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Can someone please explain me what those two votes today actually meant specifically? I'm a bit lost here. EDIT: 148 is pretty much a nazi number. Just without a "Hail". cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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kustomkarkommando posted:Amber Rudd abstained the real opposition
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Mar 13, 2019 21:14
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cant cook creole bream posted:Can someone please explain me what those two votes today actually meant specifically? I'm a bit lost here. The government put forward a motion that said "We rule out no-deal Brexit on March 29th". It was amended in a surprise vote beforehand to just say, "We rule out no-deal Brexit", and then was voted on and passed. Parliament has made its will known that it wants no-deal Brexit ruled out. In order to get to this point, a lot of Tories had to abstain or vote against their own government.
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David Mundell too
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Chuka on Sky News being asked his opinion and just using the opportunity to big up his lovely 'party'.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:15
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realistically, the eu would probably accept an extension given a) scrapping of may's red lines, b) some kind of changing of the guard or c) a referendum of some sort so e.g. if labour's brexit proposal somehow got through it would constitute meaningful change in the premises for negotiation, and it would be fairly unreasonable of the EU to refuse to give that a go
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cant cook creole bream posted:Can someone please explain me what those two votes today actually meant specifically? I'm a bit lost here. First one - We, are in concept, to not leave on a No Deal basis Second - We are SERIOUSLY not going to leave on a No Deal basis Third - Basically confirming the first
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I can't parse that second tweet at all. Brexit has claimed my last synapse
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Mar 13, 2019 21:15
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Greg Clark, business and energy, also no recorded vote
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Mar 13, 2019 21:16
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kustomkarkommando posted:lol please sack rudd Again.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:16
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Mozi posted:Yeah... is polling clear that if a second referendum were held that Remain would have a clear victory? Or that a general election would produce a more unified government? The last polling I can see is from January & had Remain leading, but not significantly enough to be particularly confident about the result. Nadhim Zahawi is one of the loving stupidest men in parliament, just a total toadie without an independent thought of his own.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:16
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V. Illych L. posted:realistically, the eu would probably accept an extension given a) scrapping of may's red lines, b) some kind of changing of the guard or c) a referendum of some sort Don't be too sure. People in Brussels are starting to take personal offence at the UK's attitude.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:16
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Gort posted:The government put forward a motion that said "We rule out no-deal Brexit on March 29th". It was amended in a surprise vote beforehand to just say, "We rule out no-deal Brexit", and then was voted on and passed. Parliament has made its will known that it wants no-deal Brexit ruled out. So, the British Government decided that the default which automatically happens in two weeks can not happen under any circumstances. Got it. Was there a single British vote with any relation to Brexit which wasn't absolute chaos?
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Mar 13, 2019 21:17
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ConanThe3rd posted:First one - We, are in concept, to not leave on a No Deal basis its worth noting we are still probably leaving on a no deal basis
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Mar 13, 2019 21:17
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Oh gently caress me is red Ed still in Parliament?
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Mar 13, 2019 21:17
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https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/1105924096079155204 So. After promising a vote on an extension, May is making it conditional on approving her deal before next week. She's lied, and people are very angry. May is going for Meaningful Vote 3 and hoping Brexiteers are so dismayed by the prospect of a long extension or no Brexit that they vote it through. It might work, but if she wants to play hardball with the DUP I know where my money would be. She's breaking all her promises here and the likelihood is her motion tomorrow will be amended back to what people thought it would be when she promised it.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:18
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Hentai Jihadist posted:its worth noting The hook and crook of the thatch being what it is, aye.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:19
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cant cook creole bream posted:EDIT: 148 is pretty much a nazi number. Just without a "Hail". Or with a "Hail", but not hailing anyone in particular. Anyway, I think they should make Larry the next Conservative leader, he's clearly the best Tory.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:19
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Why do the DUP want Brexit anyway? It just seems to be a basket of threats to things they hold dear.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:19
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Heners_UK posted:Anyone want to slap me down about how we're still doomed to exit on 29th March 2019? I don't think we're totally doomed. BUT. This is currently still a likely outcome because of how utterly hopeless the government is.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:19
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/1105924096079155204 Yeah she alluded to this in her point of order. Absolutely gonna piss everyone off including bercow.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:20
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learnincurve posted:Oh gently caress me is red Ed still in Parliament? I thought you watched this poo poo every day?
