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Cardiovorax posted:because food is only a consideration for the first 30 minutes of play or so. Started my first base last night and I noticed because of terrain that enemies were just walking right under my walls. In the midst of figuring this out i figured out why my guys just wouldn't build the walls automatically, because somehow half my walls somehow belonged to the abandoned village that was quite a way on the other side of my base. Still a goddamn fun game. Thought I was all badass after doing some traveling around and survived a few beakthing encounters. When I met one adult beakthing my team of six ended up with 3 characters missing a limb and 2 dead.
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Donkringel posted:Yeah pretty much. Also you can feed them poor quality meat, which only hivers can eat, so it's sort of like animal only food. just want to add that, as you know, hiver princes won't eat poor quality meat.
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Mar 8, 2019 17:57
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Ruzihm posted:just want to add that, as you know, hiver princes won't eat poor quality meat. Oh really? Good to know! Makes total sense, I just read "Hiver etc." And made the assumption across the board.
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Mar 8, 2019 18:46
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OgNar posted:Which is why I just added a mod to turn off food completely, also i used the boy and his dog start and he would not auto feed the dog. Doggo started to die of hunger before I saw. if you don't have a backpack, you gotta throw food on the ground for the dog to eat.
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Mar 8, 2019 21:31
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jfood posted:if you don't have a backpack, you gotta throw food on the ground for the dog to eat. I'm pretty sure there is a backpack hidden away in the starting town for the dog start as well, so it's worth poking around in before you take off. Dropping food on the ground seems completely random a lot of the time if it's going to work or not.
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Mar 8, 2019 21:35
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how is food not an issue for you guys? growing crops works but it's time intensive and doesn't make if you're in an arid area
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Mar 8, 2019 21:58
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steal your rear end off realistically dried meat is super cheap unless you're running like 20 dudes. what you actually feed people doesn't seem to matter as long as they eat something
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Mar 8, 2019 22:06
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Just about anywhere can grow wheat straw. Grow lots of it, make bread. Depending on where you are you could use the wildlife for meat wraps or greenfruit for food cubes. A couple of dedicated farmers will set you for life.
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Mar 8, 2019 22:08
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Farecoal posted:how is food not an issue for you guys? growing crops works but it's time intensive and doesn't make if you're in an arid area Cactus and water. Bon appetite!
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Mar 8, 2019 22:16
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I deal with food by turning the slider up so i barely get hungry. Mechanic sucks tbh
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Mar 8, 2019 22:24
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1.3 on the scale is a nice half-way point between having to care and having to care too much. the idea of having to provision for a long trip is appealing for some reason, but when I get the team back to base there's usually four hundred dustwiches in the food barrel. there definitely comes a point where you'd rather get the starving bandits into a breadline than murdering them for the thousandth time, but no game is perfect.
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I made it to day 35. Had a self sufficient little outpost in Okran's Pride. About 10 dudes, growing cotton and wheatstraw and greenfruits, harvesting hide from small groups of river raptors, and I had just finished making nice leather armor and weapons for everyone. Sent one dude off to trade for steel bars so that I could make training dummies that would let me get everyone's attack up to 15ish before sending the gang out hunting in ruins. Then a pack of beak things ate my trader and pack mule alive, and a god damned herd of ninja showed up at my settlement and left everyone in puddles of their own blood. As everyone lay dying a Holy Nation Patrol showed up and dragged the non-humans away into slavery, and left everyone else to bleed to death. I can't decide if I want to just continue with the two Shek who are good at laboring and running and not much else that have been enslaved by the Holy Nation, or play with a different start. This game is loving awesome.
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Mar 8, 2019 23:08
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Roll with that save man. Stuff like that always makes for some kick-rear end backstory.
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Mar 8, 2019 23:36
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go with the save, its like u chose a slave start it's all good
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Mar 8, 2019 23:44
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Today I had my first experience with beakthings. Holy poo poo this giraffes are hell on wheels 
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Mar 9, 2019 00:58
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Arkitektbmw posted:Roll with that save man. Stuff like that always makes for some kick-rear end backstory. I did this and then we got ate by bonedogs trying to get back to our old house in the Hub. RIP
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Mar 9, 2019 04:03
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I built a base in the Burning Forest and the blood spiders just will not stop coming. At least they're hilarious glass cannons. This spot I found is pretty nice, but it's swamp biome so I need to get riceweed to actually farm food.
