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Gunder
May 22, 2003

Robot Mil posted:

And apparently the answer to this shitshow is to keep privatising harder??

If at first you don't succeed, privatise again and again. Maybe they think they simply didn't privatise enough the first time?

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FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

oops

FBS fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Mar 16, 2019

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Gonzo McFee posted:


I dont think it was racist, just skin colour based xenophobia.



Confession: I read his manifesto and have rarely seen things like it before. It comes up on the odd occasion.

The short answer: birthrates.

The long answer:

He thinks Europeans are under threat from people of other cultures settling inside of our nation.

There's two things to explode here: "European Culture" and some kind of threat to it.

He doesn't clearly define exactly what he means by "European culture" or what it is to be European. He does outright reject the idea that legal citizenship applies to this. He does also say that integration "does not work" as people choose to maintain their culture when they immigrate and that the melting pot has therefore failed because division remains. The only time he ever suggests that someone of one culture could potentially join another is when he mentions "traitors" to Europe joining the cultures of new immigrant settlers.

While he doesn't clearly define exactly what he means by European culture, he does give the nod to an anthropologist type professor he name dropped (I can't remember which) and also talks a lot about European culture as a "gift" from ancestors as well as something owed to its children. I would wager that his notions of what constitutes a European are not too far from animal pedigree.

To sum up thus far-- he defends the idea that there is no way to "become" European from another position, and seems to define someone's "culture" as a matter of their ancestry. Now that I've got this clear... ...maybe, just maybe, the next bit will make some internal sense.

He states birthrates of people of European descent are below replacement, which is to say that over a long period of time this group will eventually see a decline in its numbers. He then states that non European birthrates in certain groups are higher. Non Europeans are then settling in Europe and it paints this picture where whitey shrinks away in the booming fecundity of immigrants like the red squirrel to the grey squirrel.

From there he explains that any culture exists only through violence, and that it is only through violence that a culture can defend itself.

It goes on and on and on, and I want to go to bed goodnight.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Mar 16, 2019

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/miqdaad/status/1106551122444075008?s=19

I dont think it was racist, just skin colour based xenophobia.

It's not even that, they're all just rallying around on cue to complain that Islamophobia isn't a word actually (because it is and it accurately describes what drives them and they desperately want to keep appearing legitimate and reasonable)

It's like FBPEs only where every attack on Muslims generates "well yes but there are legitimate concerns about Islam and they want to silence us with this word!" They're making it the number one priority because they want to keep pushing this poo poo, so they're running damage control and we're probably gonna hear this a lot

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Azza Bamboo posted:

Confession: I read his manifesto and have rarely seen things like it before. It comes up on the odd occasion.

The short answer: birthrates.

The long answer:


yes it's that stupid Great Replacement theory

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I just opened the door to my bathroom, flicked on the light, walked in and felt that there was something odd under my foot, and then looked down to see I had inadvertently crushed a mouse that I had no idea was in my house. It was clearly severely injured but still scuffling about so I had to beat it to death with a rolling pin, like out of an episode of Tom and Jerry, to put it out of its misery. Then I picked it up with a paper towel and threw it over the back fence of the garden into the alleyway. Then I bleached the bathroom floor.

I killed a fellow mammal, it was not pleasant, I do not recommend the experience, 2/5.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Sorry bud, I've had to do that a couple of times and it's not a good feeling. You did the right thing making it quick though, it just got unlucky

In lighter news, why's Rarity got beefy Nick Clegg for an av???

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Dabir posted:

yes it's that stupid Great Replacement theory

I find it fascinating that someone would like every nation to become a wildlife reserve for its supposedly native kind of human, and that this bizarre project is somehow important enough to spill blood over.

Another thing he rants about is that equality is "impossible" and that discrepancies always arise. It culminates in his allcaps "MINORITIES ARE ALWAYS TREATED BADLY. DON'T BECOME ONE". It's the "don't go out looking like that" of discrimination.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Mar 16, 2019

Robot Mil
Apr 13, 2011

Dabir posted:

yes it's that stupid Great Replacement theory

The news was showing a piece about far right marches and they were all yelling about not being replaced.

gently caress that, white dudes have had their shot and hosed it up. Don't want to be replaced? Don't be a loving trashfire of a human being.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Comrade Fakename posted:

I killed a fellow mammal, it was not pleasant, I do not recommend the experience, 2/5.

Commiserations Comrade.

