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Professor Funk posted:The Raiders have three 1st round picks and just obtained one of the 3 or 4 best receivers in football for almost nothing. They’re in a pretty decent spot, despite the hate that Gruden gets (rightfully most of the time).
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LiquidFriend posted:They are, but they've also have got to get those picks right. Brown is a good grab for them if they can keep him happy and get a QB that can take advantage of him. They have to hit on those picks anyway. That’s the point of having the picks. “You should draft good players in the first round” shouldn’t dissuade you from getting a player like Antonio Brown for (again) nothing.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:20
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Professor Funk posted:They have to hit on those picks anyway. That’s the point of having the picks. “You should draft good players in the first round” shouldn’t dissuade you from getting a player like Antonio Brown for (again) nothing.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:24
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SKULL.GIF posted:I think people are maybe overrating Brown's conflict factor here. Is Derek Carr comparable on the "entitled rapist rear end in a top hat" level as Roethlisberger is? no one is on the rear end in a top hat level of Ben Carr is more of your garden variety chud athlete level of rear end in a top hat Maybe Brown gets mad at him for being kinda bad at QB during the season though
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Mar 10, 2019 07:27
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Apparently the price difference to the Steelers between an almost out of the league Martavis Bryant and the best WR of the last half-decade is a fifth-round pick.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:28
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SKULL.GIF posted:I think people are maybe overrating Brown's conflict factor here. Is Derek Carr comparable on the "entitled rapist rear end in a top hat" level as Roethlisberger is? Carr is a replacement level bible-thumping meathead. Roethlisberger a first-ballot Hall of Fame lovely Person.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:29
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"they've got to hit on those picks" ya that's why they grabbed a guy who does nothing but draft grading for a GM and kicked Reggie to the curb
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Mar 10, 2019 07:29
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LiquidFriend posted:Thank you for pointing out how the draft works out. Did not know that till today. You are welcome. Your point about the draft was very bad and very dumb
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Mar 10, 2019 07:29
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Spoeank posted:Apparently the price difference to the Steelers between an almost out of the league Martavis Bryant and the best WR of the last half-decade is a fifth-round pick. Same team that said goodbye to Wallace when he was a superstar and...were proven pretty much right to let him go? I'm going to be super pissed if that happens again. That would mean Ben is actually good. That's bullshit.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:32
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Professor Funk posted:You are welcome. Your point about the draft was very bad and very dumb  You got me really good I guessI mean really, I don't even know where you got the basis for your original post over it because I don't think anyone is hating for the trade compensation but whatever. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Mar 10, 2019 07:34
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And Steelers are still eating $20ish million? With the $50ish million for three year figure being reported, is that including $20 million Steelers are paying, or what? If Raiders are paying $12 million per year for three years, and the rest is Steelers, that's even more lol
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Mar 10, 2019 07:37
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sourdough posted:And Steelers are still eating $20ish million? With the $50ish million for three year figure being reported, is that including $20 million Steelers are paying, or what? If Raiders are paying $12 million per year for three years, and the rest is Steelers, that's even more lol I think they're just eating the cap hit, at least that's the way it usually works.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:44
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sourdough posted:And Steelers are still eating $20ish million? With the $50ish million for three year figure being reported, is that including $20 million Steelers are paying, or what? If Raiders are paying $12 million per year for three years, and the rest is Steelers, that's even more lol the dead cap is the prorated signing bonus for the remaining years accelerating into this year
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Mar 10, 2019 07:44
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Ah I see, so it's already been paid. Makes sense.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:45
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Iodised QQ posted:no one is on the rear end in a top hat level of Ben He'll be openly chewing Carr out by week 9
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Mar 10, 2019 07:57
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oakland is "going dumb" trading for "mr big mess"
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Mar 10, 2019 08:00
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a neat cape posted:Only getting a 3rd and 5th for Brown is insane, what the gently caress Steelers I doubt they were really getting many offers, and Brown was being a shithead about it. This was probably one of the best offers they got.
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Mar 10, 2019 08:21
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bwahahaha I hope now that he's gone AB really unloads on Ben. He can't be the only guy in that locker room that thinks he's a piece of poo poo
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Mar 10, 2019 08:32
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AB is going to lariat Ben Roethlisberger so hard he’ll spin in a circle.
