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VH4Ever posted:Yes, keep shaming those dealing with depression and anxiety. Very loving sensitive of you. Get hosed. We're all loving depressed, coming in here and clanging the doomsday bell is exactly what fucks with my head and most others, so do like the rest of us do and cover your mouth when you sneeze. This poo poo is contagious and terrible.
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Easy Diff posted:Forgive my ignorance, but since Cohen plead guilty to a crime, how exactly is he monetizing a book deal given the Son of Sam laws? I don't think there are any current Son of Sam laws that would prevent Cohen from doing this.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Watching him call Cohen a liar over and over, was hoping someone would have asked Jordan what the lies he was charged with were for. chuck todd did actually. He did the really predictable "Certain things are true, everything else is false." Chuck Todd actually had respectable pushback against that bullshit.
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Easy Diff posted:Forgive my ignorance, but since Cohen plead guilty to a crime, how exactly is he monetizing a book deal given the Son of Sam laws? Apparently, traditional Son of Sam laws are unconstitutional, and the revised one just means he has to inform the victims.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:25
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Mr Interweb posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1101890566978224129 A dumb as gently caress take since y’know, feminism is about choice/being free to make choices and there’s literally nothing wrong with being proud of being a wife/husband/spouse or anything else you want to be proud of.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:27
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1glitch0 posted:Tell me the inside joke. She's acknowledging the segment of the population that would find it problematic that she identifies [in any way] as the wife of a powerful man rather than being her own individual. To even make the reference requires knowing that criticism could exist and is worth referencing, even if by poking fun a little bit. It's very much "normal" and completely fine to introduce yourself as the spouse or significant other of someone to a group that is very familiar with that person, but maybe not you. The wife of a prominent public figure probably does this quite a bit.
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tehinternet posted:A dumb as gently caress take since y’know, feminism is about choice/being free to make choices and there’s literally nothing wrong with being proud of being a wife/husband/spouse or anything else you want to be proud of. So much so that it’s like 1.5 steps away from saying that it’s ok to be white.
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KingNastidon posted:She's acknowledging the segment of the population that would find it problematic that she identifies [in any way] as the wife of a powerful man rather than being her own individual. To even make the reference requires knowing that criticism could exist and is worth referencing, even if by poking fun a little bit. Sounds like more "EVERYONE IS SO PC" bullshit to me.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:30
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Mar 4, 2019 01:31
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Feinne posted:Yes the slaveholding ethnostate that was founded in a violent revolution was not founded on blood or ethnicity. America wasn't founded as an ethno-state (ethno-state =/= racist country) and arguing that isn't doing anything but feeding into alt-right revisionist garbage even if that isn't your intention. Honestly bragging about not being founded as a nation state is ridiculous in the first place because the entire concept of the nation state didn't even exist yet, and wouldn't for like another 50 odd years or so. Being founded as "collection of statelet type things mostly run by nobility/rich guys refusing to be controlled by kings" isn't really unique anyway, since that's the backstory for the Netherlands and Switzerland.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:32
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Mar 4, 2019 01:32
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Mar 4, 2019 01:32
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I'm really frustrated seeing Ilhan Omar attacked for her words, but when someone puts up pictures of her next to twin towers none of her colleagues come out to help. loving disgusting and plays right into GOPs bullshit
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Mar 4, 2019 01:35
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SalTheBard posted:I'm really frustrated seeing Ilhan Omar attacked for her words, but when someone puts up pictures of her next to twin towers none of her colleagues come out to help. loving disgusting and plays right into GOPs bullshit Meanwhile, Gym Jordan is putting dollar signs in the name of a Jewish donor in his tweets and not getting any flack for it.
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pkay posted:Sounds like more "EVERYONE IS SO PC" bullshit to me. If I took a girlfriend to a work christmas party and she was mingling without me there I'd expect "I'm KingNastidon's girlfriend" to be a common early introduction to establish why she's there. If my workplace was extremely left/liberal/woke I think most people could find humor in quickly following up how that form of self-identification is a bit taboo as a tongue in cheek reference to the social circles we're walking in. It's not meant as a criticism, but identifying herself as a fellow traveler conversant in those topics.
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KingNastidon posted:She's acknowledging the segment of the population that would find it problematic that she identifies [in any way] as the wife of a powerful man rather than being her own individual. To even make the reference requires knowing that criticism could exist and is worth referencing, even if by poking fun a little bit. This is so far deep in the bubble I don't even know. Not a single person whether on the campaign trail or especially in real life would be alarmed by someone saying, "Hey, I'm Bernie's wife." She was trying to do a political game and failed. Call it what it is.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:42
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KingNastidon posted:If I took a girlfriend to a work christmas party and she was mingling without me there I'd expect "I'm KingNastidon's girlfriend" to be a common early introduction to establish why she's there. If my workplace was extremely left/liberal/woke I think most people could find humor in quickly following up how that form of self-identification is a bit taboo as a tongue in cheek reference to the social circles we're walking in. It's not meant as a criticism, but identifying herself as a fellow traveler conversant in those topics. Sure, that would be fine, but is that what Jane Sanders was doing?
