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is anyone using a dell xps 13 with fedora? how is it? do random keys not work? does the fan spin at max constantly? Its really hard to find an honest answer about this stuff, often you'll read a post that says "it's rock solid, absolutely flawless, I couldn't be happier" but then further down the thread the user will reveal that the wifi itermittently disable itself and a bunch of keyboard buttons don't work
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Last Chance posted:linux on the desktop/laptop is fine as long as you don't need sound, wi-fi, or power management gahahahahahahahahaha this post remains funny every time I read it
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Poopernickel posted:
but all connection managers are garbage
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Kamrat posted:Is Devuan bad because of no systemd? I thought people hated systemd. it's bad because of no systemd and the people surrounding it are neckbearded tin foil hat nutcases it's also good because it acts as a containment zone for the tin foil hat beardlords
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Kamrat posted:I want to have a look at some bad distros, so what's the worst distro? there’s a distro for every requirement, so it’s hard to note a specific distro that’s bad at everything because it’s probably really good for at least one thing that makes its userbase sustainable
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In linux desktop news, the Linspire and Freespire names were purchased earlier this year and new versions (based on Ubuntu) were released after a hiatus of more than a decade (I think). Freespire is, as its name suggests, free.
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Kamrat posted:Is Devuan bad because of no systemd? I thought people hated systemd. systemd is hated by morons
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sure, there are legitimate technical issues with individual components in the toolset collectively labeled 'systemd'. these typically come up in the auxiliary/optional ones that arent widely used yet due to said technical issues but when someone comes around and says they 'hate systemd' as a concept, 100% moron
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el dorito posted:there’s a distro for every requirement, so it’s hard to note a specific distro that’s bad at everything because it’s probably really good for at least one thing that makes its userbase sustainable Wow that was a very diplomatic way of putting things.  Progressive JPEG posted:sure, there are legitimate technical issues with individual components in the toolset collectively labeled 'systemd'. these typically come up in the auxiliary/optional ones that arent widely used yet due to said technical issues I see, I never really bothered with the systemd discussion, it's just whenever it came up people started going off on it so I just assumed it was universally hated.
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The_Franz posted:devuan changing my answer to this
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just grab a random chinese iso from a torrent tracker
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systemd is bad, but the alternatives are worse also the correct linux is red star os, op
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Soricidus posted:systemd is bad, but the alternatives are worse How could it possibly be bad, it's used by millions. :P It's also the only OS that's publicly endorsed by a world leader
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Amethyst posted:gahahahahahahahahaha this post remains funny every time I read it it's not a joke
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Kamrat posted:I see, I never really bothered with the systemd discussion, it's just whenever it came up people started going off on it so I just assumed it was universally hated. evergreen https://twitter.com/kelseyhightower/status/567488210897350656
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Kamrat posted:I want to have a look at some bad distros, so what's the worst distro? DSL sucks dick
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Ah I see, so that's how it is. Joe Mama Poonana posted:DSL sucks dick A distro I can fit on a zip drive, count me in.
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100 entire megabytes? woah what are you wasting with all that space!
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Kamrat posted:I want to have a look at some bad distros, so what's the worst distro? AIX
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I know this is an epic self own etc etc but what do y'all use for power management with a laptop and Linux? Im using a Razer blade stealth (kaby lake) and before I put manjaro on it I looked at other ppl with my laptop and they were getting avg battery life I'm getting like 3 hours on battery 
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Scionix posted:I know this is an epic self own etc etc but what do y'all use for power management with a laptop and Linux? powertop --auto-tune and remembering to turn off the discrete graphics card when not using it
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kaby lake might be new enough that you don't need bbswitch to turn it off, just remember to not load the nvidia module and enable all power saving features you can through powertop
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turn it off when you're not using it, that is. arch wiki has an example on how you can enable powertop tuning at boot time
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Ty friend Still trying not to get roasted every time I mention I own that laptop It's really good I swear
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Joe Mama Poonana posted:DSL sucks dick is that short for dick sucking linux
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also lennart bad systemd good systemctl bad systemctl tab completion bad resolved really bad overall verdict on systemd package: bad
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Worse is Better.
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Scionix posted:I know this is an epic self own etc etc but what do y'all use for power management with a laptop and Linux? I'm trying to choose between a razer blade and a dell xps do you still run windows? how is it?
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Scionix posted:I know this is an epic self own etc etc but what do y'all use for power management with a laptop and Linux? Use windows, run linux in free-as-in-beer vmware player. My lappy has Linux on the secondary drive, and it boots/works fine. But 99% of the time I just pass the drive through to a VM and run that instead. honestly the hardware support is actually better/more consistent when it's running in a VM, and virtualization extensions on modern CPUs mean there's almost no slowdown
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Poopernickel posted:systemd good 
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I don't know what changed but systemctl tab completion was working fine this week. I guess what I"m saying is it works for me.
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systemd: "I don't know what changed but I guess it's working now??" words we should all definitely think about the most important process in our entire linux
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Joe Mama Poonana posted:DSL sucks dick i remember running DSL in 2007. I installed it on my sister's 2001-vintage compaq laptop. it had like ~128mb of ram and its keyboard and battery were broken a true linux rig
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Poopernickel posted:systemd: "I don't know what changed but I guess it's working now??" wtf are you blathering on about
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Amethyst posted:I'm trying to choose between a razer blade and a dell xps it is very good, about 7-8 hrs battery life on windows, windows 10 actually uses high DPI correctly 90% of the time, and the laptop itself is built beautifully and the keyboard/trackpad are above average. Only downside is screen bezel if that's a big turnoff for you. Tankakern posted:kaby lake might be new enough that you don't need bbswitch to turn it off, just remember to not load the nvidia module and enable all power saving features you can through powertop so I installed powertop and did some snooping, and the battery life goes from 7.5 hours estimated to 3 hours estimated when I have a video open in firefox lol. awkard
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Poopernickel posted:systemd: "I don't know what changed but I guess it's working now??" systemd is probably the process I care the least about on my Linux. What is thread consensus on NixOS?
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NetBSD is a nice BSD if for some reason you can’t use macOS it’s also good if you have some old hardware you’d like to make useful
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I now have a VAX on which to install NetBSD also VMS and Ultrix, thanks to SCSI2SD it’s a VAXstation 4000 VLC and it’s adorable
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Athas posted:systemd is probably the process I care the least about on my Linux. probably not enough people have looked at it to have an opinion i think its revolutionary
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