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That Italian Guy posted:I can't really point it out without being super obvious, but I'll repeat there is one item that you have not built yet that is so broken a lot of people self limit themselves to 1-per mission to avoid spoiling the fun at normal difficulty level. I'm playing on commander right now and gently caress that idea haha
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That Italian Guy posted:I can't really point it out without being super obvious, but I'll repeat there is one item that you have not built yet that is so broken a lot of people self limit themselves to 1-per mission to avoid spoiling the fun at normal difficulty level. It sounds like you're talking about the mimic beacon, but that wasn't missing from his detailed breakdown, so I'm kind of lost.
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Bremen posted:It sounds like you're talking about the mimic beacon, but that wasn't missing from his detailed breakdown, so I'm kind of lost. He mentioned it at the beginning, but then when he went through the items one by one he mentioned in details flashbangs but not smokes or beacons; I tried to keep things a bit fuzzy since I didn't want it to be super spoilery. And yeah I'm talking about mimic beacons, cause they are broken af.
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That Italian Guy posted:I can't really point it out without being super obvious, but I'll repeat there is one item that you have not built yet that is so broken a lot of people self limit themselves to 1-per mission to avoid spoiling the fun at normal difficulty level. Skulljacks? Uh, they're fine I guess, a 70% shot at an OHKO is great but it's no better than a sword ranger unless your hacking is super high.
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If it's not that I legitimately can't figure out what I've missed. I'm usually (once I've had a little time to understand the game I'm playing) fairly good at assessing the relative strength of items. I've got Battle Scanner, Flashbang, Medkit, Mimic, Mindshield, Smoke, Nanoscale, Acid Bombs, Dragon Rounds, Frost Bombs and Skulljacks. Nothing there strikes me as broken in any way (apart from frost bombs)
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Natural 20 posted:Skulljacks?
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Commander Keene posted:I'm assuming it's not Skulljacks, because he said "an item you haven't built yet" and you have a jack sitting in Emi's inventory. Tbf, I don't remember Nat having built this item yet, but I may be wrong. I'm sure he has not used it yet though. Also I may have tried to partially obfuscate things a bit outside of spoiler tags to avoid "hints" from becoming too obvious. Or did I? 
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God, the first sectopod or other enemy they face that can shrug off lots of damage is going to loving rinse them. E: Oh poo poo, or the first Chryssalids 
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Lprsti99 posted:God, the first sectopod or other enemy they face that can shrug off lots of damage is going to loving rinse them. Eh, Chrysalids in normal are not that scary in new XCOM, but yeah the "kill everything before they can shot at you" mentality is great up until you start running into Andromedrons or Archons + high HP Advent pods, not to mention the real bastards like Sectopods or Guardians.
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That Italian Guy posted:Eh, Chrysalids in normal are not that scary in new XCOM, but yeah the "kill everything before they can shot at you" mentality is great up until you start running into Andromedrons or Archons + high HP Advent pods, not to mention the real bastards like Sectopods or Guardians. They're not super-tough, but they can take a hit from most of the cast, and they're fast as gently caress (with no flashbangs to slow them down). They might just get swarmed under by the first pack they encounter.
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Natural 20 posted:If it's not that I legitimately can't figure out what I've missed. I'm usually (once I've had a little time to understand the game I'm playing) fairly good at assessing the relative strength of items. It wasn't something you missed, there was some confusion. It's what some of the spoilers were about.
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We can drop it now I think. I played my first game without them and like Nat is doing real well considering the uphill battle he’s been facing since ep 1
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 Before the voting, an absolutely massive shoutout to my amazing artist Bifauxnen. She quietly plugs away behind the scenes to give you the update art that I post here and in the contents, but she went well above and beyond the call of duty for this, turning around an insane request I had in a matter of days. Question 1: https://www.strawpoll.me/17553946 Question 2: https://www.strawpoll.me/17553971
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Natural 20 posted:Amazing  Not an emptyquote.
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It really does make a world of difference having six soldiers instead of four, and this mission shows it. For any other ranger I'd say shadowstep, but if you're planning on keeping Severa concealed I favor shadowstrike; she won't trigger overwatch while concealed anyways, and if something does go wrong having her be able to open up with a greatly boosted shot from concealment while the rest of the team is fighting can be really nice.
