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Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Nick No Boles.

On this day in 1915, the Battle of Neuve Chapelle occurred. The first deliberately planned offensive in World War 1. It was a success, but with heavy losses, and with no real end results.

John Charteris had this to say about it:

quote:

"... England will have to accustom herself to far greater losses than those of Neuve Chapelle before we finally crush the German army."

Communist Bear fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Mar 12, 2019

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

The gloves are off

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

I just think the reflex reaction for everyone to shout "actually don't blame us" is p. frustrating when solid results turned in elsewhere are held as being equally as to blame as the failure of the campaign within England.

If the Remain campaign could have returned number as well as it did in Scotland we'd have been laughing.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

And I say that as someone who did Remain campaigning in NI and was bitterly frustrated with our lacklustre turnouts in strong remain constituencies and failure to mobilise the vote.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Is it wrong of me to be hoping for full on no deal turbofucking at this point? I don't think it would be good for me. Im just ready for the end.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Or, you know, if the leave campaign could have not lied, cheated, denigrated experts, and generally been colossal assholes, we would probably not be leaving in the first place.

Or if the Tories hadn't gambled the entire country's future in a political game/leadership squabble, we wouldn't have even been asked.

blaming ANYONE in the general public for the result is entirely missing the point. This is a Tory politician problem, from beginning to eternal and frustrating middle.

communism bitch posted:

Is it wrong of me to be hoping for full on no deal turbofucking at this point? I don't think it would be good for me. Im just ready for the end.

I'd prefer nuking, to be honest, it'll be less drawn out, less painful, and the nuclear winter might cool down the planet enough for the planet to be inherited by mammals rather than insects or bacteria.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
UKMT April 2019 - I'm nude, lubed, angry, and ready for the end

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

communism bitch posted:

Is it wrong of me to be hoping for full on no deal turbofucking at this point? I don't think it would be good for me. Im just ready for the end.

Are you talking about brexit or are you just hankering for a good pegging?

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Also if the EU wasn't poo poo then maybe people would be a bit more enthusiastic about staying in it.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Thread status: horny on main.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

namesake posted:

Also if the EU wasn't poo poo then maybe people would be a bit more enthusiastic about staying in it.

Most people didn't even know the consequences of leaving/were so ill-informed they might as well have known nothing

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

namesake posted:

Also if the EU wasn't poo poo then maybe people would be a bit more enthusiastic about staying in it.

The EU could have been a socialist utopia and people would still have believed it was a hellscape because the papers have been lying to them pretty much since its inception.

Heck, if it were a socialist utopia they would be MORE likely to believe it was a hellscape, not less.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

communism bitch posted:

Is it wrong of me to be hoping for full on no deal turbofucking at this point? I don't think it would be good for me. Im just ready for the end.

Given that it will kill posters in this thread, yes, it is wrong.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

communism bitch posted:

Is it wrong of me to be hoping for full on no deal turbofucking at this point? I don't think it would be good for me. Im just ready for the end.

Now you've cursed us to Mays deal passing and two more years of confused brexiting

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

thespaceinvader posted:

The EU could have been a socialist utopia and people would still have believed it was a hellscape because the papers have been lying to them pretty much since its inception.

Heck, if it were a socialist utopia they would be MORE likely to believe it was a hellscape, not less.

Ash Crimson posted:

Most people didn't even know the consequences of leaving/were so ill-informed they might as well have known nothing

It was a lot easier to believe the EU was ruining the UK because they were definitely ruining Greece. That was a major public test of internal EU relations and they hosed it completely.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
Completely love this and may make a point of firing it at every oval office who declares themselves to be Hufflepuff (why the gently caress is that in my phone's dictionary?) or whatever in political discussion. Instead of telling them to read other books, ideally Dune.

https://twitter.com/GoodWitchLeigh/status/1105307775754592256?s=19

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


communism bitch posted:

Is it wrong of me to be hoping for full on no deal turbofucking at this point? I don't think it would be good for me. Im just ready for the end.

Dunno. I can't say I'm hoping for it, but I'm kind of relaxed about it. Don't have any faith in our politicians, don't think there's much regular people can do, it's going to happen, I've done nothing to prepare for it, I can't afford to gently caress off to a less basketcase place, so why worry?

