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Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Pirate Jet posted:

Is IV more important, or CP? Should I be saving Pokémon with higher IV even if their CP is low? I understand CP is just a general evaluation of your Mon’s efficiency, but leveling up a Mon costs exponentially more stardust as you do it, right? And I was told I should conserve stardust.

CP reflects the IVs and level of the mon. Better IVs = bigger CP. Higher level = bigger CP.

Honestly, CP doesn't mean that much when comparing different species of pokemon. Elemental strengths and weaknesses (mon itself and its attacks) and the total stats of the mon are more important. If a mon has poo poo base attack stat, having a 15 IV on top of that doesn't do much.

Pirate Jet posted:

How rare are Dittos? I saved a list of what they can disguise as, but I’ve been catching them as they pop up for weeks and still can’t complete that drat quest.

Very rare. Frustratingly rare.

Pirate Jet posted:

Is it worth forgoing a curveball if it means I’m not confident I can score a Great throw with it? (Excellents seem impossible but maybe I’m just bad.)

Yes. Curve balls add 50% to your catch rate. Never not be throwing curve balls.

Pirate Jet posted:

I know the OP says you should evolve your Mons in chunks with lucky eggs, but for max efficiency is there anything else I should wait for? A certain trainer level, or should I level up Mons before evolving?

Well, you can do it still and you still get about 70-80k exp in 30 minutes, but its super loving boring. Just add people as friends and in 1 week you get 10k exp per friend, in 1 month you get 50k exp per friend and in 3 months you get 100k per friend. (double that if you use a lucky egg when opening the gift that puts you over the limit)

Pirate Jet posted:

And finally, do I just plunk my friend code in the goon spreadsheet and add anyone I want that’s already in it, or is there a more formal system?

Nope, you got it.

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Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010

Pirate Jet posted:

Hey y’all. I’ve started playing this game again after hating it at launch but playing it anyways cause it was a cultural phenomenon. I’m pretty pleased with what they’ve done with updates since and I think I’m gonna stick with it this time. So I have a few questions that are probably exceedingly dumb, but I haven’t played a main series Pokémon since Gen 3 when I was 13, so bear with me.

Is IV more important, or CP? Should I be saving Pokémon with higher IV even if their CP is low? I understand CP is just a general evaluation of your Mon’s efficiency, but leveling up a Mon costs exponentially more stardust as you do it, right? And I was told I should conserve stardust.

How rare are Dittos? I saved a list of what they can disguise as, but I’ve been catching them as they pop up for weeks and still can’t complete that drat quest.

Is it worth forgoing a curveball if it means I’m not confident I can score a Great throw with it? (Excellents seem impossible but maybe I’m just bad.)

I know the OP says you should evolve your Mons in chunks with lucky eggs, but for max efficiency is there anything else I should wait for? A certain trainer level, or should I level up Mons before evolving?

And finally, do I just plunk my friend code in the goon spreadsheet and add anyone I want that’s already in it, or is there a more formal system?

I know this is a lot, but I haven’t done the Pokémon thing in ages. Thanks in advance.

Starting at the first: It depends on what you want to do with them. If you're raiding, you want High IV, High CP pokemon generally. Even so, you probably want to consider Type advantages as well. It's pretty easy to find a list of the optimal counters for a given raid boss, which can be useful even if they don't have exceptional IVs.

CP takes priority if you're interested in doing Great or Ultra League PVP, as they cap pokemon at 1500 and 2500, respectively.

Ditto seem to vary in rarity a lot. Events (one's going on now) seem to make it worse.

Always be Curving if you can. Only time I don't is on side-to-side movers and a couple that I just can't seem to figure out the angle on.

It doesn't matter when you level your pokemon, it costs the same regardless. Only consideration is if you end up wanting to do PVP: adding a second charge move to a Baby pokemon (pichu, elekid, most of the ones you can only hatch) is much cheaper than adding one to their evolved forms.

The biggest XP dumps in the game are hitting ultra and best friends, at 50k and 100k. When you're about to hit one of those is generally when you most want to use lucky eggs. Especially if you can coordinate multiple at once.

Add whoever you want. Worst that happens is they don't accept your invite. Or never open stuff you send them. Or never send you stuff. At which point you could always drop them.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Pirate Jet posted:

Is IV more important, or CP? Should I be saving Pokémon with higher IV even if their CP is low? I understand CP is just a general evaluation of your Mon’s efficiency, but leveling up a Mon costs exponentially more stardust as you do it, right? And I was told I should conserve stardust.

