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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
GF didn't feel like having sex after brunch this afternoon and that's how things started to go downhill with my ex-fiancee so after I dropped her off I went home and had a goddamn meltdown.

I called her after I calmed down and we talked a little bit about it and she reassured me but it's scary how an old trauma can cause me to go from "happy afternoon" to "self-hating disaster" inside of an hour.

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Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Ayin posted:

Extremely yes, but not for the reasons you have... I get a near-panic response from getting attacked in first-person games, which is incredibly stupid. And really lovely because Doom and Unreal are two of my favorite games. :negative:

doom 2016 was one of the first games in a while that i had to take a break every 30 minutes or so

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Poniard posted:

doom 2016 was one of the first games in a while that i had to take a break every 30 minutes or so

right around the time I opened a door and a torso plopped down immediately is when I peaced out for a week

Afterwards I went through the fusion laser sequence which is another NOPE NOT GOING IN THERE moment

it's silly now because gameplay mechanics wise it's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary but they do such a good job with atmospheric tension

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
You ever tried Minecraft? That is a surprisingly startling game. As non-immersive as the graphics are, the gameplay surprisingly very immersive. Long moments of calm with chill spa music as you dig out tunnels into shapes or slowly peek around each corner, but every so often a creeper shows up and wrecks your poo poo by loudly blowing up you and what you're making, sometimes by sneaking up behind you and hissing. You can permanently lose your whole inventory so the stakes are high but the game can otherwise lull you into a false sense of security. It's the only game I've ever played that's actually made me scream out loud by startling me so bad. Besides that, the tension of being surrounded by monsters while you work can be pretty cool when contrasted against the chill ambiance of digging around for stuff.

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



high octane games are really intense activities even though youre sitting in a chair

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Jollity Farm posted:

I have also been struck by how familiar the description of Avoidant Personality Disorder seemed when I first read about it. I have mentioned it to a doctor, but they said that there's nowhere in Devon that specialises in personality disorders (in case you were wondering where we are with the NHS and mental health - someone I know has said her daughter had to go to London for treatment, though I think that was a different condition, but I didn't want to be nosy). Though some people think AvPD and severe social anxiety are the same thing, and I have been diagnosed with the latter by Proper Doctors (also "some autistic traits" and "mild schizoid traits" according to one doctor several years ago) so I may or may not be one of those self-diagnosed weirdos people make fun of, depending on who you ask. Even the DWP doesn't think I'm fit for work, though, so there's clearly something there that other people can see.

Not to downplay your condition, whatever it may be, but are you familiar with psychology student syndrome? When I took a class in psychology I recognized almost every diagnosis as being applicable to me. That’s because they all exist on a spectrum and we are all somewhere along each spectrum. I think of myself as kind of aspy and schizoid as well, but psychologists don’t agree with me. We are all goons and thus certified as weirdos no matter what, but it’s importamt to talk to experts about this sort of stuff. They are experts for a reason and they have a much broader range of comparison than you do when looking at yourself. Worst case scenario of discussing thiswith am expert is what? That you are everything you already suspect? That you’re wrong and actually not psychologically damaged as you thought?

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

https://twitter.com/SarahCAndersen/status/1088096881086005249

my gaming issues are like having to be in a certain focused mood to play certain games and i cant/won't play them outside of that mood. I'll launch them and then close out of them after they load because i decided that i didnt feel right to play

its annoying

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

twoday posted:

Not to downplay your condition, whatever it may be, but are you familiar with psychology student syndrome? When I took a class in psychology I recognized almost every diagnosis as being applicable to me. That’s because they all exist on a spectrum and we are all somewhere along each spectrum. I think of myself as kind of aspy and schizoid as well, but psychologists don’t agree with me. We are all goons and thus certified as weirdos no matter what, but it’s importamt to talk to experts about this sort of stuff. They are experts for a reason and they have a much broader range of comparison than you do when looking at yourself. Worst case scenario of discussing thiswith am expert is what? That you are everything you already suspect? That you’re wrong and actually not psychologically damaged as you thought?

I already said that I had been diagnosed (with severe anxiety and depression) by doctors, just that I haven't been formally diagnosed with AvPD. This is why I don't talk to people, I'm incredibly bad at making myself understood. I'm even worse in person - I have a very quiet voice and often a nervous stammer. Plus I have my fear of social situations. I have tried to become a normal person, tried for years and years, saw counsellors, still take medication. But I'm still a piece of poo poo.