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Mar 9, 2019 04:13
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What makes characters 'flicker'? Like sometimes dudes will run up to a training dummy and toggle between training and not training several times a second. Or they'll run up to a storage container and grab and immediately return a resource that they should carrying somewhere else to use.
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Mar 9, 2019 10:08
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OgNar posted:Which is why I just added a mod to turn off food completely, also i used the boy and his dog start and he would not auto feed the dog. Doggo started to die of hunger before I saw. Farecoal posted:how is food not an issue for you guys? growing crops works but it's time intensive and doesn't make if you're in an arid area Bedurndurn posted:What makes characters 'flicker'? Like sometimes dudes will run up to a training dummy and toggle between training and not training several times a second. Or they'll run up to a storage container and grab and immediately return a resource that they should carrying somewhere else to use.
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Mar 9, 2019 12:03
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Hydroponic rice farming is the way to go....Sake and rice bowls in the desert.
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Mar 9, 2019 15:24
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Yeah, hydroponics is real nice, though it's pretty deep in the tech tree. I ended up feeding my people gohan (rice + vegetables). It takes up more inventory squares than food cubes but it sidesteps all the trouble of baking bread
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Mar 9, 2019 15:36
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Honestly, once you have hydroponics, it doesn't matter what you grow, you now basically have an infinite amount of it available to you anyway. I grow marijuana just because I can, but it has a dual benefit in being possible to turn into cloth for further crafting and drugs to sell and/or pretend my squad is smoking.
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Mar 9, 2019 15:44
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Do the number of days passed in game have any negative effect? I'm just messing around with a slave character training stats and I'm already at day 20. Just wondering if that has any downsides.
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Mar 9, 2019 17:13
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None whatsoever, it's just an internal counter. It does affect things like the growth of vegetables and the adulthood and aging of animals, however. A juvenile Bone Dog will grow up into an adult and finally into an elder, which just generally makes them tougher and better. Nothing dies of old age, so do not be concerned by that. The world will change in real-time, but only as a response to you doing certain things. You can spend all of forever watching the day counter go up and it will do you no harm at all.
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Mar 9, 2019 17:29
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People always talk about towns getting overrun over time and important characters disappearing - presumably eaten or shanked by bandits - but I haven't had this happen in my game
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Mar 9, 2019 17:40
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When that kind of thing happens, it's not really dependent on the day count as such anyway. Towns getting overrun is something that can really only happen while you are at least somewhat near them, because unloaded locations do not really have real-time events, which is what animal/bandit assaults are. Named NPCs (at least the important kind) do not leave the towns they spawn in, although unique recruits can sometimes spawn as part of patrols, so if you can't find them it's either a glitch or (more likely) you simply, well, not finding them.
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Reign Of Pain posted:Hydroponic rice farming is the way to go....Sake and Just another day at Burning Man.
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Mar 9, 2019 20:13
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Anyone have modding experience? How hard is it to add an NPC, or several, with dialogue?
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Mar 9, 2019 22:13
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Turpitude posted:Anyone have modding experience? How hard is it to add an NPC, or several, with dialogue? https://discord.gg/3A4Wump Join the Kenshi discord and ask. There is a vibrant modding community there.
