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Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Captain Invictus posted:

yeah that takes effort as opposed to clicking a link to their patreon frontpage and being a stupid dipshit on the internet going whoooOOOOAAAAAOOOhhhhh that guy makes 90,000 dollars a year just reviewing transformers!!! that's RIDICULOUS, I'm going to say bad things about him now

finland is not the internet, and letting internet dipshits know what sort of money you make only leads to trouble.

Finnish people do in fact use the internet and have just as many dipshits as every other place.

All the top earners get published in published in newspapers too so you can literally just look at an internet site to find out how much anyone who earned over 100k€ actually got. Looks like my boss made the cut.

Andrast fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Mar 7, 2019

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Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I'm almost certain they once brought up being a bit uncomfortable with a tip jar after how generous people got with the mailbag.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
from personal experience shitheads on the internet if they know how much money you made from something you did as a job and did not consider it worthy of that income will be extra super lovely about it

like when I explained the whole Valve sending me a 1099 tax form because I sold so much stuff on their marketplace, people(specifically: goons) came out of the goddamn woodwork to call me a money launderer, scammer, man of dubious morals etc because they did not consider what I did "normal income", or work worthy of making a lot of money. Same thing with like, doing reviews for toys/comics/etc, or drawing fetish porn for patrons, or playing video games for a living, you can't tell me you've not heard anyone say that's ridiculous that they can make a living from that.

Their exact income should be their business unless they choose to share it. Why does everyone need to know?

Oxyclean posted:

I'm almost certain they once brought up being a bit uncomfortable with a tip jar after how generous people got with the mailbag.
I mean, poo poo, fair enough on that. Can you limit how much can be donated on a patreon per person, so that one person can only do like 5 bucks a month max? That'd be a reasonable solution.

Ridiculous mailbags are just an aspect you have to accept of being an internet celebrity who accepts gifts. People will do that poo poo every single time eventually. Someone sent a top of the line gaming PC to a dude at Giantbomb. this dude(who I'm happy to see is now well over 1k a month from doing reviews) was super antsy about doing a patreon but it allowed him to do what he wants full time and also people send him basically any transformer(and gundam models) he could want now. He must have gotten 5k worth of gifts at this point, after less than a year of having a PO Box to send stuff to.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Andrast posted:

Finnish people do in fact use the internet and have just as many dipshits as every other place.

All the top earners get published in published in newspapers too so you can literally just look at an internet site to find out how much anyone who earned over 100k actually got. Looks like my boss made the cut.

Having access to everyone's taxable income is probably a good thing - we have this in Brazil if you're a public servant, you can also get tax info somewhere for the general public - but I don't think Patreon being public really works the same way. First, because it's not necessarily income - there are a lot of Patreons that are FUNDED by their patrons, so that money goes towards other costs. Second, because it does tend to generate toxicity and expectations of a certain influx of content, which not every creator can or is even aiming for. I feel like being a patron means you are supporting a creative endeavor, and everyone works at a different pace and all.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Captain Invictus posted:

from personal experience shitheads on the internet if they know how much money you made from something you did as a job and did not consider it worthy of that income will be extra super lovely about it

like when I explained the whole Valve sending me a 1099 tax form because I sold so much stuff on their marketplace, people(specifically: goons) came out of the goddamn woodwork to call me a money launderer, scammer, man of dubious morals etc because they did not consider what I did "normal income", or work worthy of making a lot of money. Same thing with like, doing reviews for toys/comics/etc, or drawing fetish porn for patrons, or playing video games for a living, you can't tell me you've not heard anyone say that's ridiculous that they can make a living from that.

Their exact income should be their business unless they choose to share it. Why does everyone need to know?

lovely people are going to be lovely no matter what.

It doesn't really apply here, but in general people knowing each other's income is a good thing because it makes it harder for employers to gently caress over workers since people know what their salary should be.

Dias posted:

Having access to everyone's taxable income is probably a good thing - we have this in Brazil if you're a public servant, you can also get tax info somewhere for the general public - but I don't think Patreon being public really works the same way. First, because it's not necessarily income - there are a lot of Patreons that are FUNDED by their patrons, so that money goes towards other costs. Second, because it does tend to generate toxicity and expectations of a certain influx of content, which not every creator can or is even aiming for. I feel like being a patron means you are supporting a creative endeavor, and everyone works at a different pace and all.

Isn't it still taxable income even if you can deduct the other costs from the taxes? or am I confusing some english terms here

Andrast fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Mar 7, 2019

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Andrast posted:

lovely people are going to be lovely no matter what.

It doesn't really apply here, but in general people knowing each other's income is a good thing because it makes it harder for employers to gently caress over workers since people know your salary should be.


