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Lone Goat posted:Dominaria counts as Rath, and we've had a set called New Phyrexia so uhhhhhh meant old Phyrexia
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Lone Goat posted:People have been hooting about going back to Lorwyn and Kamigawa for a long time, and it's not we haven't already been back to it half those planes you listed. I have no doubt a small but dedicated group of people have been loudly hooting about Lorwyn and Kamigawa for years. There's probably dedicated crystal pepsi fans hooting about when we can finally bring it back. I'm shocked we haven't gone back to Alara and Mirrodin given how popular they are, at least with Tarkir it was much more recent and I think the sets after khans were much less of a hit, kind of like Theros. Also a huge portion of magic took place on Dominaria which is why a lot of the old settings like Ulgrotha, Mercadia and Rabiah are sort of weird outliers.
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I want to go back to Mirrodin, but it has been destroyed  I don’t care about going back to the Grimdark place it has been transformed into.
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Hellsau posted:Lorwyn block came out when the economy was experiencing a little bit of fuckery. I don't buy this at all, it was the same economic period Alara and Zendikar were super successful in. Kamigawa being hurt by Mirrodin might be true, I think Kaladesh might have hurt the sets after it immensely, but it was more than just a gameplay failure as I understand it, people genuinely didn't like the design on top of it, despite that being a large part of what people who want it back are so crazy about.
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Hellsau posted:Kamigawa performed poorly probably because Affinity loving killed standard attendance (local play in my area basically didn't recover for a year) and Kamigawa had a bunch of wonky useless stuff and low-powered cards compared to Mirrodin and Darksteel. That card would still see a shitload of play in draft, Chillbringer was just fine
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I don't care where the new set is based, I just want Seb to draw all the art.
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Lone Goat posted:Dominaria counts as Rath, and we've had a set called New Phyrexia so uhhhhhh New Phyrexia was 7 years ago
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Marketing New Brain posted:I have no doubt a small but dedicated group of people have been loudly hooting about Lorwyn and Kamigawa for years. There's probably dedicated crystal pepsi fans hooting about when we can finally bring it back. crystal pepsi came back two years ago
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Tainen posted:
We've gotten all of these except Water World, WestWorld, Prison World, Sky World, Underground World, Noir World, Roman World, and Camelot World. I guess you could fudge it and say Serra's Realm was Sky. Honestly any of those would be better than a Norse plane, the Viking stuff has already been done to death and it's boring as hell.
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This is some good trolling https://twitter.com/stillcary/status/1105135263393681410?s=21
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Tainen posted:This is some good trolling
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He literally gets X eyes. Amazing way to carry the mood of a major character death.
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That is legitimately better than the real Apocalypse novel, which is the worst book I have ever read. It is bad even by the standards of "a novelised version of a set of trading cards."
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:We've gotten all of these except Water World, WestWorld, Prison World, Sky World, Underground World, Noir World, Roman World, and Camelot World. I guess you could fudge it and say Serra's Realm was Sky. Honestly any of those would be better than a Norse plane, the Viking stuff has already been done to death and it's boring as hell. Roman world is literally the exact same thing as Greek world and nothing you can tell me will convince me otherwise. Norse already had some influence on Ice Age but probably not all that much.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:We've gotten all of these except Water World, WestWorld, Prison World, Sky World, Underground World, Noir World, Roman World, and Camelot World. I guess you could fudge it and say Serra's Realm was Sky. Honestly any of those would be better than a Norse plane, the Viking stuff has already been done to death and it's boring as hell. I'd say that Innistrad was pretty much the noir world in SoI, what with Investigate and Jace in a trench coat walking around looking at things. Dominaria had a whole knights in shining armor subtheme. Wasn't there an underground setting in one of the GDS? e: Lone Goat posted:Noir was the mystery part of Shadows over Innistrad, and Roman world is literally the exact same thing as Greek world and nothing you can tell me will convince me otherwise. Romans would be quite different aesthetically, which is arguably the most important thing for a Magic set. Also the Romans and Greeks were very different in a million ways, even in the pop culture view that a set would draw on. You'd have less monsters and more gladiators. Tulul fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 11, 2019 |
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Tulul posted:Romans would be quite different aesthetically, which is arguably the most important thing for a Magic set. Also the Romans and Greeks were very different in a million ways, even in the pop culture view that a set would draw on. You'd have less monsters and more gladiators. olympics/gladiators, exact same thing
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How do you do a Magic "noir" set? e:guess SoI makes sense
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Framboise posted:He literally gets X eyes. Amazing way to carry the mood of a major character death. I'm someone who has never read any MTG novelizations/stories, so I may be out of my element. Is it correct for me to immediately think this is fake, or is the level of writing comparable in the real thing?