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Bremen posted:For any other ranger I'd say shadowstep, but if you're planning on keeping Severa concealed I favor shadowstrike; she won't trigger overwatch while concealed anyways, and if something does go wrong having her be able to open up with a greatly boosted shot from concealment while the rest of the team is fighting can be really nice.  Oh btw about the 100% of shots hitting, that obviously doesn't count overwatch shots. But yeah, the team did great on this mission!
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Oh crap right please treat one vote for shadowstep as being for shadowstrike, I clicked the wrong one 
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That is a godlike poster, I can practically hear the commercial bumper for it.
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To answer your question, "when was the last time we used scanning protocol" the answer is never. 
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Mordja posted:To answer your question, "when was the last time we used scanning protocol" the answer is never. Its a good skill between fights.
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I'll just say I am really looking forward to the next ruler. e: Credit where credit's due, that poster is amazing. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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You da MVP!
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Affi posted:Its a good skill between fights. Agreed, would have even helped them at times.
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Affi posted:Its a good skill between fights. It's not a bad skill at all, just in the moment it always feels like there's something else I want to be doing with that action.
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Bremen posted:It really does make a world of difference having six soldiers instead of four, and this mission shows it. Pretty much. She gets 1 shot if she wants to stay as a super scout once she picks up conceal, make it count by letting her 100%/100% people in high cover because gently caress that one guy in particular.
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Excellent work, all of you! Swords have, uh, kinda turned into Nat's shoulder devil here, haven't they? "Come on, run up and stab this fool, it'll be great!" The tone of this LP has taken a turn from Emi to California Mustang. Will it hold out?
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Fish Noise posted:The tone of this LP has taken a turn from Emi to California Mustang. Will it hold out? Eventually it will switch over to whoever has the biggest sword.
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And then they will rediscover the Axe… and get told the biggest sword in XCOM can be found in WotC.
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So here's what happened with Severa on that early turn (spoilered for people who haven't seen the vid yet, Nat and Tea encouraged to read) Severa was on Concealed Overwatch, so she didn't shoot at first. The Stun Lancer moved around behind her and missed Ma with his lance. At that point the game re-checked LoS and Severa was revealed because the Lancer was now behind her cover...which, in turn, triggered her Overwatch which she used to murder the guy.
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The voiceover for the autopsy was Dr. Vahlen, Tygan's equivalent from the first (new) XCOM game. Mostly infamous for being way too excited about cutting up and "interrogating" aliens. And yeah, if you'd played with the Alien Rulers story mission on it would have explained what's going on more.
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Use scouting protocol when running forward with no scout in concealment! I mean, not now, since you really need Emi just murdering aliens while you grab the objective but in general!
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I caught up with the last two episodes and let me say I am glad Rammer Ez has shown up and hope she gets the second chance she deserves.
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Oh man.  My late stage campaign hit a death spiral of doom. "CIA" Dillon had been pushing too many pencils and got shot by an Andromedan . From then on it was a downward trajectory, losing important people on every mission. We fought like hell but in the end it became hopeless. gently caress having multiple sectopods on a mission. gently caress sectopods in general. gently caress the sectopod that killed my top Colonel in particular. Let's hope Nat and Tea have more success than me. (If it's any comfort I was playing on Veteran difficulty.)
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Acid grenades and other similar grenades can't hit through cover because they are technically not explosive. Also serial is a bit tricky but I think you need to activate it at the start of a round. Other than that wow that is a early avenger defense mission!
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Maybe since Serial itself costs an action you can't use it if you only have one action left in a turn? Might be a bit of QoL from the devs in order to prevent you from wasting it.
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Serial is a sniper skill, and on a sniper it only triggers with the rifle (which takes two actions to shoot), so yeah they didn't want you to move and then Serial and then feel like an idiot for wasting it. It does make things a little wonky when you roll it as a bonus skill on a class that can move+shoot though. You need to activate the skill before you take your move.
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Also it only counts for shooty kills, not axemurder kills
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Honestly the reason Serial requires full action points to activate is that it comes from the sniper skill tree, so they didn’t want you to be able to move, activate Serial, and realize “What the gently caress, I can’t shoot my gun and wasted Serial???” But if you had clicked the button before moving, I believe your plan would have gone off without a hitch. Note for Severa: the game doesn’t make it clear, but (there’s a refrain) the Shadowstrike description that says “not visible” is being extremely precise in its word choice. That is a distinct state from capital-C Concealed and means Concealed or no line of sight. So you’ll get the bonus if you shoot breaking concealment but I think you also get the bonus if you are rushing out to slash from a place where you couldn’t see your target at move start.
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