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Star Wars Saga itself was an odd beast. I've never seen a game where its sweet spot was (arguably) levels 7-12 (maybe 15, it's been a while). When you got there it was great. Before and after... eh.
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See this is explicitly why I like FFG's take, because the standard roll in FFG's system against equal difficulty will most often result in "success with threat," meaning you succeeded, but you also hosed up along the way, so there's a new issue to deal with, and that's as Star Wars as it gets for me.
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ProfessorCirno posted:See this is explicitly why I like FFG's take, because the standard roll in FFG's system against equal difficulty will most often result in "success with threat," meaning you succeeded, but you also hosed up along the way, so there's a new issue to deal with, and that's as Star Wars as it gets for me. Solving problems by barreling into new problems and setting fires off in your wake until you blow up the Death Star is extremely the goal of a star wars system.
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Mar 8, 2019 04:31
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Yea Star Wars is at its best when the core scene is 'we beat the stormtroopers by setting the cantina on fire' pulpy action funtimes.
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Mar 8, 2019 04:59
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Han Solo is the living embodiment of "success with threat" and "defeat with advantage."
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Mar 8, 2019 05:15
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i played in a game of the very mediocre firefly rpg in college and the only thing i remember about it is that there was a pair of character traits you could take called "things go smooth" and "things don't go smooth". all they did was encourage the GM to resolve success in certain ways. I think the go smooth example character was zoe and the not smooth was obviously malcolm reynolds.
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Mar 8, 2019 05:21
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It's really a new thing that RPGs are actually expected to make an active effort to emulate the tone and nature of their source material. Came up in another thread's discussion that Pendragon was incredibly innovative at its time for doing that, including having mechanical representations of the characters' feelings and motivations.
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Mar 8, 2019 09:05
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ProfessorCirno posted:Han Solo is the living embodiment of "success with threat" and "defeat with advantage." I've never seen a better botched Con roll than "We're all fine here, now. How are you?"
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Mar 8, 2019 14:20
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CitizenKeen posted:Firefly or Serenity? There were two of them? Of course there were two of them. I really have no idea which one we played. It was definitely after the movie came out so it could have been either one.
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Mar 8, 2019 15:00
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A friend of mine who's got out of Dystopia Rising posted this to Facebook, and yiiiiiikes.
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Mar 8, 2019 15:02
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Genre emulation should be the goal of most RPG products.
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Mar 8, 2019 15:07
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Pope Guilty posted:A friend of mine who's got out of Dystopia Rising posted this to Facebook, and yiiiiiikes. Did it really need to be run like a cult? Wait, is it a cult?
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Mar 8, 2019 15:08
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andrew smash posted:There were two of them? Of course there were two of them. I really have no idea which one we played. It was definitely after the movie came out so it could have been either one. was it the one where your rating in a skill increased the size of the dice that you rolled?
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Pope Guilty posted:A friend of mine who's got out of Dystopia Rising posted this to Facebook, and yiiiiiikes. wait, why would the dystopia network be making false statements about my criminal history that I would need to indemnify them for like in what circumstance are they going to be doing this, that they are now demanding the right to have me pay for a lawyer for them over it
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Mar 8, 2019 15:13
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andrew smash posted:There were two of them? Of course there were two of them. I really have no idea which one we played. It was definitely after the movie came out so it could have been either one. Serenity was Cortex. Firefly was Cortex Plus Action. I suspect it was Serenity. It came out first, and was Cortex, which was, to use your word, mediocre. Firefly was a pretty solid implementation of the Cortex Plus Action rules, which may not be everybody's cup of tea, but I think is generally regarded as at least a good system, if not great. Though the book was written in a "kind of" in-character manner that was just a total disaster.
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Kurieg posted:was it the one where your rating in a skill increased the size of the dice that you rolled?
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That Old Tree posted:Not quite! Time for me to be a huge nerd about something because of my personal experience (and also handy book collection)! Yeah I was trying to explain the dice cap mechanic, but did so very poorly. I actually hated what they did in Revised, and much prefer the 2e system. ProfessorCirno posted:See this is explicitly why I like FFG's take, because the standard roll in FFG's system against equal difficulty will most often result in "success with threat," meaning you succeeded, but you also hosed up along the way, so there's a new issue to deal with, and that's as Star Wars as it gets for me. yeah, loving same. D6 always has a special place in my heart, though.
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The Serenity RPG is mostly remembered in my RPG group for the rule stating unprotected exposure to vacuum dealt damage equal to rolling every die on the table. Hence referring to how games like Shadowrun have absurd dice pools as "Serenity dice."
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ProfessorCirno posted:See this is explicitly why I like FFG's take, because the standard roll in FFG's system against equal difficulty will most often result in "success with threat," meaning you succeeded, but you also hosed up along the way, so there's a new issue to deal with, and that's as Star Wars as it gets for me. FMguru fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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Mar 8, 2019 16:26
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FMguru posted:FFG Star Wars is so frustrating, a really solid core mechanic buried a zillion pages of gear porn and feat chains. One day there will be a Genesys Accelerated.