Don't think my SSRIs should have a shortage post Brexit but probably a couple years later we see trade deals with the Yanks that lead to the NHS being dismantled and I can no longer afford them and that'll be fun. If things start to kick off I might get motivated but until then it's just sort of a shrug at the inevitable horror of it all.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


I think there was some detail mentioned here about several devices found last week, in london and Glasgow.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ira-claims-responsibility-for-london-and-glasgow-letterbombs-a4089166.html


The IRA are claiming responsibility for sending our 5 devices matching the description (which apparently matches old IRA methodology too), when only 4 have been found.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

What time is this vote?

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.
So odds on that being the IRA equivalent of releasing numbered pigs into the halls and missing out a number?

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Bape Culture posted:

What time is this vote?

Bercow's whim. My money's on it being late tonight.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006
Codpiece making a statement at 12.30

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Verizian posted:

So odds on that being the IRA equivalent of releasing numbered pigs into the halls and missing out a number?

I had the same thought but I became too angry to vocalise it because the loving IRA is sending letterbombs again.

But Brexit is still a GREAT loving IDEA FOR SURE

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmbo

https://twitter.com/OwenSmith_MP/status/1105413626846986240

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Leavers are never going to be happy except with no deal btw

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1105425210394718208

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006
Well they've only had 12 hours to print it all off and wave it around as a prop during the debate!

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i really have no idea how this omnishambles of a process hasn't led to outright uproar

the prime minister keeps trying to blatantly subvert representative democracy by means of weird parlour tricks and short notices, you'd think there would be at least a little outrage in the broadsheets

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


mehall posted:

I think there was some detail mentioned here about several devices found last week, in london and Glasgow.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ira-claims-responsibility-for-london-and-glasgow-letterbombs-a4089166.html


The IRA are claiming responsibility for sending our 5 devices matching the description (which apparently matches old IRA methodology too), when only 4 have been found.

It sure is annoying that every IRA splinter group claims to just be 'The IRA', because there's rakes of groups it could be but guaranteed some gammon blames Martin McGuinness. Yes, I know he's dead.

Anyway, it sure is cool that people are acting like this is a shocking renewal when dissident Republican groups have been active in Northern Ireland to some extent for years, if not ever since the Good Friday Agreement. Our total ignorance of the goings on in part of this country is appalling.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Jose posted:

Leavers are never going to be happy except with no deal btw

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1105425210394718208

Honestly, that question doesn't go far enough, because there are a whole bunch of people who were convinced we could get some kind of pie-in-the-sky impossible sweetheart deal. The 'no it doesn't' option needs to have 'too soft' vs 'too hard' or some more detailed equivalent to be informative.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
Bit windy out

Also poo poo



Bit poo poo and windy, to sum up

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1105423352733282304

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

forkboy84 posted:

It sure is annoying that every IRA splinter group claims to just be 'The IRA', because there's rakes of groups it could be but guaranteed some gammon blames Martin McGuinness. Yes, I know he's dead.

Anyway, it sure is cool that people are acting like this is a shocking renewal when dissident Republican groups have been active in Northern Ireland to some extent for years, if not ever since the Good Friday Agreement. Our total ignorance of the goings on in part of this country is appalling.

It's the first time in a long time they have operated outside NI, to the best of my knowledge, which is indeed a shocking renewal.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
This has gone down badly

https://twitter.com/rosskempsell/status/1105422600711356416

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


I would be entirely ready to believe that the second edition is half the thickness because this time they remembered to switch the printer to double sided mode.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

This has made Brexit worthwhile

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009
I enjoyed this
https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1105423352733282304
EDIT: Beaten like the Brexit vote today
\/\/ When does Kate Hoey not sound angry and unconvincing?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1105426594968031233
https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1105427257991065601

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

mehall posted:

I think there was some detail mentioned here about several devices found last week, in london and Glasgow.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ira-claims-responsibility-for-london-and-glasgow-letterbombs-a4089166.html


The IRA are claiming responsibility for sending our 5 devices matching the description (which apparently matches old IRA methodology too), when only 4 have been found.

Which loving IRA though? Because the devices seem to have come from the IRA Kindergarten Division.

Hobo
Dec 12, 2007

Forum bum
Interesting difference in summaries:

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Which loving IRA though? Because the devices seem to have come from the IRA Kindergarten Division.

The suggestion I've seen is New IRA, which used to be the Real IRA, who did the 98 Omagh bombing.

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