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turd in my singlet posted:what if i actually want to know the research on mental health drugs and was hoping for references? psychology today has articles on literally everything. as lame as it sounds Wikipedia’s pharmaceutical pages are very good, especially for psych meds. Click around on references for incomprehensible science papers!
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Mar 12, 2019 00:50
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A dvd INTO THE SLOT. IT’S The Big Lebowski AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, Dude. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN gently caress it SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME nihilist BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED LA's MOST DANGEROUS Sheriff. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng
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Mar 12, 2019 00:53
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got any sevens posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A dvd INTO THE SLOT. IT’S The Big Lebowski AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, Dude. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN gently caress it SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME nihilist BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED LA's MOST DANGEROUS Sheriff. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng 
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Mar 12, 2019 00:58
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fine I'll stop making fun of the bad driveby post and bad driveby thesis making fun of things is fun, but i will stop experiencing this "fun" for you, chokes for u
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Mar 12, 2019 00:59
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fun side note falling into a circle of friends made up of like 25% psych grad students ownnnnnnssssssssssssssss they understand me also they like my cooking o i already made this post
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Mar 12, 2019 01:00
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juche avocado posted:fine I'll stop making fun of the bad driveby post and bad driveby thesis fun is strictly prohibited 
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Mar 12, 2019 01:05
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i wanna get a tattoo on my abdomen: "THESE ABS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ESCITALOPRAM" & maybe a tramp stamp: "nice butt? more like 'wellBUTTrin' hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!"
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Mar 12, 2019 01:07
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juche avocado posted:i wanna get a tattoo on my abdomen: please don’t doxx my prescriptions/tattoos
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Mar 12, 2019 01:10
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wheres the pdf of the thing I want it
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Mar 12, 2019 01:26
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haha this was a long con for filez reports enjoy your bans suckers!!!
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Mar 12, 2019 01:31
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the ultimate betrayal
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Mar 12, 2019 01:38
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:the ultimate betrayal womp womp i dunno where that person hosed off to but ill spend some time tomorrow looking for them and maybe a fairy will visit your inbox
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Mar 12, 2019 04:23
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turd in my singlet posted:what is the actual evidence on meds being placebo anyways? With SSRIs in particular you see improvement for after a few weeks that then drops off after a couple months. Multidisciplinary treatment is far and away the most effective. Each additional concurrent therapy drastically increases the effect of the other ones. The best way to look at antidepressant therapy is as a crutch (in a good way) to allow the person to develop coping strategies and enact long term change that will cement those skills. There's a lot of interesting examples which show that things like simply taking a mood questionnaire every day will significantly improve people's depression, to the point where you have to control for this in studies with placebo groups because simply taking the mood questionnaire will make them feel better. On that note there's an app called emoods that is excellent for tracking your mood and that kind of thing. I've found it very helpful but if you don't wanna use an app there's lots of simple pdf worksheets etc out there that are just as useful and have statistically significant effect in improving depression and anxiety.
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Mar 12, 2019 05:36
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:wheres the pdf of the thing I want it Here's the guidebook for running a group and the workbook with worksheets Here's some of the videos that Linehan made for the course there's some other useful books on trauma, addiction, anxiety and adhd in here as well Moist von Lipwig has issued a correction as of 05:57 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Mar 12, 2019 05:54
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Moist von Lipwig posted:With SSRIs in particular you see improvement for after a few weeks that then drops off after a couple months. Multidisciplinary treatment is far and away the most effective. Each additional concurrent therapy drastically increases the effect of the other ones. The best way to look at antidepressant therapy is as a crutch (in a good way) to allow the person to develop coping strategies and enact long term change that will cement those skills. thanks, this is the kind of thing i'm looking for not "go to wikipedia" lol sources?