I'm afraid that if you have seen one mouse, you have many, many mice. I used to try humanely trapping them and taking them far away, but I'm not sure how actually humane that is in the end. If you can find how they're getting in (and where in your belongings they are nesting and chewing) you may save yourself much grief.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
I think it's "if you think you have one mouse, you have half a dozen; if you think you have half a dozen, you have an infestation".

This house had awful problems with mice when we moved in thanks to 20 years of being a ratty student house share and not being maintained properly by the landlord. Filling the obvious holes into the larder and cupboards with spray foam filler at least kept them out of there. But the one weird trick that has seen us mouse-free for the last two years? Adopting a rescue kitten.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Bardeh posted:

Yeah...don't. I remember when I first heard about 8chan, and naively went to see what all the fuss was about. There's no moderation whatsoever, and even in less than a minute that I was on the site I saw horrible, gross poo poo. I can't fathom spending day after day on a message board like that. It's no surprise at all that if someone spent their teen years online in a place like that that they'd turn out utterly hosed up.

This was the reaction one of the DiS parallel universe board guys had after coming to investigate UKMT. We were posting freaky neural-network-generated cat pics at the time and he thought they were images of animal abuse. I think ookiimarukochan's av and red text also freaked him out, which is probably fair if you don't know about the culture of buying avs for others.

Actually, before I started reading SA regularly I had the impression that its culture was pretty much the same as 4chan. They were the same thing in my mind. Still feel a bit the same about GBS to be honest :shrug:

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
Something Awful has cleaned itself up fairly well - GBS is still miles ahead of what it once was.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
'European Culture' means 'the white race' it's not a difficult code to crack

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1106671054708187136

dispatch_async posted:

How about we just ban all newspapers and imprison the editors

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Azza Bamboo posted:

He states birthrates of people of European descent are below replacement, which is to say that over a long period of time this group will eventually see a decline in its numbers. He then states that non European birthrates in certain groups are higher. Non Europeans are then settling in Europe and it paints this picture where whitey shrinks away in the booming fecundity of immigrants like the red squirrel to the grey squirrel.

From there he explains that any culture exists only through violence, and that it is only through violence that a culture can defend itself.

It goes on and on and on, and I want to go to bed goodnight.

Love how these great replacement fucksticks always equate demographic changes with genocide

Mate your culture will exist for as long as you live and hold on to it, who loving cares what kind of music your great great grandkids listen to?




...and then I remembered the actual content of the 14 words and that the concept of securing racial dominance forever makes these people hard even though they won't be around to see it, so, yeah, guess that'll be why.

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

What I don't get is that immigration mostly means that eventually everyone will be mixed. So you can not say that whites are replaced by browns, its that people just become mixed.

But the guy somehow only sees the whites being replaced by browns, and I think the reason why is that he doesn't actually believe that white guys will have the same success with any type of woman, hence there are more brown people and "whites beings replaced". And the whole doc is laser focused on this issue, not at all whether this actually has implication about culture or what it means or whether every brown dude is a Muslim and vice-versa. No, it's all about loving and making babies.

It's a huge Freudian incel thing that's going on here, about non-whites having more kids, and also without fail these theories are brought forward by dudes that don't have families, kids or even sex.


What I am saying is that this is a cucko theory.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
God I'd hate to curse a child with my failure blood and i'm like fifty loving rungs up on the ladder over these losers.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

caps on caps on caps posted:

What I don't get is that immigration mostly means that eventually everyone will be mixed. So you can not say that whites are replaced by browns, its that people just become mixed.

But the guy somehow only sees the whites being replaced by browns, and I think the reason why is that he doesn't actually believe that white guys will have the same success with any type of woman, hence there are more brown people and "whites beings replaced". And the whole doc is laser focused on this issue, not at all whether this actually has implication about culture or what it means or whether every brown dude is a Muslim and vice-versa. No, it's all about loving and making babies.

It's a huge Freudian incel thing that's going on here, about non-whites having more kids, and also without fail these theories are brought forward by dudes that don't have families, kids or even sex.


What I am saying is that this is a cucko theory.

Right wingers: “Too many people have babies just for benefits, if you can’t afford children don’t have them!”

Also right wingers: “Not enough [white] people are having children! We are going to be outbred by [non-whites]!”

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

caps on caps on caps posted:

What I don't get is that immigration mostly means that eventually everyone will be mixed. So you can not say that whites are replaced by browns, its that people just become mixed.

But the guy somehow only sees the whites being replaced by browns,

It's because they're enormous racists who think that if you're mixed you're actually brown.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Right wingers: “Too many people have babies just for benefits, if you can’t afford children don’t have them!”

