I can’t begin to understate how trivial any alp fight is provided you have 1 dog per alp. Oh yeah, I got you. I just find it weird/funny that apparently the way to min/max is to strip everyone naked. I'm currently being inspired by the thread to try out dagger mastery. So far the added mobility from 3 AP attacks is nice. Perhaps it would combine well with other mobility skills? I'm still early in the game tho, and it seems too bad that it's difficult to find anything better than basic daggers.
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Tier 3 daggers cost like 600, that should really be the least of your worries unless the game hates you and you can absolutely not find them at any weaponsmith. Which can happen, of course.
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