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Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:32
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Get El Dandy in there
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Mar 14, 2019 17:42
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A friend wants a good selection of 5 best ZSJ matches and while I know some, I'm not an authority and I also don't wanna send her to multiple subscription services etc. What's a good selection of five with a maximum of one paid service? (Also Cesaro looked way cooler with the close cut but still visibly balding. It was so much more masculine imo)
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Mar 14, 2019 17:51
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Nehru the Damaja posted:A friend wants a good selection of 5 best ZSJ matches and while I know some, I'm not an authority and I also don't wanna send her to multiple subscription services etc. What's a good selection of five with a maximum of one paid service? Well, I've never watched any of his RevPro matches but I think RevPro has a free trial? I've only seen him in NJPW, from that my favorite ZSJ matches are: - vs. Tanahashi, NJC 2018 - vs. Sanada, G1 2018 - vs. Naito, Power Struggle 2018 I know he had plenty of other incredible matches in 2017 and 2018 that others will be able to detail but those were my favorites. The Naito Power Struggle match has some of my favorite selling and storytelling in any match I've ever seen.
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Mar 14, 2019 18:08
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Nehru the Damaja posted:A friend wants a good selection of 5 best ZSJ matches and while I know some, I'm not an authority and I also don't wanna send her to multiple subscription services etc. What's a good selection of five with a maximum of one paid service? The easiest thing to do is just watch his run through last year's New Japan Cup and his subsequent title match with Okada. Each match showed off a different aspect of his style. It certainly made me a believer.
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Mar 14, 2019 18:09
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For a non NJPW one I absolutely love this match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PBWKJLGkjo
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Mar 14, 2019 18:11
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Sandman McMahon posted:Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed. I could list a bunch of names, but I don't know if you'd consider them 'obscure' or not. That being said, Shiro Koshinaka is my favorite 80s/90s New Japan Career Midcarder.
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Mar 14, 2019 18:47
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Every single ZSJ/Ishii match is incredible, they bring out the best in each other all the time. Also seconding the SANADA match from last year’s G1, it’s as ground-based and technical as all Zack’s matches but told a completely different story than his matches usually do. Absolutely awesome stuff.
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Mar 14, 2019 19:21
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New Japan World had a Rev Pro ZSJ vs Kushida match before he joined Suzuki Gun that is pretty great as well
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Mar 14, 2019 20:16
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Any of the matches Sabre had with Chris Hero or Roderick Strong are extremely good.
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Mar 14, 2019 20:29
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Seconding any Sabre/Ishii match because god drat they have chemistry.
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Mar 14, 2019 22:17
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Sandman McMahon posted:Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed. so many guys The W*INGER, super archie, los thundercats, homero simpson
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Mar 14, 2019 23:00
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Sandman McMahon posted:Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed. Kazunari Murakami The Cobra (the Japanese guy that wrestled Dynamite Kid, not the WCW one) Joe Malenko Dan Bobish Kato Kung Lee Dan Spivey Al Perez Black Gordman Jos LeDuc
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Mar 15, 2019 00:23
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Sandman McMahon posted:Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed. A stable must be made out of Beefcake's gimmicks. all of them.
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Mar 15, 2019 00:42
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If you start early enough, you can save Bruiser Brody and Jerry Blackwell from an untimely death. You could even save Terry Taylor's career!
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Mar 15, 2019 01:00
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Canadian edition "The Natural" Don Callis "First Nation Sensation" Wavell Starr "Ravenous" Randy Myers "The Great" Gama Singh "The Man of 1002 Holds" Leo Burke "Hotshot" Johnny Devine "Champagne" Gerry Morrow
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Mar 15, 2019 01:08
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Kazunari Murakami this is hosed up because murakami, joe malenko, kato kung lee, danny spivey and al perez aren't obscure
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Mar 15, 2019 03:42
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Smoking Crow posted:this is hosed up because murakami, joe malenko, kato kung lee, danny spivey and al perez aren't obscure Yes they are. You're a nerd, so you know who they are. Zero of those dudes would be described as stars or even particularly significant midcarders.
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Mar 15, 2019 03:49
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Is Joe Malenko related to Dean Malenko? That Murakami dude has good cardio tho, I hear he runs ultramarathons.
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Mar 15, 2019 03:53
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Dias posted:Is Joe Malenko related to Dean Malenko? Yes, they're brothers, Joe is older.