Don't power anything up until you're at least like, level 20 or higher. Stardust is valuable and you'll be catching stronger and stronger Pokemon quite quickly in those early levels, there's no reason to use stardust on anything when you can just replace it with something better.

IVs aren't that important, they count for about 10% of the Pokemon's stats but they don't make a huge difference outside of PVP or whatever. At this point in the game though even high cp Pokemon you catch aren't going to be that high.

Unless you're really REALLY into this game it's usually a better choice to just keep your poo poo iv mon that you caught at level 30 than to power up your 93% one that's going to take 180,000 stardust before it's comparable.

That's not to say you can't do both though, I evolve high cp low iv Pokemon to fill out my roster until I can train up one with better IVs.

Pirate Jet posted:

How rare are Dittos? I saved a list of what they can disguise as, but I’ve been catching them as they pop up for weeks and still can’t complete that drat quest.

Expect to get stuck for literally months if you missed an event tied to the quest. Slugma, gulpin, and the fossils will probably give you similar issues. Be patient, it could be a long time.

Pirate Jet posted:

Is it worth forgoing a curveball if it means I’m not confident I can score a Great throw with it? (Excellents seem impossible but maybe I’m just bad.)

No. Practice those curveballs on every throw until you CAN hit greats. Excellent is a lot tougher, don't worry about that right away.

Pirate Jet posted:

I know the OP says you should evolve your Mons in chunks with lucky eggs, but for max efficiency is there anything else I should wait for? A certain trainer level, or should I level up Mons before evolving?

This is old news, the spree you're saving up for cracking an egg on now is hitting Friendship tiers. Mass evolves used to be a good way to squeeze some xp out of the old super grindy system but they've been surpassed by other methods, particularly raids and friendship.


Pirate Jet posted:

And finally, do I just plunk my friend code in the goon spreadsheet and add anyone I want that’s already in it, or is there a more formal system?

Plunk.

Chairman Mao fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Mar 11, 2019

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

Pirate Jet posted:

Hey y’all. I’ve started playing this game again after hating it at launch but playing it anyways cause it was a cultural phenomenon. I’m pretty pleased with what they’ve done with updates since and I think I’m gonna stick with it this time. So I have a few questions that are probably exceedingly dumb, but I haven’t played a main series Pokémon since Gen 3 when I was 13, so bear with me.

Is IV more important, or CP? Should I be saving Pokémon with higher IV even if their CP is low? I understand CP is just a general evaluation of your Mon’s efficiency, but leveling up a Mon costs exponentially more stardust as you do it, right? And I was told I should conserve stardust.

How rare are Dittos? I saved a list of what they can disguise as, but I’ve been catching them as they pop up for weeks and still can’t complete that drat quest.

Is it worth forgoing a curveball if it means I’m not confident I can score a Great throw with it? (Excellents seem impossible but maybe I’m just bad.)

I know the OP says you should evolve your Mons in chunks with lucky eggs, but for max efficiency is there anything else I should wait for? A certain trainer level, or should I level up Mons before evolving?

And finally, do I just plunk my friend code in the goon spreadsheet and add anyone I want that’s already in it, or is there a more formal system?

I know this is a lot, but I haven’t done the Pokémon thing in ages. Thanks in advance.

•Until you get to later levels, don't worry about IV. Good IVs are only worth chasing after you have some high CP guys worth fighting with.

•Dittos are very rare. Sometimes research quests will have it as a reward but not currently.

•Curveballs up the catch rate significantly, practice them when you can. For Pokemon that are really far away (Zubat, Rhyhorn, etc) you can just toss straight.

•Friends overall is quickest but if you have room to store a bunch of Pidgeys, feel free to do mass evolve too. Pidgey are harder to come by now since more Pokemon have been released, so mass evolve strategy is getting less relevant.

•Add anyone, but I suggest people who are newer on the list since they'll be in the same situation as you. Older players probably already have a huge list of people to open/send gifts to. If someone isn't sending/receiving gifts with you for a long time, drop them. Do be forgiving sometimes if people can't do friend stuff every day.

btw here's three of my baby accounts that aren't inundated with friends so feel free to add them:

KS - 0618 8273 5001
AS - 1164 8652 1637
FS - 8911 6176 8266

Willsun fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Mar 11, 2019

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
Like others have said, don't bother killing your Pokemon inventory space and stockpiling Pidgeys and Sentrets for mass evolving because the friendship system has totally broken the low level xp grind into pieces. Just add a bunch of goons from the spreadsheet in the OP and you'll speed through your 20s and into the mid 30s in a matter of weeks or less. You're much better off spending your time playing this game doing actual fun things like raids and PvP than mindlessly evolving stuff for tiny bits of xp.