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Mar 12, 2019 06:25
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turd in my singlet posted:thanks, this is the kind of thing i'm looking for want specific answers, ask specific questions 
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Mar 12, 2019 06:44
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lol ok guy sorry for offending you by pointing out how you could be read as being insensitive
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Mar 12, 2019 07:12
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for my next trick im gonna crash into the lf thread and demand that i have communism's ultimate morality proved to me (I'm just asking questions!)
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Mar 12, 2019 07:16
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hey mental health thread i always find this genre of post kinda annoying and preachy but i'm annoying and preachy so i'll make it anyway: it can get better! a couple of months ago i checked into inpatient psychiatric care. lowest point of my mental health thus far; i felt utterly hopeless, like i was unfixable, worried about suicide, etc etc... complete  mindset. by chance, i stumbled into a doctor who was actually familiar with my symptoms. A changed diagnosis, slightly modified drug regimen, and a month and a half of intensive outpatient therapy later, i'm doing much, much better. like i'm functional, feeling some actual life satisfaction, and having way more interesting conversations with the octopus that lives in my brain.so yeah. just like, if you're in an absolutely awful, lovely place, where the is all there is; reach out for help. you can find ways to live with that are way less awful than sitting around worrying about how all the time.of course, i'm lucky enough to have decent insurance and a very strong support network, and i was able to attend a very good program that specializes in OCD (which is my variety of fun brain). I can't promise that you'll have as good an experience as I had. but like, it's not hopeless. you can find something. if , why not sit through a couple boring sessions of therapy, right?ok also, another thing: you might have OCD! it's quite common (2-4% of the population) but often misdiagnosed because people don't understand the symptoms. it's not just "i keep my colored pencils in order and wash my hands a lot"... i keep running into people online who have textbook OCD symptoms and no idea what's going on. I personally was diagnosed with anxiety / depression, which turned out to actually be mostly OCD. so like, here's some info, maybe it'll help somebody. do you struggle with: - random intrusive thoughts and images that you find difficult to let go of? ("i could stab that person", "i looked at a kid so i'm a pedophile", "i don't want to kill myself but i might", graphic sexual or violent images showing up unbidden) - constant, debilitating worries about things nobody else seems to be worried about? ("i'm going to crash my car tomorrow", "my partner doesn't love me enough", "time does not actually exist") - very strong perfectionism / a need for things to be "just right", where "just right" is something only you understand? - strong moral or religious superstitions you spend a lot of time worrying about? (i didn't say enough hail maries so i'm going to hell, i bought something on amazon so i'm a bad socialist) - a need to perform specific tasks to help you abate these worries? (tapping things, humming a tune, re-checking something is locked) - a need to avoid any situation where these worries might come up? - a need to ask others for reassurance about things you're worried about? (are you sure we didn't leave the cat outside? are you sure i don't have herpes?) - fears about ever talking about any of these things to another person? all of these things can be OCD symptoms. of course everything is a spectrum -- everyone has some thoughts like these sometimes! It's a question of how much time they take up / distress they cause. if issues like these are causing you a lot of problems, you might have OCD, or a related disorder. depression or PTSD can cause similar symptoms sometimes, so it's important to find a mental health professional who can tell the difference. but yeah, anyway. if you do have OCD, the good news is, it's very treatable. for one thing, they're not going to throw you in jail just for talking about your worries. (that's a common thing people with intrusive thoughts worry about.) certain drugs have excellent effects for coping with these things. there's also kinds of therapy that are quite effective -- CBT and DBT are quite good for OCD. the other kind of therapy you'll want to do is Exposure Therapy. exposure therapy, is, honestly, the therapy from hell. basically, you do something that upsets your anxiety, and then you do nothing to ameliorate the anxiety. you just sit there, reading a novel about death, or arranging cups badly, or writing text and not being allowed to edit it; you sit there and you keep going. this sucks exactly as much as it sounds like, at least at first. I should know, i just got done with two months where i spent four hours a day doing it. but! over time, it gets less and less stressful; and you learn to recognize the OCD feelings/thoughts for what they are; just thoughts in your head, floating by, unable to actually harm you. it used to be i spent all my time avoiding OCD thoughts; nowadays i just say hi and keep doing whatever i was doing, or poke fun at them. (honestly i feel like everybody could use some exposure therapy. it's very possible to self-administer it, and it can be helpful in a lot of cases; although if you have certain issues like PTSD it can be dangerous to do on your own, so talk to a therapist first. but it's super