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homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Stairmaster posted:

Just pirate it fam
what about the Manga Anime Guardians..

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Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

:catdrugs:

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
https://twitter.com/bossmonsterbani/status/1106291216231084033

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

robutts in 15, I assume

homeless snail posted:

Tonight, the Macross stream is back!! Maybe... my gotdang computer rebooted while it was uploading last night... But it'll probably be done, @ 8PM Eastern!! High Quality Episodes of SDF Macross and Macross Frontier
https://cytu.be/r/okayletswatchanime

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Good for them

https://twitter.com/muro_sub/status/1106194051781451782?s=19

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...
run with the wind has been very good as a binge watch, i'll probably catch up to current episode over the weekend

Dryzen
Jul 23, 2011

I seriously wish I hadn't gone to the heavens feel 2 showing and just waited for the bluray

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

heavens feel 2 the movie in theaters owned

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

also it's 2019 and people still call sakura wormslut

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
what do the heavens feel like

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

that feel when heavens, but again

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
that feel when you're in the Get Beat Up By Hercules A Lot Timeline instead of the Cute Cooking Manga Spinoff Timeline

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

DoubleDonut posted:

that feel when you're in the Get Beat Up By Hercules A Lot Timeline instead of the Cute Cooking Manga Spinoff Timeline

they're one and the same

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
*getting all my bones brutally destroyed by hercules* i will stand this, because tomorrow shirou is cooking spaghetti and all my friends will be there, including hercules

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Aurora posted:

also it's 2019 and people still call sakura wormslut

Ugh.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Coaaab posted:

run with the wind has been very good as a binge watch, i'll probably catch up to current episode over the weekend
yeah im honestly glad I fell off it for a bit, it's pace is intentionally slow and it's been chill to just watch an ep or two every day

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Aurora posted:

also it's 2019 and people still call sakura wormslut

As someone that is just now getting into Fate stuff, please let me know how to avoid finding out what this refers to.

Also I finished Extella. Tamamo never really ended up being fun to play as but I dont hate her anymore.

Captain Cappy
Aug 7, 2008

Aurora posted:

also it's 2019 and people still call sakura wormslut

it's 2019 and people are still posting sakurafish

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Furnaceface posted:

As someone that is just now getting into Fate stuff, please let me know how to avoid finding out what this refers to.

Also I finished Extella. Tamamo never really ended up being fun to play as but I dont hate her anymore.

well, it's a major plot point for heaven's feel that nerds turned into a meme because haha sakura is horny that means she's a slut and also deserves rape

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Aurora posted:

well, it's a major plot point for heaven's feel that nerds turned into a meme because haha sakura is horny that means she's a slut and also deserves rape

Well that sure got dark in a hurry. :(

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
I'm gonna tell you straight up: If you keep getting into Type-Moon stuff you are likely going to see rape scenes

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
The extended universe stuff and adaptations tone down/remove a lot of it but Tsukihime and F/sn can be pretty gross a lot of the time

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

there are no graphic rape sequences in fate. shinji tries to do it to sakura in heaven's feel but is stopped. the closest is probably rider giving shirou a sex dream to steal his magic. they also describe the way the worms work in detail, but in the VN itself you don't see the worms literally violating sakura.

Aurora fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Mar 15, 2019

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

now, fate hollow ataraxia

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
fate/stay night also has realta nua which cuts out the more graphic stuff, if you want that

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I don't even know why we're talking about "rape scenes" as if that's even remotely the issue here. The issue is that Sakura is portrayed as having been molested by her family as a child and is a traumatized victim of abuse. So naturally grognards call her a slut since she's not a virgin. That's it, full stop.

I mean, I dunno if it's the most sensitive possible portrayal of that kind of backstory, and maybe all the magical nonsense dilutes the mundane horror of it, but I don't see how that loving matters. It also doesn't matter if there are graphic rape scenes or not. What matters is that nerds turned her abuse into a meme about her being a slut, because they are awful people.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

More like double doofus

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf5VeHi0tec

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Recommended to listen afterwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WROJl6QtNMk

What the hell? :confused:

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Captain Cappy posted:

it's 2019 and people are still posting sakurafish


Is there a secret dark history to this meme because it always made me chuckle previously

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Nate RFB posted:

Is there a secret dark history to this meme because it always made me chuckle previously

Seems to be a 4Chan-related forced meme. (Link goes to Know Your Meme, so no :nws: worries, I suppose).