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Mar 15, 2019 04:07
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Yes they are. You're a nerd, so you know who they are. kato kung lee was in main events all the time, even if he was a major waste of potential that trio of kato kung lee/kung fu/black man was hot Dias posted:Is Joe Malenko related to Dean Malenko? joe is dean's brother. he was a better wrestler than dean was. UWF and AJPW had a bidding war for him
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Mar 15, 2019 04:12
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Sandman McMahon posted:Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed. IceMan King Parsons
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Mar 15, 2019 05:23
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Sandman McMahon posted:Recently started up Fire Promoter and I’m doing a 80’s/early 90’s type thing between all the different companies. Problem is I’d like to have a couple dozen or so names to fill things up. Name your favourite obscure 80s/90s wrestlers for me! Japanese and Mexican guys are more than welcome. They’re not just legal, they’re allowed. 'Big Daddy' Shirley Crabtree Possibly the most British wrestler ever: 
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Mar 15, 2019 12:59
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What're some examples of great babyface roll-up wins?
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Mar 15, 2019 20:13
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VJeff posted:What're some examples of great babyface roll-up wins? The Cannonball/123 Kid vs Razor Ramon. Depending on what you class as a 'roll up', the finish to Shawn Michaels vs HHH at Summerslam 02 might count.
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Mar 15, 2019 20:23
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Bret Hart suckering Diesel into getting small packaged was great. As was Davey Boy reversing his sunset flip.
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Mar 15, 2019 20:45
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El Gallinero Gros posted:As was Davey Boy reversing his sunset flip. e: There has to be something in YTR's body of work that fits the bill, though. frankenfreak fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Mar 15, 2019 |
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Mar 15, 2019 21:02
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VJeff posted:What're some examples of great babyface roll-up wins? Colt Cabana vs. Togi Makabe from this years New Japan Cup.
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frankenfreak posted:Only didn't mention this because I don't consider it a roll-up in the narrow sense of the term.
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Mar 15, 2019 21:43
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jesus WEP posted:there was a tag gauntlet where YTR reversed a Taguchi hip attack into a rollup for a win That was WK12, wasn't it?
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Mar 15, 2019 21:59
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Pretty sure one of the Flair/Steamboat matches ended with a Steamboat roll-up out of a Figure Four attempt. I believe the first Jumbo/Misawa match ended with a roll-up.
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Mar 15, 2019 22:13
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Kairi at Takeover Brooklyn IV
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frankenfreak posted:e: There has to be something in YTR's body of work that fits the bill, though. G1 Special at Cow Palace YTR got his arm trapped by ZSJ after a failed low blow and reversed it into a rollup pin after Ishii took off ZSJ's head with a clothesline.
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Mar 16, 2019 00:25
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VJeff posted:What're some examples of great babyface roll-up wins? Juice Robinson countering Jay White's finisher into a schoolboy was a perfect payoff to his "I can roll up any motherfucker" promo
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Mar 16, 2019 00:55
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Benne posted:Juice Robinson countering Jay White's finisher into a schoolboy was a perfect payoff to his "I can roll up any motherfucker" promo God that match was booked so well. Even the cathartic spot where Juice got to hit the left hand of God when the ref was down, and I think Jay was even the first guy to kick out of Pulp Friction.
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Mar 16, 2019 03:41
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Didn't Tanahashi beat White with a rollup sometime last fall? Dunno how objectively great that was, but my eternal hatred for the knife pervert made me mark out at least.
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Mar 16, 2019 08:15
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Gaz-L posted:God that match was booked so well. Even the cathartic spot where Juice got to hit the left hand of God when the ref was down, and I think Jay was even the first guy to kick out of Pulp Friction. Nope, Kenneth Omega was the first guy. Cerebral Bore posted:Didn't Tanahashi beat White with a rollup sometime last fall? Dunno how objectively great that was, but my eternal hatred for the knife pervert made me mark out at least. Yeah at KOPW.
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Mar 16, 2019 08:22
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White's 17-6 (19-6 if you count two RevPro wins) in singles matches since returning as the Knife Pervert and two of those losses were via roll-up, Juice for the US title and Tana for the briefcase. His main weaknesses so far have only been roll-ups from fiery babyfaces and getting his rear end beat by other more evil-er heels like Suzuki and (at the time) Fale.
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Mar 16, 2019 08:28
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taguchi had a very good one when he was doing "serious professional ryuske taguchi" for last years bosj. i think against kushida? the match was like 4 minutes long, and did an awesome job putting over "yeah, this guy jokes around a lot, but he can really get the job done"Petit Gregory posted:G1 Special at Cow Palace man that was such a good yano match finish
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About to watch Lucha Underground season 4 purely for Pentagon DARK. It's a long season though. Who does he feud with, and is it worth my time?
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