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Bedurndurn posted:What makes characters 'flicker'? Like sometimes dudes will run up to a training dummy and toggle between training and not training several times a second. Or they'll run up to a storage container and grab and immediately return a resource that they should carrying somewhere else to use. The container thing can just be a kink in your supply line or even another pawn doing the same thing at the same time. If priority 1 is haul rice to storage and priority 2 is cook rice, they might get conflicted as soon as they have rice in their hands since their top job is put rice in the barrel they took it from. It can be exceptionally frustrating (especially with multiple type barrels). Try to really, really specialize your guys with no overlap as much as possible. And if there must be overlap have the priorities for one much higher than the other. I found the training flash happen when two pawns are told to train on two machines except with opposite priority. So while they're both training they might both be trying hard to get onto the other job at the same time, cancelling it out and creating a mexican standoff. There is a lot of Buridan's rear end stuff happening in this game, it makes me really appreciate rimworld's personal needs system as a deus ex. If you play on ludicrous speed you'll notice how running off for food is important to workflow as it declogs it. I don't think rimworld ai is sophisticated, its just that giving the ai more excuses to say "gently caress this poo poo im watching tv" for an hour ends up removing most loops.
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wit posted:If priority 1 is haul rice to storage and priority 2 is cook rice, they might get conflicted as soon as they have rice in their hands since their top job is put rice in the barrel they took it from This works even for more complex objects like weapons and armor, because appropriate containers for these types of items exist and you would otherwise need to remove every single produced weapon or piece of clothing from the exit slot. This can have silly side-effects, like the forging squaddie accidentally dumping his own clothes into the chest along with the stuff you want there, but that's more of a minor issue that doesn't crop up too often. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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My weaponsmith would forge katanas until he looked like Roronoah Zoro, then go and sit down until I told someone else to take the swords off him and put them in the weapon cabinet. This was with a haul-to-cabinet job on the smith, I'll have to try without it. My armorsmith would also put on the armor I told him to make, but I suspect that would have been fixed by giving him something to fill the armor slot, because whenever he made something else he would run it across the base to the armor chest. It actually kinda impeded his workflow, I need to get better at grouping industries.
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Mar 10, 2019 16:10
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Be aware that there are specific containers that are internally marked as places for storage, even though you wouldn't be able to tell the difference by looking at them from in-game. It's the difference between a General Chest and a Weapon Cabinet - they both look just like regular inventories, but one is internally declared as a go-to place for dumping unneeded weaponry, so check if you're really using the right one and not just something named Weapon Cabinet. If you can't make it work in your game as-is, try using a mod that improves storage containers. They usually specifically add better-sorted chests that are intended to solve that particular issue.
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Mar 10, 2019 16:42
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Is there a way to force, either legit console command, to force a NPC to become part of your group? I've been playing as a slave and there's another NPC that has been continually breaking out and fighting the guards just like I have been and I really like their moxy and would like to bring them with me when I decide to break out.
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Mar 10, 2019 16:51
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Vakal posted:Is there a way to force, either legit console command, to force a NPC to become part of your group? You can save scum until he offers to follow you after unlocking his cage and shackles, then save scum right before getting out of Rebirth until he joins your party 
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Mar 10, 2019 16:57
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Vakal posted:Is there a way to force, either legit console command, to force a NPC to become part of your group? These are mods I recommend in general, they make the whole squad system far more flexible by turning effectively anyone at all into a potential recruit. Don't use both at once, though, they're incompatible due to overlapping dialogue triggers.
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Leal posted:You can save scum until he offers to follow you after unlocking his cage and shackles, then save scum right before getting out of Rebirth until he joins your party Cool, thanks. Also, is it normal for your characters head to get shaved when you get enslaved, or did I run into a bug? Either way I kind of like it since my guy has a long beard and now looks like the male monk from Diablo 3 which fits in nicely with his growing martial arts skills.
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Mar 10, 2019 17:14
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Vakal posted:Cool, thanks. They do shave you when you get enslaved. After you escape it'll come back over time or if you hit up a plastic surgeon.
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Mar 10, 2019 17:19
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I know the game is ambiguous on lore but having stumbled upon a librarian in the farthest east and just had my mary sue blasted up (carrying said ambiguous lore funny enough), are those maybe malfunctioning orbital lasers from the apocalypse? They couldn't be any kind of radiation, not the way they move.
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ive been playing as a skeleton as my first game, and so far i have levelled up my labour ability a lot by mining stuff. Is there a way to craft building materials, or am i stuck buying them from the bartender? also the city i started in is completely broken except for the bar, can I help fix up the place or anything to get more stores?
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