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum

Nate RFB posted:

Is there a secret dark history to this meme because it always made me chuckle previously

He likes it!

cave emperor
Sep 1, 2016

i watched the non non biyori movie and im happy to report that its extremely boring

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

Clarste posted:

I don't even know why we're talking about "rape scenes" as if that's even remotely the issue here. The issue is that Sakura is portrayed as having been molested by her family as a child and is a traumatized victim of abuse. So naturally grognards call her a slut since she's not a virgin. That's it, full stop.

I mean, I dunno if it's the most sensitive possible portrayal of that kind of backstory, and maybe all the magical nonsense dilutes the mundane horror of it, but I don't see how that loving matters. It also doesn't matter if there are graphic rape scenes or not. What matters is that nerds turned her abuse into a meme about her being a slut, because they are awful people.

Uh I was just trying to inform someone that type-moon stuff is often pretty gross about sex, especially with regards to consent. I'm not sure why you're coming at me like warning someone about the content of a visual novel is somehow a problem

I guess next time I'll condemn the stupid meme and just completely ignore the gross content that spawned it lol

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Sexual assault is a large part of Sakura's backstory. While some of the details get dumbly tied into Lore, the actual content of her anger, frustration, and healing from it is very well handled. A few lame 4chan nerds turned this into a meme about her being a 'slut' because they're incapable of empathizing with women. More casual fate fans parrot it because they don't know the context.

It isn't framed as pornographic or explicit even in the versions of the game with explicit sex scenes, and it isn't removed in the versions without because it's such an important part of Sakura's character.

I wish people were capable of talking about this like reasonable adults without either wringing their hands in a way that makes it sound awful or going straight into dumb memes.

DoubleDonut posted:

Uh I was just trying to inform someone that type-moon stuff is often pretty gross about sex, especially with regards to consent. I'm not sure why you're coming at me like warning someone about the content of a visual novel is somehow a problem

I guess next time I'll condemn the stupid meme and just completely ignore the gross content that spawned it lol
What's 'gross' about the sakura stuff, is the thing? 'especially with regards to consent' - dude, it's intentionally a bad thing. The entire arc of Heaven's Feel is about Sakura's justified anger at it. If you think it's poorly handled, that's fair, but there's a difference between that and framing it like it's rape porn that you're meant to get off to, or like it's just done for shock value, or that the writers somehow accidentally stumbled into it.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

Endorph posted:

What's 'gross' about the sakura stuff, is the thing? 'especially with regards to consent' - dude, it's intentionally a bad thing. The entire arc of Heaven's Feel is about Sakura's justified anger at it. If you think it's poorly handled, that's fair, but there's a difference between that and framing it like it's rape porn that you're meant to get off to.

I think there are probably better ways to depict sexual assault as backstory than having your character swarmed by penises with teeth. Couple that with the way Tsukihime treats sexual consent and yeah, I'm not especially willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

DoubleDonut posted:

I think there are probably better ways to depict sexual assault as backstory than having your character swarmed by penises with teeth.
imo i thought it was a pretty alright depiction of how viscerally dehumanizing and disturbing sexual assault can be, even if it gets caught in the weeds of trying to justify the imagery instead of just using it as metaphor.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

like idk the worms always felt a little belladonna of sadness to me, psychedelic/weird imagery meant to describe how sakura feels. nasu's just a lore junkie and at the time seemed like he was way less willing to just have weird imagery be weird imagery (see also: akiha having a five paragraph long explanation of her weird heat powers and why that makes her hair go red instead of just having it as a visual metaphor for her demonic side) so you get some weird explanation of it that undermines it a bit, but i dont think that makes it inherently valueless or 'problematic' or whatever.

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