I wouldn't worry about IVs until you hit level 30 or higher either because Pokemon will rapidly increase in CP and you'll be replacing stuff left and right until then. Focus on assembling a solid team of strong dudes of several types like Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Roserade, Espeon, Dragonite, Machamp, Mamoswine, Salamence, etc, for raids and easy gym battles, rather than chasing IVs early on.

You can very easily stack your roster with more than adequate strong rear end Fighting types during the current event too, including Machamps. Fighting is pretty much always useful, thanks to the prevalence of Rock, Steel, and Dark types, and the high attack of most Fighting guys.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 11, 2019

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

I joined some online PvP tournament run through Discord to help coordinate battles for people who can't compete locally. People get sorted into groups of ~20 where they then spend time building up friendship with one another until everyone is ultra friends and a tournament bracket can be completed remotely.

I think I've made it about 4 days into this before realizing how absolutely loving retarded it is. I have yet to do any actual battling and there is an entire month of tedious bullshit ahead of me before I can even try.


After having this moment of clarity, I ended up downloading Jurassic World Alive and within 15 minutes I was battling people with a working matchmaking system in a significantly better battle system.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
:spergin:

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Wait, is there a jurassic park game ripoff of this? Is it actually good?

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Teeter posted:

I joined some online PvP tournament run through Discord to help coordinate battles for people who can't compete locally. People get sorted into groups of ~20 where they then spend time building up friendship with one another until everyone is ultra friends and a tournament bracket can be completed remotely.

I think I've made it about 4 days into this before realizing how absolutely loving retarded it is. I have yet to do any actual battling and there is an entire month of tedious bullshit ahead of me before I can even try.


After having this moment of clarity, I ended up downloading Jurassic World Alive and within 15 minutes I was battling people with a working matchmaking system in a significantly better battle system.

Yup, I have no goddamn clue why Niantic created such a dumb PvP/friends system. No matchmaking or actual global online system beyond the most barebones features, awful lack of real sorting options, mediocre rewards, arbitrary gating. The list goes on. Niantic has made some decent strides in other areas, but they have no idea what they're doing when it comes to PvP and long-term friendship design goals.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


I got a Limeape :toot:

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Like most disruptive developers, Niantic has to completely reinvent the wheel. We're only in the first stages of pvp match making: the LAN party.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
I can't wait for someone to invent all seeing eye so we can organize raids properly

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

DizzyBum posted:

I got a Limeape :toot:



My girlfriend is so jealous of you. She's been talking about nothing but shiny green Mankey all week.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Thanks everybody. :) I’ll add myself to the spreadsheet as soon as I’m home from work. All my real life friends are completely uninterested in Go, which is fine, but it does mean I’m kinda screwed when it comes to raids.

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

Pirate Jet posted:

Thanks everybody. :) I’ll add myself to the spreadsheet as soon as I’m home from work. All my real life friends are completely uninterested in Go, which is fine, but it does mean I’m kinda screwed when it comes to raids.

Look in to local Discord groups if you want to try raids. The biggest issues with raiding are being unable to view details for anything outside of visible range and not being able to see how many people plan to attend, both of which can be alleviated by using Discord chat. There are many city- or region-specific servers that people use to raid. My local servers (LA and SFV-area) use bots to automate the reporting/RSVP process and are extremely well-organized.

If I have some time free to raid then I pop open discord to check the list of currently active raids along with # of people who plan to attend. No time wasted driving around for empty raids.

Themata
Dec 10, 2011

If you want a pizza this pie
You can crust that
I won't cheese on you
Dance on the groove flour
And I'll give you a disco-unt


Really appreciating that they added TM quests this month. I have three more I'll be able to grab on my way to meeting a friend after work, and assuming these quests stop spawning in April, I should have hopefully hoarded enough Charge TMs to compensate for the game switching back and forth between charge moves I don't want. Fast TMs are a different story since they require 3 raids for one, but it'd give me something to burn my excess raid passes on if I manage to stack 3 of the quests.

e: vvvvvv ugh, I did not realize that, thank you. I know what I'll be doing on my lunch break, then.

Themata fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Mar 11, 2019

Auxiliary Treats
Jun 26, 2013
The TM research quests are part of the fighting event so they’re gone after 1:00 PDT tomorrow.