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Mar 10, 2019 08:40
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Was the Hard Knocks team announced yet? Gotta be Oakland at this point.
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Mar 10, 2019 10:17
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Essentially trading Amari Cooper a third and a fifth for Antonio Brown and a first round pick Raiders good??!!!??
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Mar 10, 2019 11:27
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People are saying it’s a good trade and in a vacuum sure but aren’t the Raiders supposed to be rebuilding? Trading for an aging receiver undercuts that a bit
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Mar 10, 2019 11:31
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CharlestheHammer posted:People are saying it’s a good trade and in a vacuum sure but aren’t the Raiders supposed to be rebuilding? Trading for an aging receiver undercuts that a bit Getting one of the best receivers in NFL history for peanuts (and not having to add years to his contract) before you’re about to move to a new city is a great move no matter what. AB’s gonna be a model citizen for at least a season. He’s got a huge chip on his shoulder to prove the Steelers wrong. Adun fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Mar 10, 2019 11:42
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Bigass Moth posted:He was extremely good that year but it was a joke vote. I don't think he was even that good, he had the 11th most yards and 14th (15th if you include  ) best ypa
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Mar 10, 2019 13:05
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I’m not surprised at the compensation the Steelers got for AB. He’s like the worst teammate in the NFL lol
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Mar 10, 2019 13:08
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Eifert Posting posted:People who actually watched Browns games realized Hillis was good only because Vickers was having the most dominant season any fullback has had in the post-expansion NFL. Lawrence Vickers was on another planet. He was so freakishly good.
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Mar 10, 2019 13:13
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CharlestheHammer posted:People are saying it’s a good trade and in a vacuum sure but aren’t the Raiders supposed to be rebuilding? Trading for an aging receiver undercuts that a bit I think Gruden sucks as much as the next guy but if I may play devils advocate a bit... You could say that this is a good part of the rebuild. They may well have spent a 1st or 2nd on a potential number 1 wr, which may have been a bust. Now though they have a #1 WR who is definitely (okay he carries the risk of melting down) very good, for a 3rd. Now those higher picks can go on addressing other areas of need.
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Mar 10, 2019 13:23
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Now the Raiders can use their firsts to draft three punters and have a punting competition for the ages.
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Mar 10, 2019 13:36
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The Steelers carry over Bell’s hold from last year so it’s really only like $6 mil against the league cap, all things considered
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Mar 10, 2019 13:38
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As much as I poo poo on Gruden, older WR have always loved him. Well, besides Keyshawn of course. Like loving Joey Galloway turned into an all pro in Tampa.
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Mar 10, 2019 13:52
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This loving owns. Go AB. (This will probably end badly)
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Mar 10, 2019 13:57
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ahahahaha christ the steelers have to eat a $20m cap hit while trading brown for peanuts, glorious
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Mar 10, 2019 14:33
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AB I know it didn't look like Cohen was having fun, but I have it on authority that he was. Give us the dirt.
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Mar 10, 2019 14:34
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:The only thing left for Brown to do is fail to report to Steelers OTAs when the time comes, at which time they will start finding him into oblivion and start the suspension escalator until he either complies or retires. lol
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Mar 10, 2019 14:34
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Honestly surprised the Steelers didn’t get one of the Raiders 1st RD picks for him.
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Mar 10, 2019 14:53
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Hey now, there are a lot of good Fifth rounders out there. George Iloka. Marvin Jones I think. ... That kicker the Bengals cut was a fifth I think?
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Mar 10, 2019 14:54
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I'm very happy for Antonio
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Patiently waiting for the triumphant return of Warcrimes.Ehud posted:I’m not surprised at the compensation the Steelers got for AB. That would actually be his former QB.
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Mar 10, 2019 15:05
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Eifert Posting posted:Hey now, there are a lot of good Fifth rounders out there. George Iloka. Marvin Jones I think. Why are we pretending they didn’t get a 3rd as well? Edit lol whoops didn’t even notice. Pretending kinda the expectation at this point.
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A dog and his man posted:Honestly surprised the Steelers didn’t get one of the Raiders 1st RD picks for him. It's hilarious how much AB hosed the Steelers (while also helping out whatever team he was actually gonna get traded to). Good for him I wouldn't want to work with Roethlisberger either
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