Also right wingers: “Not enough [white] people are having children! We are going to be outbred by [non-whites]!”

I have to wonder how far these idiots definition of "white" stretches.

Classic Aryan?
Irish?
Anglo-Saxon?
Mediterranean?
Caucasians?
Albinos?
Bad cases of vitiligo?

Would love to watch if one day a blond/blue-eyed person goes up to one and says "Hi my name is Mohammed." The alt-righter would probably implode from their reality malfunction.

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Z the IVth posted:

I have to wonder how far these idiots definition of "white" stretches.

Classic Aryan?
Irish?
Anglo-Saxon?
Mediterranean?
Caucasians?
Albinos?
Bad cases of vitiligo?

Would love to watch if one day a blond/blue-eyed person goes up to one and says "Hi my name is Mohammed." The alt-righter would probably implode from their reality malfunction.

Descendants of the Roman empire, the classical "Western" civilization.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Ah, Moroccans, Turks, and Jews.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

domhal posted:

It is. Although it's consumption, not participation, in my case, today's protests were a nice contrast.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2019/mar/15/best-placards-from-global-climate-strike
I’m not optimistic that this is going to trigger significant climate action but I am optimistic that the next generation is going to be so socialist and politically active that they’ll sneeringly look down on us for bitching about things online instead of smashing the state every weekend. The kids are awesome.

Maugrim posted:

This was the reaction one of the DiS parallel universe board guys had after coming to investigate UKMT. We were posting freaky neural-network-generated cat pics at the time and he thought they were images of animal abuse. I think ookiimarukochan's av and red text also freaked him out, which is probably fair if you don't know about the culture of buying avs for others.
I found this thread a long time before I started posting in it but I noped out because I got the impression that everyone here was just a sarcastic dickhead (which everyone obviously is but, like, the good kind).

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

TACD posted:

I’m not optimistic that this is going to trigger significant climate action but I am optimistic that the next generation is going to be so socialist and politically active that they’ll sneeringly look down on us for bitching about things online instead of smashing the state every weekend. The kids are awesome.

Look up what happened to the generation that spent the 60s and early 70s protesting against injustice once they actually hit the age to become politicians.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1106812341440516097?s=20

Yes it's probably an outlier and all but wow that's a huge swing.

Looking forward to Diane Abbott throwing this in Fiona Bruce's face.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1106840429260095488?s=19
https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1106626305481555968?s=19

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Look up what happened to the generation that spent the 60s and early 70s protesting against injustice once they actually hit the age to become politicians.
Luckily there’s no chance of the next generation becoming passively enriched through property ownership, capitalism’s endgame all but guarantees they’ll be poor, sick, renting or homeless, and environmentally threatened for their entire lives :waycool:

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Has the equalities commission come back with anything from their investigation into supposed Labour anti-semitism yet?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

bessantj posted:

Has the equalities commission come back with anything from their investigation into supposed Labour anti-semitism yet?

its a bit early

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
It's terrible when people from other countries settle in a place and replace the native population, says the guy from *checks notes* New Zealand

TACD posted:

I found this thread a long time before I started posting in it but I noped out because I got the impression that everyone here was just a sarcastic dickhead (which everyone obviously is but, like, the good kind).

I think I was the other way round. I'm pretty sure I started reading this thread because I got the impression that everyone here was just a sarcastic dickhead, and then by the time I realised they were broadly the good kind I had already been ensnared. (I too spent some time in my wild youth on 4chan, I can't tell if I left r9k while it was still just a haven for pseudointellectuals and not yet a full-blown friendzone-mysogyny festival or if it always was and I was just too clueless to notice it at the time)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Not So Fast posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1106812341440516097?s=20

Yes it's probably an outlier and all but wow that's a huge swing.

Looking forward to Diane Abbott throwing this in Fiona Bruce's face.

This is weirdly hopeful but also probably puts a severe dent in the hope for a general election any time soon.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/JasonJHunter/status/1106620118837219328

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Now time to Brexit from the WTO

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1106855472282382337

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Jose posted:

its a bit early

Is it? I thought they started at the beginning of Feb, must be getting it mixed up with something else.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1106836594856787969
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1106824871563194368

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
If he actually cared he'd start the march on his own and assume people would join him.

He should do that so when he's on the A1 in the dark two weeks from now...

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1106853338992308230?s=21

Huh

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

baka kaba posted:

In lighter news, why's Rarity got beefy Nick Clegg for an av???

Because Jacques Rougeau is a good All-American Boy :colbert:

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