fuckin helpful. learning the zen mindset is rad, even if it's a lot of work.) ok one other thing. if you don't have these symptoms, but you think someone you know might have them; maybe suggest they look into an OCD diagnosis, if you're in their confidence. not many people know the symptoms, so it's worth a prod. also; it's common for people around OCD sufferers to end up providing a lot of support for them: helping sufferers work around their anxieties, and reassuring sufferers about their worries. these responses are natural instincts to help someone who's hurting; unfortunately, they hurt OCD sufferers in the long run. reassurance in particular is basically a drug for people with OCD, complete with dependence, needing increasing doses for a high, and nasty withdrawal symptoms. so it might be helpful to get your person into therapy, and then work towards figuring out how to care for your person in a way that won't hurt them long turn. okay super long post over. feel free to ask me / yell at me about this stuff, i love to nerd out over it but it's not exactly a common topic of conversation
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Mar 12, 2019 08:32
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animist posted:hey mental health thread thanks for posting , you jackanape!!!  im glad you had some improvements!
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Mar 12, 2019 08:38
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turd in my singlet posted:thanks, this is the kind of thing i'm looking for i can put together something more thorough tomorrow, i've got a flight to catch in a bit but the citations on this paper are a good resource. Comparative benefits and harms of second-generation antidepressants for treating major depressive disorder: an updated meta-analysis and Randomized Trial of Behavioral Activation, Cognitive Therapy, and Antidepressant Medication in the Prevention of Relapse and Recurrence in Major Depression are notable iirc.
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Mar 12, 2019 09:17
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turd in my singlet posted:thanks, this is the kind of thing i'm looking for you're still a dickbag lmao you rollin into the thread going JUSTIFY PSYCHIATRY TO ME, FUCKOS you're not gonna get anything but an eye roll and a "gently caress off" with that kind of talk
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Mar 12, 2019 11:15
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animist posted:hey mental health thread sup good rear end poster, thanks for checking in 
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Mar 12, 2019 14:30
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Zyla posted:you're still a dickbag lmao I can understand why he’s irritable the poor man has a turd in his singlet it may not even be his we just don’t know
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Mar 12, 2019 14:39
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lmao woke up in a state I don't know how to describe and then I layed in bed for like 3 hours but went in to work super late anyway why did I do this
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Mar 12, 2019 14:55
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Zyla posted:you're still a dickbag lmao I personally think, and a lot of mental health professionals I know think this way too (see the "ex patient movement" etc) that people taking an active, open yet skeptical (in the good kind of skeptical) interest in their own mental health is generally a good thing.
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Mar 12, 2019 15:08
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Moist von Lipwig posted:I personally think, and a lot of mental health professionals I know think this way too (see the "ex patient movement" etc) that people taking an active, open yet skeptical (in the good kind of skeptical) interest in their own mental health is generally a good thing. I mean it's good to want info and have things explained to you buuuuut that right after someone claiming meds are just placebos and one can see why the thread's getting a little testy I'm trying to steer this semi truck as hard as I can but I think it's jackknifing at this point 
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Mar 12, 2019 15:22
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Poniard posted:lmao woke up in a state I don't know how to describe and then I layed in bed for like 3 hours but went in to work super late anyway why did I do this assuming it’s not job stress (and keep in mind not liking your job IS job stress) it might be depression or at least dysthymia depression doesn’t necessarily mean sadbrains 24/7 sometimes it’s just massive exhaustion and not wanting to do anything
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Mar 12, 2019 15:50
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Chokes McGee posted:I mean it's good to want info and have things explained to you buuuuut that right after someone claiming meds are just placebos and one can see why the thread's getting a little testy You're doing good chokes!! It was just one lovely post in a thread full of good posters. Stuff like that happens 
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Mar 12, 2019 15:58
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cool dance moves posted:You're doing good chokes!! It was just one lovely post in a thread full of good posters. Stuff like that happens 
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Mar 12, 2019 16:00
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getting a cat is a good way to combat depression, ime, for two reasons. for one, they're low maintenance, as far as pets go. also, they'll curl up with you when youre bummed and it feels good and cosy.