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Mar 13, 2019 21:20
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forkboy84 posted:lol the BBC cut away as soon as the SNP leader rose for his point of order, exactly like happened yesterday. Quality. Yes. My Scottish friends are furious about this keep happening. Communist Bear posted:May is finished. She's beyond a lame duck PM. She's going to be ignored. Gives new meaning to the #neverthelessshepersisted thing.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:20
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah she alluded to this in her point of order. Absolutely gonna piss everyone off including bercow. I can't see Bercow allowing a third "meaningful" vote. He just torpedoed her by preventing the withdrawal of the Spelman amendment.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:21
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jabby posted:JRM popping up to say the motion passed has no legal force.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:21
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and she just walks out. What a loving oval office, these people are spineless non-humans.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:23
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Communist Bear posted:May is finished. She's beyond a lame duck PM. She's going to be ignored. Can't believe someone is actually this optimistic. Theresa May will be hanging onto the job until the day she dies.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:23
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Everyone greeting Theresa May on her way out of the house. "Goodbyeee~" I could feel that cut from Lincolnshire.
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learnincurve posted:Oh gently caress me is red Ed still in Parliament? Something that looks like Ed is, kinda sounded like an alien 
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Orange Devil posted:Don't be too sure. People in Brussels are starting to take personal offence at the UK's attitude. Can you gently caress off to the Euro thread or something? It's so obvious you're invested in us leaving.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:24
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Gort posted:Why do the DUP want Brexit anyway? It just seems to be a basket of threats to things they hold dear. European state aid rules stops them from directly handing out money to their mates to keep everything ticking over, Europe is filled with Catholic socialists, also NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TILL DO
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Mar 13, 2019 21:25
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Diet Crack posted:and she just walks out. What a loving oval office, these people are spineless non-humans. To be fair this Scottish bloke talking right now has lost the plot as well. The EU will not accept an indefinite extension without a very clear reason. "We haven't figured out how to put our pants on yet" is not an acceptable reason. Regarde Aduck posted:Can you gently caress off to the Euro thread or something? It's so obvious you're invested in us leaving. Nah, and also it'd be a lot better if you didn't leave.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:25
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V. Illych L. posted:realistically, the eu would probably accept an extension given a) scrapping of may's red lines, b) some kind of changing of the guard or c) a referendum of some sort EU elections are in May. To my knowledge, the EU wants this business settled before then. May would have to basically convince the EU27 of the feasibility of another GE or referendum and the plan it &, campaign for, and carry it out within weeks.
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Orange Devil posted:To be fair this Scottish bloke talking right now has lost the plot as well. The EU will not accept an indefinite extension without a very clear reason. "We haven't figured out how to put our pants on yet" is not an acceptable reason. Yeah, he had me riled up for him until he mentioned that and I was like "god damnit, that's not going to happen dude.."
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Mar 13, 2019 21:26
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cant cook creole bream posted:So, the British Government decided that the default which automatically happens in two weeks can not happen under any circumstances. Got it. Look mate we have made the rising of the tide illegal and therefore it will stop
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Obliterati posted:Look mate we have made the rising of the tide illegal and therefore it will stop I actually spent a few minutes googling for a good picture of Xerxes whipping the sea that I could label with Brexit, but then I cba
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Azza Bamboo posted:Everyone greeting Theresa May on her way out of the house. Yeah that was fantastic.
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Gort posted:Why do the DUP want Brexit anyway? It just seems to be a basket of threats to things they hold dear. Because they think the EU is a project by the Hapsburgs to make everyone a catholic.
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