GTJustin
Nov 24, 2010
Roselia with razor leaf smashes great league Blanche faster than Raikou. Razor leaf is so strong I've never had dazzling gleam charge up for whatever that's worth.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
Obligatory

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


GTJustin posted:

Roselia with razor leaf smashes great league Blanche faster than Raikou. Razor leaf is so strong I've never had dazzling gleam charge up for whatever that's worth.

It's really, really good. I have a CP 1475 Razor Leaf Vileplume I keep on reserve for quick wins.


That eye sparkle is perfect.

Dragonstoned
Jan 15, 2006

MR. DOG WITH BEES IN HIS MOUTH AND WHEN HE BARKS HE SHOOTS BEES AT YOU
by Roger Hargreaves

GTJustin posted:

Roselia with razor leaf smashes great league Blanche faster than Raikou. Razor leaf is so strong I've never had dazzling gleam charge up for whatever that's worth.

I used to use Raikou against Blanche but this is so true! I fully recommend switching to a Roserade if you can get a low level one with decent attack stat.

Absolutely melts her, don't even need to use a charged attack and you can kill the Feebas before it even gets out of its ball.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:



My dick is out

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Whoa Roselia is incredible

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008
The 69th machop I’ve caught during this event has 10/8/13, 69% IVs.... and it’s shiny.

Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010
Literally anything with Razor Leaf is amazing in PVP. Razor Leaf is kinda busted.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

JUST MAKING CHILI posted:

The 69th machop I’ve caught during this event has 10/8/13, 69% IVs.... and it’s shiny.

Excellent!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWT4uYOPvs

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

I got another suicine. Third in a row.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

Mustached Demon posted:

I got another suicine. Third in a row.

I still haven't gotten one (or Lugia or Ho-oh). I have 4 entei's and 2 raikou's though.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

kensei posted:

Perfect Legendary from Research!



Regice


:negative:

Just in time to anchor your Rayquaza team. Max it out.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
No shiny event pokemon this week, just a shiny Larvitar and a shiny Mawile.

I did get a pair of perfect twins though

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Sidenote, I just now realized that there is a graphic indicator in game for 100%. There is a subtle blue glow around the center of the monster

edit: maybe it's just recent. I had a 100% pikachu today as well and when I sorted by mach and pika, only those 3 were blue

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

BabyRyoga posted:

Sidenote, I just now realized that there is a graphic indicator in game for 100%. There is a subtle blue glow around the center of the monster

Can you point that out? There's a blue glow behind new pokemon in your storage that goes away after, I think, one day.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

BabyRyoga posted:

Sidenote, I just now realized that there is a graphic indicator in game for 100%. There is a subtle blue glow around the center of the monster

edit: maybe it's just recent. I had a 100% pikachu today as well and when I sorted by mach and pika, only those 3 were blue
none of my 100% pokemon look any different

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


I've always wished they would implement something like this, where the general range of IVs in 20% chunks would be represented at a glance by some kind of glow or aura effect. Kinda had the same thought about wild spawns, to represent how much longer until they despawned.

Niantic lacks the creativity to do something like this, though. The blue glow is just last 24h poo poo.

Smiles
Oct 23, 2012

lol 32 dialga raids going on at the same time, what the heck

Beastyfella
Mar 5, 2008

I have lost all powers of reading comprehension and counting ability hours ago
I'd even be happy if they just had a raid at every gym, regardless of what kind. Then again, I still want instanced raids where you pick the level of raid and boss, even with the ability to make higher tier bosses into a hard solo/duo for rural players. Less candy, and a lower catch level, to make up for easier access to legendaries.

Knock off 1 candy and 5 levels for each tier down.

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
Why did you guys have to destroy his dreams? Imagine every day is like Christmas to him where every legendary he catches and checks in his inventory is a 100% to him.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Didn't get any shinies during the event, which was disappointing because I really wanted a Limeape. Got a Regirock from my 7 day, cool, needed that.

Smiles posted:

lol 32 dialga raids going on at the same time, what the heck

All 5 of the gyms I can see from my house have a Dialga raid ending at the same time :wtc:

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
Did you guys miss the special lunch event announcement? Niantic said they're testing out participation and interest if they open up raids like this for an average person's lunch hour, assuming they have work/school for most of the day when raids are going on. Starts at March 13th at 12pm for an hour for everyone so you guys must be in countries ahead of America.

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Smiles
Oct 23, 2012

sounds like a good idea but my hands are all oily from eating this gozleme and now my curve balls are more like dunk straight into the ground balls

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