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Pope Guilty posted:A friend of mine who's got out of Dystopia Rising posted this to Facebook, and yiiiiiikes. that's a big yikes from me!!! BattleMaster posted:Did it really need to be run like a cult? I go back and forth on whether or not DR was an actual cult, but I do believe that it does engage in a degree of programming of its membership. It prevents people from sleeping, it exposes them to high emotional intensity stimuli without proper safety tools or counseling, it uses love bombing to a heavy degree, and it encourages players to devote their life and their lifestyle and their funds to the game rather than pursuing healthier out of game lifestyles. And this toxic power dynamic is then abused by those at the top at an extremely high level, sometimes just so that the characters of staff members get special spotlight sometime but sometimes so that staff members and their friends can get away with sexually assaulting people. All in all, it's a pretty hosed up situation.
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This is a LARP cult? what lol
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Meinberg posted:that's a big yikes from me!!! Emphasis mine. Wait, what??
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actually3raccoons posted:Emphasis mine. There is a lot of sexual assault that happens at larp. I won't go so far as to say that Dystopia Rising is significantly worse than the median, but it happens and it is all too often ignored if those perpetrating it have access to the halls of power. The concept of the missing stair is one that comes up in a lot of conversations about abuse of power in larp circles. Arivia posted:This is a LARP cult? what lol I mean, basically. I guess the dividing line is that I don't think that Dystopia Rising has an ideological intention behind their actions, instead they're just trying to get as much money from as many people as possible.
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It's loving larp, ofc there's assault and other bullshit going on.
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andrew smash posted:I know this is a weak attempt at a zing but I'm going to answer it seriously. Star Wars isn't a setting where 5% of attempts at tasks fail and 5% succeed unpredictably and without regard for the skill of the people involved - its a setting where characters succeed or fail as the plot dictates is necessary but where this is addressed in-text with a thin veneer of mysticism. Which is something the star wars d6 system's force points actually handled really well. What do you think failures are in RPGs, if not the demands of the plot?
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What the heck is love bombing?
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Dreqqus posted:What the heck is love bombing? Here you go.
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It's when a group oversaturates new or prospective members with praise and adulation. The idea is that it rapidly associates a welcomed, good feeling that the mark will want to continue. It also distracts from some early red flags, and incentivizes "repayment." Pickup artists, cults, military recruiters, and campus greek organizations can all be seen using this as an opening move in some form.
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Hey thanks for the info I'm reading up now. E: this is really gross and has happened to me several times but I didn't know there was a name for it. Dreqqus fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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Regarding all the stories about abusive personalities, what is meant about receipts?
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vuk83 posted:Regarding all the stories about abusive personalities, what is meant about receipts? Receipts refer to things like screenshots of abusive texts or other forms of concrete, direct evidence of abusive behavior. Understandably, they don't always exist and sometimes showing them opens up the survivor for more harassment.
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Mors Rattus posted:wait, why would the dystopia network be making false statements about my criminal history that I would need to indemnify them for I think it's indemnifying them for your false statements about your criminal history. So if you lie and say "nope I've never been convicted of sexual assault, pinky swear" and then you assault someone at an event, that means nobody can sue the DR guys for not doing a proper background check because you said it's all your responsibility. Which, come to think of it, I'm pretty sure is not how anything works.
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gourdcaptain posted:The Serenity RPG is mostly remembered in my RPG group for the rule stating unprotected exposure to vacuum dealt damage equal to rolling every die on the table. Hence referring to how games like Shadowrun have absurd dice pools as "Serenity dice."  Dave? What are you doing, Dave? Why are you putting Frank's dice in that cup? I'm confused, Dave. Why don't you just spend a Fate point and think about this ra
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Thuryl posted:I think it's indemnifying them for your false statements about your criminal history. So if you lie and say "nope I've never been convicted of sexual assault, pinky swear" and then you assault someone at an event, that means nobody can sue the DR guys for not doing a proper background check because you said it's all your responsibility. Which, come to think of it, I'm pretty sure is not how anything works. As far as I can tell, the language covers both.
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Yeah, there's a reason I came to the conclusion to any LARP that isn't invite-only or otherwise has a clearing house is pretty much leaving an open door for predators. It's depressing, but not nearly as depressing as some of my actual LARP experiences.
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Yeah I had a classmate in the local DR scene. There was a very predictable pattern after a quarter wherein she would get hyped for a DR weekend, present first so she could get on the road, and would invariably come back with a horror story about assault or attempted rape at the event. Organized play(at least in my area) seems really susceptible to abusers. Apparently the local Vampire organization all but calls women acting as ST  with a healthy backing of 1990s era sexual harassment
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LARP definitely has a big problem in, as I said, being an inherently social hobby that's most strongly attractive to people with no social skills and no other social hobbies.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:LARP definitely has a big problem in, as I said, being an inherently social hobby that's most strongly attractive to people with no social skills and no other social hobbies. I mean sick burn and all but this kinda poo poo is everywhere and isn't just the domain of badly socialized nerds soooo maybe being dismissive like this is counter-productive to actually solving things
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