Isn't still taxable income even if you can deduct the other costs from the taxes? or am I confusing some english terms here
Yeah, it doesn't really apply to this. I absolutely agree with you in regards to "normal" work, where someone is working for a company etc, but if they are self-employed via a patreon or similar, I do not think that should necessarily be public.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Captain Invictus posted:

Yeah, it doesn't really apply to this. I absolutely agree with you in regards to "normal" work, where someone is working for a company etc, but if they are self-employed via a patreon or similar, I do not think that should necessarily be public.

but I need to know what my neighbor who is a self-employed plumber makes

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Andrast posted:

Isn't it still taxable income even if you can deduct the other costs from the taxes? or am I confusing some english terms here

I meant full taxable income, it's all taxable but Patreon's usually just a chunk of what people make.

edit:

in other news someone should tell Woolie the Power Rangers FG is aaaactually looking kinda real:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/391421167

Dias fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Mar 7, 2019

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
I don't see why not.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Late to the party stuff, but:

1) I'm glad they spent a bit of time complaining about the game that's not out being at EVO rather then spending the time exclusively dunking on melee, after seeing a deluge of the latter on twitter with almost none of the former. :v:

2) Billy/Mihn's joke/inadvertent sandbag game, and Woolie's total collapse in Degrees of Separation was loving aces.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Oh god, the mihn obliviousness bit on the podcast. Good lord that must be immensely awkward, anyone got a link to that moment? I forget what video woolie said it was in.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Captain Invictus posted:

Oh god, the mihn obliviousness bit on the podcast. Good lord that must be immensely awkward, anyone got a link to that moment? I forget what video woolie said it was in.

"Degrees of Separation" on Woolie's Channel. The whole thing might be worth a watch because it happens several times, and the video ends with Woolie trying to walk Mihn through the process of how to do jokes.

The "barrier between you and your girlfriend" setup feels like that gif where the guy is trying to sink a basket and a guy in a gumby(I think?) suit walks through the door and slaps the ball to the ground.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Captain Invictus posted:

Oh god, the mihn obliviousness bit on the podcast. Good lord that must be immensely awkward, anyone got a link to that moment? I forget what video woolie said it was in.

https://youtu.be/xgCTsC3JY9U

I think it's roughly 16 minutes in when it starts.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Thanks!

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Minhatte no Gokui was super powerful and good, bless.

Now, would you like some DMC5 or instead DMC5?
https://twitter.com/AngriestPat/status/1103721258489970690

MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Mar 7, 2019

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dURZdMc9fls

This loving thumbnail.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Woolie and Pat should've taken a clue from the Live-Action Cutscenes for the intro, IMHO.

Imma chill on that episode until tomorrow tho.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
First few mins is them yucking it up at how early they got the game. I love these fuckers

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Goddamn it, I wanna watch it, but I wanna play the game before I watch, but I gotta buy a new GPU to play it, but then again when has spoilers been important in a DMC game so gently caress it

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Im gonna wait until I play that game and finish it so i can kneejerk judge their gameplay like I didn't just get through being a scrub at it

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
They hosed up not getting the sponsorship from white monster

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
No Woolie/Pat Sekiro LP
"Nope, I cant i cant, not gonna happen, id rather shoot my dick off. he got lost in dmc5 levels, i cant i cant"

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I feel Woolie on a primal level, you guys would HATE to watch me play thru RE2. I'll open up the mini-map whenever I stop for more than 10s.

Marin Karin
Jul 29, 2011

What are you, compared to my magnificence?
Woolie going back to the safe room any time he picks up an item is more frustrating than the map or his cautious pace. I liked the KOTOR LP though so I don't actually give that much of a poo poo.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Captain Invictus posted:

Yeah, it doesn't really apply to this. I absolutely agree with you in regards to "normal" work, where someone is working for a company etc, but if they are self-employed via a patreon or similar, I do not think that should necessarily be public.

what are you trying to hide

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I'm pretty sure patreon lets you hide how much you're actually getting

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

If Pat refuses to stream Sekiro I will once again unsubscribe from SuperBunnyHop.

And from him.

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.

Grouchio posted:

If Pat refuses to stream Sekiro I will once again unsubscribe from SuperBunnyHop.

And from him.

He'll probably stream it himself, he's just refusing to do an LP of it with Woolie to continue the soulsborn series of LPs they've done or whatever.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
this is a great video on devil engine, and it's by matt! And I absolutely did not expect Mecha Baz to show up holy shiiiit piiiiiissss!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5MRcJHybo8&hd=1

Golden Battler
Sep 6, 2010

~Perfect and Elegant~
"Hello everyone. Today, we're releasing all recorded episodes throughout the day, 1 episode every 30 minutes, until we run out of episodes.

After that, you guys will have to wait until the next recording session, so please enjoy our other videos in the meantime.

Have a nice DMC5 pizza day!

-Minh T."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fedXkVFHM1I

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Ah, the Steven Universe episode release method.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
"Woolie hold L3"

*Woolie holds down R3*

WOOLIE, WHY

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Tae posted:

"Woolie hold L3"

*Woolie holds down R3*

WOOLIE, WHY

His inability to tell his left from his right is all encompassing I guess

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


MagusDraco posted:

His inability to tell his left from his right is all encompassing I guess

That's how it works for me too. If I'm paying attention to something else, there's like a 50/50 chance I get left and right wrong.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

It sucks that people were disliking Woolies other videos because they weren't DMC5.

On the other hand, Pat just released a Five and a half hour DMC stream yesterday and at 20 minutes an episode, released every other day, it would take about a month to get to where that one video is at.

By then the hype for DMC will be gone and everyone will be on the Sekiro hype train.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Tae posted:

"Woolie hold L3"

*Woolie holds down R3*

WOOLIE, WHY

The Dark Souls lp of post-break-up LPs

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Nico didn't really click with me prerelease but god drat she's growing on me fast now.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

It sucks that people were disliking Woolies other videos because they weren't DMC5.

For real? What entitled babies.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
https://twitter.com/WoolieWoolz/status/1104855353169244163

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Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?




Or you can not flood people's Youtube feeds. That's an idea. :v:

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