Ayin
Jan 6, 2010

Have a great day.

Poniard posted:

doom 2016 was one of the first games in a while that i had to take a break every 30 minutes or so
Unfortunately I'm talking about 90's Doom :negative:

twoday posted:

Worst case scenario of discussing thiswith am expert is what? That you are everything you already suspect? That you’re wrong and actually not psychologically damaged as you thought?
More like "I saw a Bad Doc and now I have "hypochondriac" on my record and no one will take me seriously"
(did not happen to me, luckily, but my former gp would railroad me because she had no idea how to talk to someone with Issues)

e: also, getting an appointment with a specialist is a lot of work for someone who has serious brain problems, whether they're "made up" or not

e2: experts are still humans and can gently caress up, and as a layman it's very hard to know if your unhelpful experience was the result of a fuckup or not
"diagnostic gatekeeping" is a real and bad thing

Ayin has issued a correction as of 07:17 on Mar 11, 2019

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Poniard posted:

doom 2016 was one of the first games in a while that i had to take a break every 30 minutes or so

that was, weirdly, the first game I 100% beat in a long, long time. i get game anxiety sometimes but it's usually decision based. if i know a game has 5000 plot lines that I can gently caress up on I don't wanna play it but something about the hyperkinetic feel of that game where the only wrong decision is to stay still was very compelling to me.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Jollity Farm posted:

I already said that I had been diagnosed (with severe anxiety and depression) by doctors, just that I haven't been formally diagnosed with AvPD. This is why I don't talk to people, I'm incredibly bad at making myself understood. I'm even worse in person - I have a very quiet voice and often a nervous stammer. Plus I have my fear of social situations. I have tried to become a normal person, tried for years and years, saw counsellors, still take medication. But I'm still a piece of poo poo.

Have you considered a DBT course? it was originally designed for bpd, so obtaining the patients trust is the very first thing they’re supposed to do.

it’s a Herculean effort to get out of the house and go to it, definitely, but a functional life may be on the other side :)

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



dick and ball torture

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

Poniard posted:

dick and ball torture

dave and busters therapy

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
i found dbt really helpful and if you absolutely can't find a practicing group (it should be a group) the skills worksheets are all available online along with tons of videos about the skills (radical acceptance, wise mind etc)

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

https://twitter.com/zylalovesyou/status/1105145782628503553

want me to scan this into a pdf for yall? itll take a while its huge, like 300 pages

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
just like the best 10 pages are fine, ty


;)

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Poniard posted:

dick and ball torture

say what you want but it’s done wonders for me

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Poniard posted:

dick and ball torture

Dragon Ball T

redsniper
Feb 15, 2012

Zyla posted:

want me to scan this into a pdf for yall? itll take a while its huge, like 300 pages

Soooo, I found PDFs both of that book and a DBT workbook. I guess they're technically :filez: but if I could link them or upload them that would save you the trouble of scanning all that at least.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Jollity Farm posted:

I have tried to become a normal person, tried for years and years, saw counsellors, still take medication. But I'm still a piece of poo poo.

same

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

I will try to find out more about DBT online later. I'm glad that other people have had good experiences with it, that makes me feel a tiny bit more hopeful. I'm sorry I was in a bad mood earlier - it wasn't a personal insult.

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





I'm making in-person friends, blinding them to my uncouthness with my culinary science :unsmith:

homemade key lime pie is the best path to the heart of my friend's girlfriend/partner

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





Jollity Farm posted:

I already said that I had been diagnosed (with severe anxiety and depression) by doctors, just that I haven't been formally diagnosed with AvPD. This is why I don't talk to people, I'm incredibly bad at making myself understood. I'm even worse in person - I have a very quiet voice and often a nervous stammer. Plus I have my fear of social situations. I have tried to become a normal person, tried for years and years, saw counsellors, still take medication. But I'm still a piece of poo poo.

fwiw if you're worried about your last few posts being unclear, they weren't, and i think i understood exactly what you meant me to understand

always easier to take a breath and throw in a clause when writing than in person, ofc; not trying to argue against your anxiety

Poniard posted:

dick and ball torture

the wonderfully affirming feeling of knowing i am not alone in reading that as that

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





sry for the multiposts I'm just reading some backlog

Mackers posted:

And it has been literally months since I quit escitalopram and I'm still getting zaps.