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Mar 12, 2019 16:17
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I wanted a cat but I feel like I would have to furnish the living area properly so the cat would have somewhere to hang out other than my room
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Mar 12, 2019 16:18
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Poniard posted:lmao woke up in a state I don't know how to describe and then I layed in bed for like 3 hours but went in to work super late anyway why did I do this was it real lovely, like ohio or florida? or just a medium state, like montana or oregon? 
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Mar 12, 2019 16:19
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Poniard posted:I wanted a cat but I feel like I would have to furnish the living area properly so the cat would have somewhere to hang out other than my room they don’t care I assure you. the only time it gets uncomfortable for them is sharing a small space with other cats and maybe not even then if you have two cats that are buddies. we have two cats that are very clearly an old married couple, they cuddle up together all the time and hold paws
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Mar 12, 2019 16:29
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any tips to deal with a job you hate? i am actively looking for another (hopefully permanent) job, but my current job so loving boring and repetitive. it takes so much mental effort to not get and leave. this gonna sound pathetic, but the only thing that's giving me some joy lately is breath of the wild. i just get to escape to a world where i'm a strong, independent person who travels a lot and meets new people. i know these seem like simple things to get excited about, but i just feel so stuck in an unfulfilling life that i can't help but project myself unto this little elf dude.
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Mar 12, 2019 17:05
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Here's the guidebook for running a group and the workbook with worksheets Well, sorry for being slow. That's the same Skills Training Manual I found. Here's the other workbook I came across. I think the Training Manual is for therapists and gets into the theory behind DBT, while the workbook is just condensed exercises and instructions for patients.
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Mar 12, 2019 17:08
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Equeen posted:any tips to deal with a job you hate? i am actively looking for another (hopefully permanent) job, but my current job so loving boring and repetitive. it takes so much mental effort to not get and leave. nah, you get escape where you can. doubly so if it allows you to leave the real world behind. there’s not a lot you can do at a place you can stand that you’re forced to visit for 8 hours a day save for a new job which you’re already looking for. so, good on you for that. in the meantime try to find fun things outside of work do you can break state of the weekly slog. it sounds like you have one, but as unhelpful as it sounds, you’ll want multiples to keep your brain fed. a book or new hobby is a good idea, curiosity literally combats depression I weave bands maybe try card weaving? v v
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Mar 12, 2019 17:39
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brain zaps aren't a thing I've heard of and I'm on escitalopram and plan to be until my doctor tells me otherwise or i die, but for my edification can someone describe the sensation? im on wellbutin too and know there is some seizure risk if i stop taking that suddenly. let's say im kidnapped by a very dumb ransom seeker and i cant take my antidepressant. what could i expect from possible brain zaps?
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Mar 12, 2019 18:06
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it's been an embarrassingly long since i've read a book, but i'll try to go to my local library this weekend. i kinda want to get into sewing/weaving, but i don't trust myself to not treat it as a passing fad. thanks for response, chokes! 
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Mar 12, 2019 18:08
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lmao I told my boss that my personal morals have been in active conflict with my job and that i probably won't be sticking around too long. I was supposed to go to some conference on the other side of the country that I didn't want to go to and there would have been no point because I would bail a month or so afterwards anyway. He looked sad and seemed blindsided by telling him about my troubles which he could do nothing about. Gonna be stressin about this interaction for a while but if I didn't say it and start moving on I don't think I would see the end of the year
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Mar 12, 2019 18:13
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