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TheMaestroso posted:I'm someone who has never read any MTG novelizations/stories, so I may be out of my element. Is it correct for me to immediately think this is fake, or is the level of writing comparable in the real thing? Cary edited the text to make it look like it pointed to the unknown WAR Planeswalker being Urza.
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Rinkles posted:How do you do a Magic "noir" set? Guilds of Ravnica was noirish    
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lol i didn't realize notion rain had matrix rain in its art
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TheMaestroso posted:I'm someone who has never read any MTG novelizations/stories, so I may be out of my element. Is it correct for me to immediately think this is fake, or is the level of writing comparable in the real thing? It's extremely fake
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rkajdi posted:Are limited and raft that much of the community? I mean, the commander players at the local shop are kind of the dumb kids playing super slow magic, but apparently commander sells a poo poo ton of cards despite modern being the popular format. I'd guess limited moves packs, which is okay for shops even if they miss all the real money of singles w/r/t it. FNM draft routinely gets two pods at my local store, Modern usually gets about 8 people, and I don’t think they’ve fired a sanctioned FNM standard event in over a year.
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Rinkles posted:lol i didn't realize notion rain had
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flatluigi posted:It's extremely fake you can tell because it's bad in a fun, self-aware way
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vegetables posted:That is legitimately better than the real Apocalypse novel, which is the worst book I have ever read. It is bad even by the standards of "a novelised version of a set of trading cards." I have not read the apocalypse novel but I have a hard time believing it is worse than the  that is Scourge
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Apparently The Thran and then the Urza books (Brother's War/Planeswalker/Timestreams/Bloodlines) were alright, but that might just be compared to the rest of the Magic books
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Guilds of Ravnica was noirish Deadly Visit is another card with a heavy noir theme, although looking at these nothing can really top Thought Erasure with the shadows of the blinds being as noir as you can get. *pushes up glasses* excuse me, but Notion Rain is clearly Neo-Noir 
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as a 15 y/o i really enjoyed the brothers war books but im also an idiot hth
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MikeCrotch posted:Apparently The Thran and then the Urza books (Brother's War/Planeswalker/Timestreams/Bloodlines) were alright, but that might just be compared to the rest of the Magic books It’s this. None of the MtG novels are good enough to be worth reading on their own merits. The Thran and Brother’s War are alright if you care about the lore, though. I can’t really remember the other Urza books.
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flatluigi posted:imo the mtg books aren't great but they're about the level of basically any licensed novels They very wildly between solid licensed pulp and hilariously bad.
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vegetables posted:That is legitimately better than the real Apocalypse novel, which is the worst book I have ever read. It is bad even by the standards of "a novelised version of a set of trading cards." Oh so you never read Scourge then
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ShadeofBlue posted:It’s this. None of the MtG novels are good enough to be worth reading on their own merits. The Thran and Brother’s War are alright if you care about the lore, though. I can’t really remember the other Urza books. The OG Ravnica trilogy was all right if for no other reason than it did some decent world-building using a story that wasn't about a Planswalker but rather a Boros beat cop.
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I unironically really liked The Gathering Dark and still have a copy.
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since people are posting about kamigawa i have to remind everyone of the most powerful card ever printed, WAXMANE BAKU
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The OG ravnica book was pretty OK, it was about a 90-something boros beat cop, just a week away from retirement teaming up with a Golgari
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Hellsau posted:Kamigawa performed poorly probably because Affinity loving killed standard attendance (local play in my area basically didn't recover for a year) and Kamigawa had a bunch of wonky useless stuff and low-powered cards compared to Mirrodin and Darksteel. My problem with Kamigawa was loving Jitte. That one card overshadowed every other part of the set, which was already standing in Mirrodin's very long very dark shadow. That was pretty much it. It wasn't a great limited set and it wasn't a great constructed set and the flavor was unexpected for the era (I think it would go over a hell of a lot better now - back then expectations for something Japanese flavored were stupidly narrow). But like, Magic is still suffering from the long shadow cast by Mirrodin to this very day so I can't blame the set for that at all. e: We are very lucky that Wizards pulled out Ravnica and then Time Spiral after Mirrodin and Kamigawa or the game might not be here today. In a vacuum Kamigawa might have just been remembered as a below average set like, say, Theros, but it existed in context of one of the most controversial sets of all time and two of the best sets of all time. TheDemon fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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