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Mar 4, 2019 01:43
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I'm sorry I didn't (and still don't) understand why that C130 tweet is being posted. I just get nauseous when I see military or cop propaganda, and I'm alarmed that someone is just posting it without commentary into this thread.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:43
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If an incumbent President running for re-election only gets 40% of the vote, that is absolutely dismal for him. I'm sure you can find some EV combos that would let him win with 40% but lol
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Yeah but was his given to him by an ancient Conservative warrior?
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SalTheBard posted:I'm really frustrated seeing Ilhan Omar attacked for her words, but when someone puts up pictures of her next to twin towers none of her colleagues come out to help. loving disgusting and plays right into GOPs bullshit There are some but I 100% agree, not enough https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1102035682468466688 https://mobile.twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1102199314401632257 https://mobile.twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1102212752943259648 https://mobile.twitter.com/RepPressley/status/1102266209842724864 https://mobile.twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1102360672795574272 https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDebHaaland/status/1102292619877593090
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1glitch0 posted:This is so far deep in the bubble I don't even know. Not a single person whether on the campaign trail or especially in real life would be alarmed by someone saying, "Hey, I'm Bernie's wife." Umm going to a rally in Brooklyn for the socialist presidential candidate would very recently be considered "in a bubble." It's an in-joke and probably not something she should have said if attempting to appeal to a very broad audience, but she wasn't. It was at a campaign event for the left-most candidate in a very progressive city where the majority of the crowd should understand the reference. It's completely harmless.
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FuturePastNow posted:If an incumbent President running for re-election only gets 40% of the vote, that is absolutely dismal for him. I'm sure you can find some EV combos that would let him win with 40% but lol It’s bad because he’s an extremely terrible person and an awful president. He’s lost basically nobody since the election.
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SalTheBard posted:I'm really frustrated seeing Ilhan Omar attacked for her words, but when someone puts up pictures of her next to twin towers none of her colleagues come out to help. loving disgusting and plays right into GOPs bullshit A few of her colleagues thankfully have spoken up in her defense, but I agree with you about the party at large. The response has been unacceptably muted and weak from the majority of Democrats.
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BGrifter posted:Yeah but was his given to him by an ancient Conservative warrior? It is the personal sword of Mao Zedong.
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Mar 4, 2019 01:50
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What Jane Sanders said was very loving strange but what's far more mystifying is all the people in the thread saying, "Actually, I'm a straight man and let me tell you... there's nothing offensive about the extremely bizarre poo poo that she said, even though many women have openly expressed offense on Twitter." Not, you know, "Jane Sanders is Bernie's spouse and it's Bernie who has declared his candidacy, not Jane, so what she says doesn't make or break his chances, even if she says something lovely." e: AlBorlantern Corps posted:Jane isn't a politician in the least so I don't think she should really be all that scrutinized Yeah this is the actually relevant point here - she's not running for office, he is. Casey Finnigan fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Mar 4, 2019 |
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Mar 4, 2019 01:52
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It’s bad because he’s an extremely terrible person and an awful president. He’s lost basically nobody since the election. A thing we have to reckon with: plenty of people who hate him as a person and hate the folks he surrounded himself with nonetheless like his policies, and have no problem outwardly saying they want the poor dying in the streets, want back alley abortions, want fake tax cut handouts to the rich and want Muslim bans and family separation at the border. "I hate the man but like the policies." I've heard it more than once here in San Diego. That's what we're up against, now and in the future.
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Jane Sanders’s comment comes across as awkward in 2019 where a broadly understood tenet of feminism is respecting the right of a woman (or any person, frankly) to make her own life choice. But she’s pretty clearly referring to her own experiences with evolution of various post-60s feminisms in which she definitely would’ve taken poo poo from some women for choosing to identify first as a wife. In 1992, Hillary Clinton got in trouble for talking about her career in juxtaposition to not wanting to ‘stay home and bake cookies.’ The right blew it out of proportion for being a jab at “traditional values,” but there were also some feminists who supported the statement on the grounds that having a career was better than being a homemaker. So, while it might seem like an out-of-touch comment with odd phrasing for 2019, there is reasonable context to what she was trying to say. Whether or not that makes it better to include in this kind of speech is debatable but I think trying to call it anti-trans (what?) or generally anti-feminist is super weird.
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Mar 4, 2019 02:04
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There are also a ton of people who don't pay much attention to anything and just think that people are unfairly maligning Trump just because of who he is. If you ask these people "why do you plan to vote for Trump in 2020" they would say "well you know the other guys want to hand out all this free stuff and it just doesn't make sense" or something similarly inane. If you have trouble believing these people exist, travel to any small or midsize town in downstate Indiana or Illinois and ask around.
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i am the bird posted:Jane Sanders’s comment comes across as awkward in 2019 where a broadly understood tenet of feminism is respecting the right of a woman (or any person, frankly) to make her own life choice. But she’s pretty clearly referring to her own experiences with evolution of various post-60s feminisms in which she definitely would’ve taken poo poo from some women for choosing to identify first as a wife. The choice of words she used was terrible and almost dog-whistlely. "I Know its not Politically Correct" is the most bullshit phrase ive ever heard.
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Mar 4, 2019 02:08
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https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1102373124987895809 This is consistent with Dem-leaning folks I've talked to - they like the idea of broader government programs, but they don't like the term "socialism".
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1102373124987895809 This is pretty consistent with reality. People like thing x (Obamacare, Hillary Clinton's policies, M4A, the rich paying their fair share etc..) but don't like the label the conservatives have spent endless time vilifying.
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