I should probably go back on meds huh.

yes

poo poo man

i didn't know the zaps lasted that long. i had to deal with it for going on two weeks

i described it as my sensation of consciousness retracting to a single point in my head before rapidly expanding out again painfully in order to repeat the cycle

does that fit? jw if we all get similar zaps idk

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

redsniper posted:

Soooo, I found PDFs both of that book and a DBT workbook. I guess they're technically :filez: but if I could link them or upload them that would save you the trouble of scanning all that at least.

cool! lets share em up! and yeah that was gonna be an annoying scan but id do it for my goonies

smokyprogg
Apr 9, 2008

BROKEN DOWN!
MISSION FAILED
Meds are largely a scam. If they work for you, good job, but placebo is a hell of a drug too.

DBT owns and is good and everyone should try it.

That is my contribution to thread.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

smokyprogg posted:

Meds are largely a scam.

Don’t do this. It’s in the OP.

quote:


i expect a certain amount of shitposting and general cspam dumbassery and would be disappointed if we didn't get it. however please don't:

* refer to psychology as a "sham" science
* tell people all meds are terrible or to stop taking them (or not bother to start)
* make fun of anyone's mental illness (especially me you shitheads)
* post lol nothing matters and don't bother trying and bullshit like that
* generally be a dick towards anyone genuinely hurting and in need of help

Chokes McGee has issued a correction as of 00:19 on Mar 12, 2019

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





awesome

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





let's pretend for a sec and grant that medicine only works by dint of the placebo effect:

does that magically undo their therapeutic value?

no it doesn't! and anyone who actually knows anything about the bonkersness of the placebo effect would understand this and would therefore not bother pinching off that post

turd in my singlet
Jul 5, 2008

DO ALL DA WORK

WIT YA NECK

*heavy metal music playing*
Nap Ghost
what is the actual evidence on meds being placebo anyways?

edit: being/not being

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

turd in my singlet posted:

what is the actual evidence on meds being placebo anyways?

edit: being/not being

several decades of psychiatric science and pharmaceutical studies

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





afaik it only rests on the line in studies that a disingenuous person could summarize as "only 20% more people in the experimental group reported positive results than did the placebo group, therefore!!!!!!"

like am i myself really so special and unique that I'm the only one for whom drugs actually work? probably not, so

(or is my placebo drive so finicky that it only accepts certain compounds but freaks the gently caress out in response to others? does my brain know to "pretend" to be placated on the third attempted medicine, but for fun it'll have majorly bad reactions to the first two? and, again, even if it is literally all the brain just deciding to pretend to be treated ..... how is that distinguishable from treatment?)

juche avocado has issued a correction as of 00:36 on Mar 12, 2019

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
I want to make it clear that everyone is welcome to post here, but in return I ask you to please read the OP and follow it to prevent dangerous things from happening to others.

okay let’s cancel this conversation now before I have to lock the thread for a bit to air out.

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





sry I'm currently experiencing the caffeine placebo effect

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

juche avocado posted:

sry I'm currently experiencing the caffeine placebo effect

caffeine is great it dOEsn’t trIggEr mY bIpOlAr At All!!!!!

turd in my singlet
Jul 5, 2008

DO ALL DA WORK

WIT YA NECK

*heavy metal music playing*
Nap Ghost
what if i actually want to know the research on mental health drugs and was hoping for references?

bebop esq
Apr 17, 2006

hi boys

Chokes McGee posted:

caffeine is great it dOEsn’t trIggEr mY bIpOlAr At All!!!!!

:same:

Only somewhat large amounts of caffeine seem to matter for me though.

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





idk what if Google instead of asking a bunch of neuroatypicals to defend the therapy/ies that work for them

i get that it's a good-faith curioisity but yk would you go into a minority church and announce that you're "actually just wondering" about the scholarly papers on whether racism exists still or not

juche avocado
Dec 23, 2009





pre-op bebop posted:

:same:

Only somewhat large amounts of caffeine seem to matter for me though.

ah, the classic volumetric placebo,

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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

juche avocado posted:

ah, the classic volumetric placebo,

please drop it :(

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